Confirmed with Link: [TOR/OTT] Matt Murray (25% retention), a 3rd in 2023 and a 7th in 2024 for Future Considerations.

[kb]

Wait till campbell signs for 5 and Samsonov 3s

That's OK. Because I wouldn't have done 5x5 for Campbell with his history either. Samsonov was Mrazek level last season. So he's not any guarantee to be as good even as what the Leafs had last season.

 

[notbias]

Not saying Campbell did great...he played well enough for the Leafs to win the series...but when Murray is the upgrade, oh my goodness.

Not sure Murray is a downgrade, but not what I would have wanted.

 

[Apex Predator]

Look at the bright side -- we added draft picks, so at least Mess will be happy.

This is true we have assets to use at the trade deadline.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

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That was such a classic moment. Back when the WWE didn't suck.

 

[DarkKnight]

What in the actual f***

Another “undecided”.

 

[Marmoset]

1 for team dubas

People make arguments like this all the time when it comes to Dubas and the Leafs.

The problem isn't the 1.5M here. It's 1.5M on this deal, a bit too much for Marner, a bit too much for Tavares, etc. When you have quite a few players making a little too much, it adds up to a significant number for the whole roster.

 

[BackPassChampions]

I understand the word was either Leafs or Edmonton, but we really just don't know.

The rational part of my brain is thinking since the goalie market dried up quickly, there may have been other teams potentially interested and that may have driven the return down. Time was likely not on Dubas' side.

It was either Murray, or.... Woll/Krallgren/whoever else we could get. Options were limited.

 

[Knies iT]

I really don't like the risk as anything more than a backup or 1B situation, so this is disappointing. I'm willing to give him a chance before I freak out, and hopefully he proves us all wrong.

Personally it's less to do with the player, which is still not ideal, and more to do with the missed opportunity.

No faith in this GM's ability to negotiate a trade, contract, or supplement our stars with the right support players.

 

[hockeywiz542]

What we know about Matt Murray trade to Maple Leafs from Senators

Two-time Stanley Cup winner Matt Murray has been traded from the Ottawa Senators o the Maple Leafs. Here's what we know.

theathletic.com

Why did Leafs make this move now?

As the goalie carousel continues this offseason, the Leafs likely didn’t want to be left without someone between the pipes as free agency approaches and unrestricted free agents are left to choose their destinations for the future. That likely led to at least some of the urgency behind the deal from Toronto’s part.

Murray hasn’t exactly lived up to his $6.25-million cap hit the last two seasons, posting an .893 save percentage through 27 games in 2020-21 and a .906 save percentage through 20 games in 2021-22. But given that there’s a familiarity there with Murray and Sheldon Keefe, Leafs head coach, and Kyle Dubas, Leafs general manager, from their time together with the Soo Greyhounds in the OHL, the Leafs probably felt confident enough to make this deal and hope Murray can bounce back in 2022-23.

Is Murray the answer to Leafs’ No. 1 goalie search?

That remains to be seen. It’s entirely possible the Leafs sign another goalie who will take the lion’s share of starts in 2022-23 once free agency opens on Wednesday. But a true tandem also feels likely, and that wouldn’t leave Murray as a clear cut No. 1. The Leafs probably wanted former goalie Petr Mrazek to play more than the 20 games he did last season, for example, and have a tandem last season. Rolling out a tandem of goalies throughout the regular season could ensure that the Leafs have two goalies who are largely rested as the playoffs approach next spring.

We’ll see what happens over the coming days and weeks. The Leafs could very well have their own data that suggests Murray can handle the bulk of the starts, but given what we’ve seen him from recently, relying solely on Murray as a No. 1 goalie feels like at the very least a risky proposition for a Leafs team that wants to win a Stanley Cup.

How does this move impact the Leafs cap?

Obviously getting Murray at 50 percent of his salary would have improved the Leafs outlook for the cap this season.

Perhaps he will have a strong two seasons with the Leafs, but given his recent performances, it’s fair to wonder if Murray will live up to the a $4.68 million cap hit he’ll have through 2024 with the Leafs.

 

[paulhiggins]

This week has been tough being a Leafs fan and a Rogers subscriber. LOL

At least the Leafs have an off-season for the pain to go away. Rogers is painful all year around.

 

[keonsbitterness]

Dekes For Days is in the fetal position. That’s a tough turd to shine.

His response coming through shortly.........

Leafs just played in the conference final.

 

[rocketman588]

That's OK. Because I wouldn't have done 5x5 for Campbell with his history either. Samsonov was Mrazek level last season. So he's not any guarantee to be as good even as what the Leafs had last season.

Not that these are perfect solutions but vanachek is probably cheaper then 4.6 and husso was 4.75x3 as well

 

[fahad203]

Funny you say picks mean nothing with all the wailing during the draft about the lack of picks.

I didn't wail on about lack of picks. Nor will I

3rd and 7th can be easily recovered during the season.

Unless it was a 1st or a 2nd, any other draft picks at this stage of the season is just inexusable

 

[thewave]

Look on the bright side. It's just another year of "cost controlled" Matthews Marner Nylander, we have plenty of those years left right. Roll them dice Dubas bb! Roll them dice! Riverboat gambler GM at the helm bb all in all the way! We're living large now.

 

[LastOne2100]

People make arguments like this all the time when it comes to Dubas and the Leafs.

The problem isn't the 1.5M here. It's 1.5M on this deal, a bit too much for Marner, a bit too much for Tavares, etc. When you have quite a few players making a little too much, it adds up to a significant number for the whole roster.

It's insane how much the Toronto media will do mental gymnastics to act like Dubas is amazing.

That argument is truly bad faith. 1.5M goes a long way as we have proven quite a few times in the last couple of seasons.

f***, you want give up the 1.5M, at least get something better back?!

 

[Anthrax442]

I'm experiencing l'appel du vide

 

[Superstar]

Not sure Murray is a downgrade, but not what I would have wanted.

25% salary retention is not enough considering Murray's contract is backloaded. It's $4.69 million for a hope and a has-been.

 

[MarMarSab3]

This is very bad

 

[ULF_55]

12 months from now? I hope its way less than that and a new GM is talking about what hes looking for going into Free Agent Frenzy

I can't agree with you there.
I hope to have a Cup hangover in less than that.
Who is the last Cup winning keeper they have had?

 

[TheGreatOne11]

This is true we have assets to use at the trade deadline.

Hopefully they do terrible and its a very high third next year which is almost a late 2nd in a very deep draft.

But it frustrating we didn't get more, should have been a 2nd included they got out from a trainwreck of a contract and barely gave anything up.

Well done Ottawa lol

 

[BackPassChampions]

This is very bad

We get it, you've said this three times now.

 

[Subway Schenn]

1 for team dubas

1.5M extra for a big maybe hurts a lot when we have 4 players making 40M and consuming the majority of the cap.

 

[MarMarSab3]

We get it, you've said this three times now.

I'm in shock, had much more faith in Dubas

 

[Stephen]

It's insane how much the Toronto media will do mental gymnastics to act like Dubas is amazing.

That argument is truly bad faith. 1.5M goes a long way as we have proven quite a few times in the last couple of seasons.

The Behind the Music/40 For 40 for the Kyle Dubas Era is going to be something epic.

 

[rocketman588]

The sens might get a third back for Connor Brown...