Prairie Habs
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Proposal: Tor <---> mtl
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That was immediately followed by :
That tickled my funny bone...
Especially with that avatar.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have here a prime specimen of a keyboard warrior.
Horrible pickups/signings/trades: Byron, Mitchell, Radulov, Petry, Weber, Danault.
The beat goes on...
Well said. Bozak has been very important in the development of Marner. Leafs aren't deep at centre, and Bozak needed this year. Maybe next year at TDL he's available.
Regarding rebuilding, yes the Leafs might get some long term value from a trade like this, but it's still important to building a winning team (maybe 20th overall) this year and maybe a playoff in the spring 2018, then endless...trading for the future.
What does his draft rank 9 years ago have to do with his present value ?
See how ridiculous that reads ? (And yes, I used black)
Idk nor do I care. Maybe you should read the OP "Bozak + Hunwick for capdump + 2nd".
Bozak = 2nd, Hunwick isnt a capdump... So how does that work?
Sure.
I just dont think 1.2M justifies being called a capdump, especially when you could save 900 (or 925k) by sending him to the AHL
Brock Radunske
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Haha you clearly don't understand my point.
What does his draft rank 9 years ago have to do with his present value ?
See how ridiculous that reads ? (And yes, I used black)
Halla
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Sure.
I just dont think 1.2M justifies being called a capdump, especially when you could save 900 (or 925k) by sending him to the AHL
they are well know leaf trolls. no point even going back and forth.
they think JVR is wroth a 2nd, sergachev> any of the big leafs 3 etc.
I still don't know how a 1.2 mil guy is a cap dump. 250k hit if buried...lol
Nikita Scherbak ($863,333)
David Descharnais ($3,500,000)
Alexei Emelin ($4,100,000)
Noah Juulsen ($894,167)
1st 2017
2nd 2018
Salary Total: $9.35m
Tyler Bozak ($4,200,000)
JVR ($4,250,000)
Matt Hunwick ($1,200,000) or Jhonas Enroth (replace montoya
Salary Total: $9,65m
Summary:
I think this package like this.
JVR = Scherbak, Juulsen & 1st + cap dump
Bozak & Hunwick = Cap Dump & 2nd 2018
Why would TML do this ?
Continue the rebuild and get IMO good prices on both players who are not considered buildin blocks in the future. Might have to ask a lil more from mtl but still i would like it. Only real problem in it is 49/50 contracts atm ´but we could throw in a ahl'er. 1st isnt gonna be to high, but first is a first and I might be in a minority here, but i think we (tml) are far away from ready with the painful part of the rebuild.
This would make us weaker no doubt but would give us much needed tools in the future with Juulsen and Scherbak and a first and a second. Of course I wouldnt take Eme or DD but its a must take situation to get other parts.
Why would MTL do this:
Cuz they are in a "win now" mode. They would get a nice upgrade to their scorin with jvr for 2yrs and a very good c to their second or third line with a marvellous faceoff skills. Both are worth the salaries easily and JVR is a very good contract. Hunwick to balance the salaries. I think with those names ya would have better chance to fight for the cup.
**If I'm way outta the line with values I apologize**
And NOOOOW ITS TIIIIIMMMMMEEEEE TO Bash this to the ground
You are way out of line!!!
Look if we are giving up JVR and Bozak then Sergachev is coming back to us its as simple as that. While Emelin is certainly better than hunwick if I am not mistaken he has another year at a pretty bad cap hit which means he gets exposed and likely picked up by LV.
As for the picks its basically second and a third rounders because with JVR and Bozak you have yourself a likely SC champion. Yes they will be officially a first and second but because of their position not.
Juulsen is a concussion away from being a memory and Scherbak is meh at best, Kappenen has more potential.
Please don't even get me started with Diamond Dave.
Sorry bud this proposal is terrible, its starts with Sergachev and likely your 2017 first.
Actually, if Bozak, who has never hit 50 points once in a season is a "career 50 puts centre", then Desharnais must be a career 60 points centre. We have zero use for BoZak. Danault can do what Bozak does, and is better defensively.
Sending Emelin, who has started playing the way he was before the Lucic injury, away to pick up a third line centre with defensive issues when we have a coach who will not play guys with defensive issues unless they are named Desharnais. Bozak adds NOTHING of any significance to our team that makes him worth a 4.2 million dollar cap hit.
DD and a 3rd for Bozak and a 4th is still not worth it because Bozak has the higher cap hit without significantly doing anything to improve our team. DD is a cheaper placeholder, there is no need to pay to get another placeholder who is more expensive.
A Leafs fan called Bozak a placeholder because, AT BEST, that is exactly what he is. We do not need that type of player when we have internal options like Danault or even bloody Desharnais. Therrien would lose his temper with Bozak pretty quickly due to his defensive deficiencies and we would have a 4.2 million dollar cap hit sitting on the bench instead of a 3.5 million dollar one AND we would have lost 2 good draft picks for the privilege. THAT is your "REALITY". I would rather go out and overpay for bloody Hanzal than for Bozak, and a 2nd + 3rd for Bozak is a serious overpay.
For the sake of "reality", if Bozak is the best we can get for a 2nd and 3rd, give Danault, McCarron or De La Rose the shot they truly need or deserve (depending upon the player in question) to do what Bozak currently does. Bozak is not getting his "career 50 points" playing 3rd line minutes for our team. He got all of those "career 50 points seasons" playing top 6 minutes, something he would not get with Galchenyuk and Plekanec already occupying those positions on our team AND when you realize he is a defensive liability that Therrien would hate it makes this "reality" even worse!!!!
No thanks is as polite as reality allows me to get.
hockeyheadlines
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Sergachev would not be included in any talks, period. So we can move on. It's more than unlikely these two teams trade anything except maybe recipes.
Don't expect any bold moves from Bergevin at this time of the year either.
Don't expect any bold moves from Bergevin at this time of the year either.
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JVR is our (nation's) favourite trading chip, and hence is often overvalued in these (nation's) trade proposals.
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