Proposal: TOR and STL or BOS

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Does it work if we take back Timmins and Reaves?

Yes

 

[stl76]

Blues fans have been awesome in advising why it doesn't work in a respectful way, I totally understand why the proposal doesn't meet the needs for the Blues at this time.

Appreciate the post, hopefully other Blues fans read this before blasting you for the OP haha

 

[StlBigFly]

imo the blues could get a okay prospect, pick 25-50 or so for a few different guys, maybe even “get a mammoth return” whatever that means, and get a somewhat better than the usual prospect that is traded this time of year if they traded Schenn, got creative with some other mid tier pieces. Maybe binnington can nab a late first or second plus prospect. Maybe Kyrou could secure a bit more.

So if we wanted that - that being a bunch of good stuff that add up to a fair value - as the return we’d probably go that route. Before we’d take calls on Parayko we’d probably find what we needed.

Imo the way Parayko moves is a hockey trade or an offer that includes one very high pedigree pick or piece. We would use him in a deal to get the more individually valuable return, if that’s what we were after, since he’s the only one that would probably be able to command it. A top 5 pick, something with top 6 or top 4 high potential, a hockey trade of an equivalent bonafide center or defenseman. We wouldn’t move Parayko I don’t believe for a pile of stuff that does equal one Parayko. He’s too established for that.

 

[bearcountry17]

The problem is he hasn't been rock solid defensively for at least 2 seasons. So he provides 0 offense and hit or miss defense, without much physicality these days.

Yup, that's Justin Holl

Over the last 3 seasons Carlo has the 6th best on ice GF% at 5 on 5 for defensemen who have played at least 82 games over that time span while having less offensive zone starts than any defender in the league. He's been bad this year, like the whole team, but just last year he was 15th(minimum 41 GP) while again leading the league in defensive zone start percentage. So you're straight up wrong saying he hasn't been rock solid the last two years.

 

[finnishflash13]

I don't know what direction your team is going in, is it a retool or sell job? A lot of your roster players have been in rumors so I am not sure if it's a futures based kind of package or something more current you would like?

I believe Hanifin was a 1st and a 3rd but he was a pending UFA so I upped it to a 2nd as the primary assets.

If you're just re-tooling and hoping to quickly be competitive again than yea, I get why the 1st and 2nd weren't as appealing.

rumors don't mean shit. the "insiders" need fodder this time of year. the entire blues roster was almost included in TSN's latest trade board. nonsensical.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

I would do that deal: 1st, 2nd and Robertson for Carlo.

...the Habs offer Calgary's 1st 2025, Pitt 2nd 2025 and Joshua Roy...throw in Mike Matheson if they subtract the 2nd...

 

[biturbo19]

I would do that deal: 1st, 2nd and Robertson for Carlo.

I'm pretty sure Boston could do better than this for Carlo. At the very least, i think they could pry a better 1st or a comparable very good prospect away...even if that means shopping him to a bubble team, or even a non-playoff team, since he's got term remaining.

Heck, Buffalo immediately jumps to mind as a team that has all sorts of picks and prospects to offer for a guy with pretty much exactly Carlo's profile. But i think a lot of other teams would be interested and able to beat TOR 2026 1st, a 2nd, and Robertson who is pretty much just a throw-in tweener who can't stay healthy at this point.

 

[GCK]

I think Toronto could get Parayko for Knies + Cowan with a bunch of dumps to make salary work.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

I think Toronto could get Parayko for Knies + Cowan with a bunch of dumps to make salary work.

 

[BurnsWhenIPee]

Leafs have a need at RD

Would St.Louis or Boston (fans) consider...

2025 2nd
2026 1st
Domi ($ equalizer)

Would be willing to include Robertson, Timmins and/or Dewar if either team had interest.

For either Parayko or Carlo? No retention required.

Thanks in advance for the productive feedback =)

Parayko is significantly better than Carlo. Not the same tier.

 

[bruins4thecup65]

Carlo will fetch a 1rst round pick + +

 

[Mike Liut]

I’m not sure Knies + 1st gets you Parayko

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

I’m not sure Knies + 1st gets you Parayko

...it doesn't...

 

[GCK]

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I am not sure what team you support.