Value of: Top-9 forward (LW) to Anaheim

[Ducks in a row]

Still don't know how we got Maroon with salary retained for a 4th and Gernat. He's pretty much the ideal 3LW. And seems like an unreal teammate.

BM was a idiot that is how.

 

[kk87]

JVR + mid level prospect + 2nd for Montour + Theodore + Stoner? Obviously two high quality prospects but you're getting back a top line LW on a great contract, plus a few other solid pieces, and we're taking on a cap dump.

 

[dracom]

BM was a idiot that is how.

Not like we needed that 1.5 million in cap space or anything...

 

[dracom]

JVR + mid level prospect + 2nd for Montour + Theodore + Stoner? Obviously two high quality prospects but you're getting back a top line LW on a great contract, plus a few other solid pieces, and we're taking on a cap dump.

Cap doesn't work for us I believe, even with Stoner going the other way. Also not giving up both Theo and Montour when the main piece is player we would lose in two years anyways.

 

[eternalbedhead]

JVR + mid level prospect + 2nd for Montour + Theodore + Stoner? Obviously two high quality prospects but you're getting back a top line LW on a great contract, plus a few other solid pieces, and we're taking on a cap dump.

JVR has only two years left on his contract and whether or not he's a top line LW is debatable. Ducks say no.


As for the thread, would any teams be willing to dangle a 25, 26, or 27-year old 3rd liner for Marcus Pettersson?

 

[Ducks in a row]

JVR + mid level prospect + 2nd for Montour + Theodore + Stoner? Obviously two high quality prospects but you're getting back a top line LW on a great contract, plus a few other solid pieces, and we're taking on a cap dump.

We are not trading Montour and Theodore messing up our blueline pool especially for a forward who needs protecting and is sign for 1 year after being protected not even with us getting rid of Stoner changes anything.

 

[Rebels57]

Matt Read (2 years left @ $3.625) - can play LW or RW



Clayton Stoner (2 years left @ $3.25)
2017 2nd round pick*

Flyers then demote Andrew MacDonald to the Interational Rolley Hockey League.

*This pick is part of a the Andersen trade to Toronto. Toronto would receive this pick "Should Anaheim trade Bernier to a team that starts him in half of its playoff games next spring and wins the Stanley Cup, Toronto receives the Ducks’ second-round pick." Can this pick be traded?

 

[xxreact9]

JVR has only two years left on his contract and whether or not he's a top line LW is debatable. Ducks say no.


As for the thread, would any teams be willing to dangle a 25, 26, or 27-year old 3rd liner for Marcus Pettersson?

This was half the point of the thread and honestly the more realistic half.

A guy like Komarov is perfect. He only has 2 years left on his deal and leafs would get another real good D prospect join zaitsev and dermott. Not a blue chip, but a guy that will eventually find his way as a quality 3/4.

Also wouldn't mind exploring Theodore Montour or Larsson for an equivalent Forward prospect. There's just too many good D on this team. Those 3 can't stay in the AHL much longer and Bieksas contract isn't going anywhere. Larsson is wisest to keep as he buys us the most time.

 

[kk87]

This was half the point of the thread and honestly the more realistic half.

A guy like Komarov is perfect. He only has 2 years left on his deal and leafs would get another real good D prospect join zaitsev and dermott. Not a blue chip, but a guy that will eventually find his way as a quality 3/4.

Also wouldn't mind exploring Theodore Montour or Larsson for an equivalent Forward prospect. There's just too many good D on this team. Those 3 can't stay in the AHL much longer and Bieksas contract isn't going anywhere. Larsson is wisest to keep as he buys us the most time.

How about something like Komarov and Kapanen for Montour or Theodore? Not exactly sure how highly you value those two dmen, but it seems like they could drastically improve our d core in the near future.

 

[dracom]

How about something like Komarov and Kapanen for Montour or Theodore? Not exactly sure how highly you value those two dmen, but it seems like they could drastically improve our d core in the near future.

Not sure how we have space for Komarov. Wouldn't be opposed to a deal around Montour for one of Toronto's scoring winger prospects.

 

[ginovegas]

ANdrigheto and Carr both make under 1 million and probably could be had

 

[McDonald19]

Theodore and Larsson are not available for a third line wing.

Montour maybe...

 

[eternalbedhead]

This was half the point of the thread and honestly the more realistic half.

A guy like Komarov is perfect. He only has 2 years left on his deal and leafs would get another real good D prospect join zaitsev and dermott. Not a blue chip, but a guy that will eventually find his way as a quality 3/4.

Also wouldn't mind exploring Theodore Montour or Larsson for an equivalent Forward prospect. There's just too many good D on this team. Those 3 can't stay in the AHL much longer and Bieksas contract isn't going anywhere. Larsson is wisest to keep as he buys us the most time.

I'd love Komarov on the team, but Stoner would need to be going the other way since we're pressed up against the cap as is.


Would Toronto be opposed to this? I know Stoner to Toronto has been beaten to death, but what do Toronto fans say to this?


TOR gets:
Marcus Pettersson
Clayton Stoner (2 years left at 3.25M)
2017 2nd round pick
2017 3rd round pick
ANA gets:
Leo Komarov (2 years left at 2.95M)
2017 4th round pick

 

[Pennaduck]

Matt Read (2 years left @ $3.625) - can play LW or RW



Clayton Stoner (2 years left @ $3.25)
2017 2nd round pick*

Flyers then demote Andrew MacDonald to the Interational Rolley Hockey League.

*This pick is part of a the Andersen trade to Toronto. Toronto would receive this pick "Should Anaheim trade Bernier to a team that starts him in half of its playoff games next spring and wins the Stanley Cup, Toronto receives the Ducks’ second-round pick." Can this pick be traded?

I'd do it if we could make it work cap-wise. I like Read a lot.

 

[Basilisk]

Dwight King for a 2nd round pick!

...or...

Teddy Purcell for a 3rd round pick!

...or...

Jordan Nolan for a 4th round pick!

 

[bogostick]

Dano for theo + stoner?

 

[gabeliscious]

I'd love Komarov on the team, but Stoner would need to be going the other way since we're pressed up against the cap as is.


Would Toronto be opposed to this? I know Stoner to Toronto has been beaten to death, but what do Toronto fans say to this?


TOR gets:
Marcus Pettersson
Clayton Stoner (2 years left at 3.25M)
2017 2nd round pick
2017 3rd round pick
ANA gets:
Leo Komarov (2 years left at 2.95M)
2017 4th round pick

dont see toronto making that deal.

if you are looking for a 3rd line winger on the cheap leafs could offer you holland or michalek with 50% retention. we also have leivo who is nhl ready as well.

any interest in leivo and hunwick for stoner 50% retained and montour

 

[Exit Dose]

Dano for theo + stoner?

Nope.

 

[Exit Dose]

dont see toronto making that deal.

if you are looking for a 3rd line winger on the cheap leafs could offer you holland or michalek with 50% retention. we also have leivo who is nhl ready as well.

any interest in leivo and hunwick for stoner 50% retained and montour

Retain on Stoner AND take back Hunwick. What's the appeal of this supposed to be?

 

[gabeliscious]

Retain on Stoner AND take back Hunwick. What's the appeal of this supposed to be?

imo leivo and montour are closish in value in my opinon.

hunwick at $1.2 million for the rest of the season can be waived and ducks would clear most of the cap hit.

stoner at 50% is still a $1.6 million cap hit for this season and next season.

stoner at 50% and hunwick balance each other out for this season. next season leafs get a bit better of a prospect in exchange for taking on the extra cap hit. i think Toronto would be fine if ducks retained a bit less, maybe 25-30%? next season we should have ample cap space.

 

[lindholmie]

imo leivo and montour are closish in value in my opinon.

hunwick at $1.2 million for the rest of the season can be waived and ducks would clear most of the cap hit.

stoner at 50% is still a $1.6 million cap hit for this season and next season.

stoner at 50% and hunwick balance each other out for this season. next season leafs get a bit better of a prospect in exchange for taking on the extra cap hit. i think Toronto would be fine if ducks retained a bit less, maybe 25-30%? next season we should have ample cap space.

lol theyre not close

 

[Rebels57]

I'd do it if we could make it work cap-wise. I like Read a lot.

Great than it's settled!

The Flyers do this because with Michael Raffl coming back off of IR soon, they will be forced to play a top 9 calibre forward on the 4th line, and they need a small shake-up on defense thanks to the ABYSMAL play of Andrew MacDonald. He's been so bad a fan started a GoFundMe page to buy-out his contract after last nights game.

Line 1: Schenn - Giroux - Simmonds
Line 2: Konecny - Couturier - Voracek
Line 3: Raffl/Read - Cousins - Weise
Line 4: Raffl/Read - Gordon - Bellemare/Lyubimov

VandeVelde scratched

As you can see, they can certainly afford to move Read and he would improve Anaheims bottom 6. The only issue for Anaheim, I would guess, is that it doesn't really give them any cap relief and if Despres is ready to come back they are then forced to make another trade.

 

[TML1967]

I'd love Komarov on the team, but Stoner would need to be going the other way since we're pressed up against the cap as is.

Would Toronto be opposed to this? I know Stoner to Toronto has been beaten to death, but what do Toronto fans say to this?

TOR gets:
Marcus Pettersson
Clayton Stoner (2 years left at 3.25M)
2017 2nd round pick
2017 3rd round pick
ANA gets:
Leo Komarov (2 years left at 2.95M)
2017 4th round pick

JVR + mid level prospect + 2nd for Montour + Theodore + Stoner? Obviously two high quality prospects but you're getting back a top line LW on a great contract, plus a few other solid pieces, and we're taking on a cap dump.

I think these deals are off in value a bit, but like the general idea behind them.

What if the trade was JVR@25% retained + Kapanen for Montour+Pettersson+Stoner?
JVR has some good value on a fair deal, and Kapanen is a good prospect who's tearing up the AHL as a 20 year old.

 

[xxreact9]

How about something like Komarov and Kapanen for Montour or Theodore? Not exactly sure how highly you value those two dmen, but it seems like they could drastically improve our d core in the near future.

I like that a lot as a fan of both teams, other than Ducks not being able to afford the cap hit. They can take on 1.5ish million with Stoner sent to AHL.

Anything larger and Stoner has to be moved or included which complicates it.

 

[xxreact9]

I think these deals are off in value a bit, but like the general idea behind them.

What if the trade was JVR@25% retained + Kapanen for Montour+Pettersson+Stoner?
JVR has some good value on a fair deal, and Kapanen is a good prospect who's tearing up the AHL as a 20 year old.

I'd accept as a ducks fan rather easily. Stoner's negative value (suggested to cost roughly two 2nds) isn't far off from Pettersson's actual value. I think TML side would want Montour swapped with Theodore. His 2-way game has a lot more upside and his ceiling is higher than any of their other prospects.

If it's JVR@25% + Kapanen for Theo + Pettersson + Stoner I'd still be pretty interested from Duck POV. Their blueline + prospect pool would still be elite minus those two both short and long term, they add a much needed quality fwd prospect and JVR to shoot for the cup for 2 years. Toronto gets a legit blue-chip D prospect, another quality D prospect and a hard nosed guy that can play 3rd pair well this year.

Only issue I have from TML side is they'd have a rather logjam on the back-end body wise. Carrick/Corrado would be sent down, Hunwick idk. They could roll with:

Rielly Zaitsev
Theodore Marincin
Gardiner Polak
Stoner #7.


Whether its JVR, Komarov, etc. there's a trade here that can help both sides a lot. TML with Bozak, Kadri, Matthews, Marner, Nylander, have enough firepower to part with a fwd or two (especially soon to be UFAs) to address a major need in a big way.