AlfiesHair
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- Jul 7, 2020
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Hey everyone.
After completing my own personal top 200 hockey players of all time (men) I have decided to try my best at making a preliminary top 50 women's hockey players of all time.
Admittedly my list is FAR from perfect. Way too much reliance on stat/award collecting with little reading (partially due to lack of written sources to be honest) and too little video watching. I also have no idea how to judge the defensive play of these players as there is so little written and way too much video for one man to watch.
That being said, I thought I would post my top 25 of my list here to be torn apart by fans who know women's hockey better than I. After 25 I get less and less confident in my rankings but I would be happy to post it if it would generate more discussion.
Anyways, enough with the rambling, here it goes along with some of my notes
1. Hayley Wickenheiser - 3x MVP (2x Oly. 1x WC), 4x best forward, 9x all star, 13 top 10 points appearances (1st, led three times), always upped her game in the Olympics, longtime captain, HHOF
2. Jenni Hiirikoski - 1x WC MVP, 9x best defender (1st), 7x all star, 4x defense point leader, 5 Finnish MVPs and 6 Finnish best D awards
3. Cammi Granato - 4x tournament leader in points (1st-tied), 9 top 10 points appearances, great NCAA career, longtime captain, HHOF
4. Angela Ruggiero - 6x best defender, 5x defense point leader, amazing NCAA (1x MVP) and amateur/pro career, HHOF
5. Jayna Hefford - 2x best forward, 3x all star, 10 top 10 points appearances (no leads or MVPs though), led domestic league in points 7 times, CWHL MVP trophy was named after her, HHOF
6. Angela James - one of the first great female superstars, apparently a 6x league MVP, power forward, innovator, HHOF
7. Marie-Philip Poulin - 1x WC MVP and 3x CWHL MVP, 8 top 10 points appearances, insanely clutch (3 golden goals)
8. Brianna Decker - 1x WC MVP, 2x PHF MVP, 1x NCAA MVP, 6 top 3 points appearances
9. Riikka Sallinen (Riikka Nieminen) - 3x international point leader, 9 top 10 points appearances (most for non NA player), dominant Finnish career, crazy longevity, Finnish league MVP trophy named after her, HHOF
10. Jennifer Botterill - 2x WC MVP, 2x NCAA MVP, slightly inconsistent international career but VERY impressive overall
11. Hilary Knight - 2x WC MVP, 1x CWHL MVP, 4x tournament leader in points (1st-tied), points machine
12. Florence Schelling - 8 top 3 SV% appearances (1st), 1x Oly. MVP, 2x best goaltender, especially impressive since she plays for Switzerland
13. Noora Raty - 1x WC MVP, 5x best goaltender (1st), a lot of league awards in the Finnish league, CWHL, and NCAA
14. Geraldine Heaney - 2x best defender, 3x defense point leader, led league in points by a defender 9 times, HHOF
15. Danielle Goyette - 5 top 3 points appearances, great longevity but little available domestic stats, HHOF
16. Krissy Wendell-Pohl - 2x WC MVP, 1x NCAA MVP, slightly short career though
17. Natalie Darwitz - 6 top 5 points appearances, 5x all star, great NCAA career, also short career
18. Monique Lamoureux-Morando - fantastic multi-positional player, 4x all star (1x forward, 3x defense), scoring threat for both positions
19. Kim St-Pierre - 3x SV% leader and 3x best goaltender, sort of a lack of domestic play to analyze, HHOF
20. Shannon Szabados - 3x SV% leader and 2x best goaltender, played almost her whole career in men's leagues so she is hard to analyze too
21. Michelle Karvinen - 6 top 10 points appearances (2nd best for a non NA player, led once), extremely dominant in weaker Euro leagues (5x points leader and 8x PPG leader)
22. Gunilla Andersson Stampes - 7 top 5 defensive points appearances (VERY good for someone who plays for Sweden), only a 1x all star and it's pretty hard to find her domestic league records
23. Caroline Ouellette - 9 top 10 points appearances, amazing longevity in domestic leagues as well but smaller peak/prime, reminds me of a slightly better (relatively) Alex Delvecchio
24. Paivi Virta (Paivi Halonen) - first Finnish superstar, very little international play but she dominated her league as a defender (8x defense point leader, 17x in the top 3)
25. Jenny Schmidgall-Potter - 8 top 10 points appearances (led once), 2x all star, very good NCAA and domestic league career
Some notes and criticisms I have for my own list:
I have trouble with pairing goaltenders it seems and I only have 5.5 defenders on this list.
My list seems to treat Euro players with a bit more prestige than most other NA sources I have found online, maybe I am missing something or maybe it's media bias (maybe I'm missing something that others see to discount Hiirikoski's accomplishments for example).
Some players I expected to be on here before doing research are not on here (ex. Kendall Coyne-Schofield #27, Manon Rheaume #30, Cassie Campbell-Pascall #50+. . . I must be missing something about her or maybe her broadcasting career has upped her popularity).
International awards were inconsistently given out in the 90s, so I may be slightly overlooking players from that era due to this.
If I had to tier this list it would go something like: 1, 2-5, 6-9, 10-15, 16-21, 22-25
Please roast my list! I need opinions!
After completing my own personal top 200 hockey players of all time (men) I have decided to try my best at making a preliminary top 50 women's hockey players of all time.
Admittedly my list is FAR from perfect. Way too much reliance on stat/award collecting with little reading (partially due to lack of written sources to be honest) and too little video watching. I also have no idea how to judge the defensive play of these players as there is so little written and way too much video for one man to watch.
That being said, I thought I would post my top 25 of my list here to be torn apart by fans who know women's hockey better than I. After 25 I get less and less confident in my rankings but I would be happy to post it if it would generate more discussion.
Anyways, enough with the rambling, here it goes along with some of my notes
1. Hayley Wickenheiser - 3x MVP (2x Oly. 1x WC), 4x best forward, 9x all star, 13 top 10 points appearances (1st, led three times), always upped her game in the Olympics, longtime captain, HHOF
2. Jenni Hiirikoski - 1x WC MVP, 9x best defender (1st), 7x all star, 4x defense point leader, 5 Finnish MVPs and 6 Finnish best D awards
3. Cammi Granato - 4x tournament leader in points (1st-tied), 9 top 10 points appearances, great NCAA career, longtime captain, HHOF
4. Angela Ruggiero - 6x best defender, 5x defense point leader, amazing NCAA (1x MVP) and amateur/pro career, HHOF
5. Jayna Hefford - 2x best forward, 3x all star, 10 top 10 points appearances (no leads or MVPs though), led domestic league in points 7 times, CWHL MVP trophy was named after her, HHOF
6. Angela James - one of the first great female superstars, apparently a 6x league MVP, power forward, innovator, HHOF
7. Marie-Philip Poulin - 1x WC MVP and 3x CWHL MVP, 8 top 10 points appearances, insanely clutch (3 golden goals)
8. Brianna Decker - 1x WC MVP, 2x PHF MVP, 1x NCAA MVP, 6 top 3 points appearances
9. Riikka Sallinen (Riikka Nieminen) - 3x international point leader, 9 top 10 points appearances (most for non NA player), dominant Finnish career, crazy longevity, Finnish league MVP trophy named after her, HHOF
10. Jennifer Botterill - 2x WC MVP, 2x NCAA MVP, slightly inconsistent international career but VERY impressive overall
11. Hilary Knight - 2x WC MVP, 1x CWHL MVP, 4x tournament leader in points (1st-tied), points machine
12. Florence Schelling - 8 top 3 SV% appearances (1st), 1x Oly. MVP, 2x best goaltender, especially impressive since she plays for Switzerland
13. Noora Raty - 1x WC MVP, 5x best goaltender (1st), a lot of league awards in the Finnish league, CWHL, and NCAA
14. Geraldine Heaney - 2x best defender, 3x defense point leader, led league in points by a defender 9 times, HHOF
15. Danielle Goyette - 5 top 3 points appearances, great longevity but little available domestic stats, HHOF
16. Krissy Wendell-Pohl - 2x WC MVP, 1x NCAA MVP, slightly short career though
17. Natalie Darwitz - 6 top 5 points appearances, 5x all star, great NCAA career, also short career
18. Monique Lamoureux-Morando - fantastic multi-positional player, 4x all star (1x forward, 3x defense), scoring threat for both positions
19. Kim St-Pierre - 3x SV% leader and 3x best goaltender, sort of a lack of domestic play to analyze, HHOF
20. Shannon Szabados - 3x SV% leader and 2x best goaltender, played almost her whole career in men's leagues so she is hard to analyze too
21. Michelle Karvinen - 6 top 10 points appearances (2nd best for a non NA player, led once), extremely dominant in weaker Euro leagues (5x points leader and 8x PPG leader)
22. Gunilla Andersson Stampes - 7 top 5 defensive points appearances (VERY good for someone who plays for Sweden), only a 1x all star and it's pretty hard to find her domestic league records
23. Caroline Ouellette - 9 top 10 points appearances, amazing longevity in domestic leagues as well but smaller peak/prime, reminds me of a slightly better (relatively) Alex Delvecchio
24. Paivi Virta (Paivi Halonen) - first Finnish superstar, very little international play but she dominated her league as a defender (8x defense point leader, 17x in the top 3)
25. Jenny Schmidgall-Potter - 8 top 10 points appearances (led once), 2x all star, very good NCAA and domestic league career
Some notes and criticisms I have for my own list:
I have trouble with pairing goaltenders it seems and I only have 5.5 defenders on this list.
My list seems to treat Euro players with a bit more prestige than most other NA sources I have found online, maybe I am missing something or maybe it's media bias (maybe I'm missing something that others see to discount Hiirikoski's accomplishments for example).
Some players I expected to be on here before doing research are not on here (ex. Kendall Coyne-Schofield #27, Manon Rheaume #30, Cassie Campbell-Pascall #50+. . . I must be missing something about her or maybe her broadcasting career has upped her popularity).
International awards were inconsistently given out in the 90s, so I may be slightly overlooking players from that era due to this.
If I had to tier this list it would go something like: 1, 2-5, 6-9, 10-15, 16-21, 22-25
Please roast my list! I need opinions!
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