Waived: Tony DeAngelo

[NYSPORTS]

No.

The real and only story is that ADA wore out his welcome, here. It's happened to him, before.

It's a pattern, not an isolated incident.

You're the one trying to come up with an alternative explanation that you find comforting.

6 games into a new contract is more a front office screwup than an ADA pattern as the front office resigned him and put ADA on waiver 6 games into a new contract.

Never mind the growing list of questions surrounding this whole team (Lias and Krav leaving Hartford, Gauthier being benched, Smith benched, ADA changing positions, two goalies dressing around Hank while his sits the bench, non-stop line changes, lapses and routine mistakes and now the record.)

Yeah, let’s look at your perception of the real story for your own comfort. Pass

 

[Chaels Arms]

Are you denying that something caused him to be put on waivers? Or just this particular explanation?

Nope, I believe there must have been some precipitating event recently that caused him to be waived. I'm just not ready to etch into stone "DeAngelo fought Georgiev after the game" as that reason.

In the past half hour I've gotten texts from Rangers fans who are my friends telling me they have it on "good authority" that Tony fought Kreider, Georgiev, Barbara Streisand and that Lemieux is getting waived by the end of today.

It's all noise.

 

[IDvsEGO]

I will say, without me being vehemently of any opinion, that when it comes to Quinn as a “development” coach:

Kakko still looks bad. Better, some games, than most of last year, but still disappointing for a 2OA sophomore.

Lafreniere looks like Kakko did last year, albeit with better offensive instincts to get in the right places and be a bit more noticeable.

Chytil is in year three (plus 9 games 4 years ago) and while he had 2 really strong games before getting hurt, that sample size isn’t big enough to say he’s turned the corner officially. So far he’s been a lot like Kakko and Laf.

Hajek basically busted. Probably on him alone but he was once highly anticipated and a center piece of the TB trade.

Howden was supposed to be a middle six C but looks firmly like he’ll be nothing more than a bottom sixer, albeit a decent one.

Gauthier has potential, looked like he played well to start and has been benched in favor of 3 career AHLers.

Lias was a brat perhaps but that was totally poorly handled and it blew up in our faces.

Kravstov almost pulled a similar act after coming to camp here.

Fox showed up as a nearly finished product out of NCAA, stepped right in and didn’t really have much development under Quinn.

Ditto Miller right now.

Lindgren also did his developing in NCAA/Hartford and showed up pretty much as is with Quinn.

Shesterkin, the same but KHL. And now he’s getting yanked around, not starting consecutive games, not able to get a rhythm or confidence.

Buch and Tony were considered Quinn’s concrete examples of successful player development. Tony is about to get scratched off that list emphatically.
Is he a development coach? He’s certainly not a strategy, systems, Xs and Os coach. He’s not a motivator. He doesn’t have a firm handle on his locker room right now, it would seem.

I know this is more about Tony and not Quinn, but I do have a hard time looking at things and being happy with the boss right now.

Gonna take this piece by piece
Kakko looks significantly better. He's faster, more engaged on the puck and absolutely has shifts where he's taken over. He needs to be a bit more consistent shift to shift and when he gets a full off season to improve his skating he'll take another step.

Lafreniere looks really good. Kakko last year by game 12 looked worn out. Saying that Lafreniere looks like that seems like you're not watching the game. He's putting himself in great places to make plays in the offensive zone, but he does need to work on his defensive play which is extremely common for 18 year olds.

For the past 2 years I have absolutely shit on howden hard, up until last year he looked like an AHL player. He looks like a solid bottom 6 guy, who is sliding up into the 3rd and is doing fine.

Gauthier I dont disagree with your take, but I also dont want him sitting on the fourth line, and he hasn't really had a fair shot on the top 9, but we are stacked with wingers right now.

Lias's situation is one we won't entirely know what happened for years.

Kratsov on the other hand, he took an option to go home that was in his contract. He didnt understand being sent down and possibly the organization didnt explain things well enough to him. That definitely seems like a communication failure.

Fox I dont disagree with you.

Miller had one fantastic freshman year in wisc, and then a really bad year last year. Everyone was saying he'd need at least 1 year in the AHL. Im not saying quinn did any development, but very few people expected him to be ready or even a top 4 player this early.

 

[chosen]

The Rangers are clearly better off without him.

If you don't get that, yet, you never will.

 

[ponytrekker]

So a screenshot of a random, unknown person commenting on youtube?

Not proof, sorry.

My dad is a camera man for the Oilers and overheard McDavid requesting a trade to the Rangers.

Doesn't make it true.

Best to just wait until Brooks gives us the full story.

Think timing, context. This was posted last night before there was any hint of an issue.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Carp now confirming there was an altercation from 3 of his sources.....

Thats even worse than getting waived because you're a shitty defenseman, getting waived because you fought with your goalie confirms you're an idiot too.

 

[Mandar]

Carp now confirming there was an altercation from 3 of his sources.....

Ruh-roh @Anthony5967

but maybe everyone is out to get him...

 

[Daves a mess]

Wonder if Tony had any over the top issues with Jacques Martin or vice versa. Lots of people look at Quinn but Jacques is a no non sense coach

 

[chosen]

6 games into a new contract is more a front office screwup than an ADA pattern as the front office resigned him and put ADA on waiver 6 games into a new contract.

Never mind the growing list of questions surrounding this whole team (Lias and Krav leaving Hartford, Gauthier being benched, Smith benched, ADA changing positions, two goalies dressing around Hank while his sits the bench, non-stop line changes, lapses and routine mistakes and now the record.)

Yeah, let’s look at your perception of the real story for your own comfort. Pass

All of that has what to do with ADA being waived?

It's a big fat zero. Most people understand that.

 

[Synergy27]

So much this. Imagine if we didn't win the lottery twice. This rebuild would be pretty disastrous.

It still might be. Kakko and Laf are high probability successes but they are by no means can’t miss prospects based in their early returns.

 

[Baby Duck Homme]

Someone on Twitter posted about Igors car accident in Brooklyn way before it was announced last year. That tweet from last night about the tunnel fight can’t be dismissed so easily.

 

[H00fHearted]

Nope, I believe there must have been some precipitating event recently that caused him to be waived. I'm just not ready to etch into stone "DeAngelo fought Georgiev after the game" as that reason.

In the past half hour I've gotten texts from Rangers fans who are my friends telling me they have it on "good authority" that Tony fought Kreider, Georgiev, Barbara Streisand and that Lemieux is getting waived by the end of today.

It's all noise.

You can't deny that people who need people are the luckiest people.

 

[Harbour Dog]

So... Johnson-Smith?

 

[NYSPORTS]

So much this. Imagine if we didn't win the lottery twice. This rebuild would be pretty disastrous.

it sure would be. Let’s be thankful Panarin and Fox wanted to come to the Rangers. Besides Miller showing signs, and he hasn’t been nearly as good as Sam and Joe say, what have the Rangers done?

 

[Mandar]

Nope, I believe there must have been some precipitating event recently that caused him to be waived. I'm just not ready to etch into stone "DeAngelo fought Georgiev after the game" as that reason.

In the past half hour I've gotten texts from Rangers fans who are my friends telling me they have it on "good authority" that Tony fought Kreider, Georgiev, Barbara Streisand and that Lemieux is getting waived by the end of today.

It's all noise.

How’s that noise sounding now?

 

[Bob Richards]

Tony owning his own career because he's addicted to posting online and being a shitty teammate lol

 

[bleedblue94]

We know the Rangers resigned a FA, played him in a different positions and have placed him on waivers in 6 games. That’s enough information to recognize this whole organization screwed up. If you’re looking more reason i’m certain those reasons won’t eclipse they resigned the FA in the first place and and it took 6 games to get here.

Look I didn't quote you to start this, but I understand you need someone to argue with. He's played the same 3rd pair rd he did last year. They waited to resign him and it's well reported even moreso today that they were trying to trade him before signing him. They didn't want him here anymore. Edge said he was floated to the jackets for pld, he's been floating to Vegas, Calgary, and anaheim that we know of. Teams didn't value him. His antics opened the door for fox to get a chance on the pp1 and the team is content with fox taking that spot. It makes ada a redundant and expensive 5mil third pair d man who can't defend and is a 5mil cap him. Once he becomes expendable from pp1 his value to this team dropped and once that happens a crappy attitude and off ice antics make it easier to say goodbye. In retrospect, since no teams wanted him in trades, would you prefer they didn't resign him and just let him sit as an RFA or would you have been the guy complaining they were ruining his minimal trade value by doing that?

I'm going skating outdoors with my son right now for the first time, so I'm moving on from this now

 

[Harbour Dog]

Guys, there was obviously an altercation in the tunnel.

It was willful ignorance to deny that BEFORE Carp verified. Now it's denials are just white noise.

 

[JT Kreider]

Thats even worse than getting waived because you're a shitty defenseman, getting waived because you fought with your goalie confirms you're an idiot too.

Facts man. The first thing you get taught in pee wee is 1.) dont give up a goal in the last minute of a period and 2.) let the goalie do his own thing

 

[NYR94]

So... Johnson-Smith?

 

[Shesterkybomb]

So... Johnson-Smith?

Did you see Smith Deangelo last night....it doesnt get worse than that.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Carp now confirming there was an altercation from 3 of his sources.....

Is he still the victim

 

[Daves a mess]

Could def see him butting heads with Tony.

Not gonna lie. I really enjoyed watching his skill set last season.

Now strictly from an asset standpoint. I don't get this at all.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Once again, Quinn is a moron for Starting Geo to begin with.

DeAngelo shouldn't have attacked him and chances are he would have gone off on someone else somewhere along the way but it was a stupid decision that led to losing more than just the game.

 

[Raspewtin]

Guys, there was obviously an altercation in the tunnel.

It was willful ignorance to deny that BEFORE Carp verified. Now it's denials are just white noise.

Three sources have confirmed to The Athletic that there was indeed an altercation involving DeAngelo and goalie Alexandar Georgiev in the tunnel that leads to the Rangers’ locker room. Incidentally, Georgiev was held out of practice for “maintenance” on Sunday. The altercation was quickly broken up.

directly from Carp's article