Player Discussion Tony DeAngelo: Part V

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Eh, that's a big one but probably the one example of outrage of the other side. And posting unpopular opinions on twitter is not the same as taking a knee. One is a very public and controversial protest (that I agree with, btw) and one is posting unpopular shit. It's not surprising you'd get some feather ruffled over the protest.

I distinctly remember backlash against Lundqvist and Boyle for appearing in the commercials for the You Can Play Project like 7 or 8 years ago. There was the infamous "Shut up and dribble" clip of course. Virtually any time an athlete takes a public stance on something they get blow back from fans who disagree with them. People expect athletes to just not have opinions but of course all of them do. Yet most of them have the common sense to not get into stupid fights on Twitter with people about it.

If you're going to make your opinions known in public, popular or otherwise, you need to be prepared to face the idiots who are going to try and get a rise out of you. Tony doesn't have that ability. He's easily provoked and he's better off just shutting up. Not because I care what he says, or because he's going to get cancelled, but because he's going to cost himself a shit ton of money if he gets branded as a PR nightmare because he keeps starting fights on Twitter.
 
I distinctly remember backlash against Lundqvist and Boyle for appearing in the commercials for the You Can Play Project like 7 or 8 years ago. There was the infamous "Shut up and dribble" clip of course. Virtually any time an athlete takes a public stance on something they get blow back from fans who disagree with them. People expect athletes to just not have opinions but of course all of them do. Yet most of them have the common sense to not get into stupid fights on Twitter with people about it.

If you're going to make your opinions known in public, popular or otherwise, you need to be prepared to face the idiots who
are going to try and get a rise out of you. Tony doesn't have that ability. He's easily provoked and he's better off just shutting up. Not because I care what he says, or because he's going to get cancelled, but because he's going to cost himself a shit ton of money if he gets branded as a PR nightmare because he keeps starting fights on Twitter.

I agree with this.
 
“Lol is this Tony D’s burner Twitter?”
“This is absurdity I will straight up sue you for libel”

I love you HF Boards. Please be this way forever.
 
All I know is that literally every other day it seems like there are new questions even on this board and it’s not about whether Tony challenged some other fan to a fight; it’s about whether his politics are a distraction in the locker room despite there is no evidence that it’s a problem.

It’s kinda tiresome.
 
Why the hell did my comment get censored? It was legitimate. Tony DeAngelo is a disgrace and a distraction to the NYR and should be traded. What is controversial about that? What is non discussion material about it? Are right wingers with a grudge moderating this forum now?
 
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Why the hell did my comment get censored? It was legitimate. Tony DeAngelo is a disgrace and a distraction to the NYR and should be traded. What is controversial about that? What is non discussion material about it? Are right wingers with a grudge moderating this forum now?
No
 
All I know is that literally every other day it seems like there are new questions even on this board and it’s not about whether Tony challenged some other fan to a fight; it’s about whether his politics are a distraction in the locker room despite there is no evidence that it’s a problem.

It’s kinda tiresome.

For the 1000th time, it's not his views...other players on the team hold the same views (Fox, Lemieux, Strome). The big difference between him and those 3 are those guys aren't running their mouths, insulting people and acting a fool on social media. And someone else said, if he or someone else was on the other side of the spectrum but doing those same things, the reaction would be very similar.

Some of the things he's said/done on social media can be an issue when your employer is the New York Rangers, so yes it might not be a distraction amongst the guys, but it's a distraction and problem in a general sense. We'll see where it goes now that he's deleted Twitter.
 
I live in the city but I’m a Panthers fan: I’m not sure if this is allowed in the thread, but how big of a problem is his politics right now? (I don’t want to comment on the validity of his views, but more the interaction with the city) It seems like there is a good bit of hostility against him for his political statements and I’m curious if this might impair his play/be a distraction.

(I personally prefer my entertainers/athletes focus on the game/not politics but the norm seems to have shifted)

He plays for the NYR. In Manhattan of all places. His time here will always be borrowed because the place does not fit him. He will always be at odds and now people are starting to pick on him for his big mouth. I don't see a future for him on the Rangers for that reason alone. He couldnt keep his mouth shut in the past and now made enough enemies where a single person on twitter can make him go viral in a negative way. That is terrible publicity for the NYR and he is not worth it.
 
Lol at this “he’s not treated fairly bc of his views” bullshit. People showing their ass here with this.

He’s not being bullied in major cities that don’t like his politics. He’s losing his mind arguing with people who are f***ing with him on Twitter for the fun of it. He’s thin skinned and whiny.

It’s gone way way beyond politics online. he was embarrassing responding to people after the Carolina series. And that’s not to defend the shit people send at athletes. But if you can’t handle the slightest shit talking, don’t spend all day on Twitter.

He doesn’t get remotely close to the vitriol most controversial athletes get, and he can’t handle it. This isn’t even a popular sport. He doesn’t get close to the shit most NBA players get, doesn’t touch what English premier league players deal with. (Other soccer leagues as well but I can only read shit talking in English)
 
Why the hell did my comment get censored? It was legitimate. Tony DeAngelo is a disgrace and a distraction to the NYR and should be traded. What is controversial about that? What is non discussion material about it? Are right wingers with a grudge moderating this forum now?

again, what did he do?
 
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I don't agree with TDA on many things outside of hockey. But I think pro athletes have every right to use their platform and say whatever they want. Of course they also have to be fine with whatever verbal (non-threatening) backlash may come from that.

That said, I worry about all these 20 somethings and teenage athletes in regards to the criticism they READ on social media. Not only isn't it healthy for them as players but also as humans. And this includes Tony. 99% of what fans write about the Rangers on Twitter is absolute garbage, really shallow from a hockey knowledge perspective and way too negative or conversely way too positive. If I were management I would encourage the players to avoid paying attention to hockey social media, at the least, during the season. It's just really really bad energy and an unnecessary distraction. I feel like many athletes avoid being super active on social media for this reason. Esp the ones that are supremely focused like Sydney Crosby. But Tony is skilled enough and still has some serious work to do in developing his game in the D zone that I'd rather he focus on his game, enjoy his life and avoid all this negative energy and crud.

Ultimately, I think players like TDA are active on social media because they're thinking about their post-playing days. Becoming the next Nick Kypreos or Paul Bisonnette. But I think being a fire-brand like Tony can sometimes be on social media can make it harder for huge corporations to invest in him as on-air talent. So, if he were really thinking about a future in media, he should be working on refining that image not putting tweets out there that may come back to haunt him one day (as we've learned in the last year no tweet is gone forever)
 
For the 1000th time, it's not his views...other players on the team hold the same views (Fox, Lemieux, Strome). The big difference between him and those 3 are those guys aren't running their mouths, insulting people and acting a fool on social media. And someone else said, if he or someone else was on the other side of the spectrum but doing those same things, the reaction would be very similar.

Some of the things he's said/done on social media can be an issue when your employer is the New York Rangers, so yes it might not be a distraction amongst the guys, but it's a distraction and problem in a general sense. We'll see where it goes now that he's deleted Twitter.

I don’t think you are accurately characterizing some of the pushback DeAngelo gets.

To set the record straight, I have no problem with anyone who thinks he’s simply a loud mouthed buffoon in general.

But he’s also a very well liked one and he has a lot of positives. Yet tons of people constantly say “He’s an on ice distraction, he’s a locker room distraction, he’s a horrible human, he’s a bigot/racist etc.”

None of those things are demonstrably true and it remains apparent that most of the people who are espousing those views and wishing him off the team are doing so out of political animus.

If the larger point is that he’s a thin skinned social media jerkoff, I think pretty much everyone would agree that is true and obvious.

But even though perhaps you or Trjwx don’t hold it, there is animosity towards DeAngelo that goes well beyond that.

Whether it’s animosity that is reciprocated towards a left leaning loudmouth is perhaps up for debate but I don’t think there is any question that the combination of outspoken plus conservative is earning him way more blowback than either outspoken by itself, or, as you’ve pointed out, conservative by itself (and quiet about it).
 
again, what did he do?

There is some new theory that he has a Twitter burner account because there was this new Twitter account called NYRfan00-something and it was created and started defending DeAngelo immediately after the Pit game; and someone claims (not sure how) that it was traced to Pittsburgh.
 
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There is some new theory that he has a Twitter burner account because there was this new Twitter account called NYRfan00-something and it was created and started defending DeAngelo immediately after the Pit game; and someone claims (not sure how) that it was traced to Pittsburgh.

so nothing.

Boo hoo
 
so nothing.

Boo hoo

Well, two things. IF it is him 1 - it's so very lame. but 2. The account liked a few tweets that his teammates will not like: one bashed Trouba for his bloated contract, and then another tweet about Shesty and someone else. So, if it is him there could be issues in the locker room. And likely much more upsetting to his teammates than any political views. But the big hubbub is really about how lame it would be if he created a burner to defend his play. Especially when he swore off twitter very publicly a few weeks ago for political reasons. Again, may not be him, and if so, it is nothing. but it certainly made twitter on a saturday with no rangers game somewhat entertaining. that's about it.

And honestly, a nice distraction from talking about how terrible Jack Johnson is.
 
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Well, two things. IF it is him 1 - it's so very lame. but 2. The account liked a few tweets that his teammates will not like: one bashed Trouba for his bloated contract, and then another tweet about Shesty and someone else. So, if it is him there could be issues in the locker room. And likely much more upsetting to his teammates than any political views. But the big hubbub is really about how lame it would be if he created a burner to defend his play. Especially when he swore off twitter very publicly a few weeks ago for political reasons. Again, may not be him, and if so, it is nothing. but it certainly made twitter on a saturday with no rangers game somewhat entertaining. that's about it.

And honestly, a nice distraction from talking about how terrible Jack Johnson is.
Guys, it’s not real. Come on now. :laugh:
 
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