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JFJ's biggest blunder came when Pronger decided he wanted out of Edmonton. Edmonton approached Toronto and offered up Pronger for Kaberle and Steen, which JFJ rejected because he wanted to keep Steen. But the guy was always a good scout.

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It is nice seeing the Leafs have a successful draft, but it brings up an interesting point of this years draft;

This could really be a turning point in the Columbus Blue Jackets franchise with their current "projected" selections;

13th Overall - CBJ
17th Overall - NYR
23rd Overall - LAK

In a draft this deep, that could provide Columbus with an overwhelming amount of prospect depth and flexibility for years to come.

That isn't even mentioning their best younger assets in Ryan Johansen, Sergie Bobrosvky, Ryan Murray, Boone Jenner, Oscar Dasnk, Tim Erixon and Cam Atkinson.

The Jackets franchise could put itself in an excellent position if Jarmo gets the full value out of those picks.


The draft is and always will be an extremely important tool to utilize if teams want to remain competitive for the long haul. One good draft can set the wheels in motion for any franchise and put them forward quite a few steps, the 2006 draft set up Toronto with quite a few pieces.

Columbus is in great hands with Jarmo Kekalainen as he is recognized as one of the best amateur talent evaluators in the business.

He built up the Blues thanks to his keen eye as head scout, and I agree he is going to make full use of those draft picks to build the Blue Jackets.
 
Jarmo is aggressive, and at this deadline, put his vision into action. He's bright, motivated, knows the game well, and he's a do'er.

I'm excited to see the rise of Columbus. A great town, with a great atmosphere. It really is one of the only things Ohio's better off for.

A two-way center like Barkov would be ideal, with the emergence of RyJo. But I'm happy they played their way out of position to take him. Those fans deserve a playoff team
 
I was just glancing at the leafs draft results from 2006 and my goodness, we made out like bandits it seems.

From our draft, there are i believe 6 players playing in the nhl or have seen nhl time, out of 7 selections made, thats pretty incredible.

The only player to not have made the NHL at this point is Tyler Ruegsegger, one of 3 sixth round selections.

We did this without drafting in the third, fifth or seventh rounds.

We selected Tlusty, Kulemin, Reimer, Holzer, Stahlberg, Ruegsegger, and finally komarov.

4 guys still with the leafs! 2 traded and playing well with their respective teams and 1 guy in ruegsegger in the AHL for the abbotsford heat i believe.

pretty fantastic draft by toronto.

None of these guys can be considered good players.
 
None of these guys can be considered good players.

Just because a player isnt Sid, doesnt mean he isnt good.

Kulemin has scored 30 goals in the NHL, he is regarded far and away our best 2 way forward.

Tlusty is in the midst of a breakout season and sitting tied for 10th in the NHL with Kadri.

Reimer is leading the maple leafs to the playoffs for the first time in nearly a decade, putting up respectable starting goaltender numbers.

Holzer has progressed enough with his physical play and his defensive prowess to be a solid contributor in the AHL to a team that made it to the Calder cup finals, as well as get a good test in the NHL. Hes developing nicely despite not being as solid as people were hoping in his N stint.

Stahlberg has scored 20 goals and 40 points in a full Nhl season, putting up a similar pace in his second season with chicago and looks to continue to progress nicely with them.

Komarov is doing exactly what he was branded to do, hes a spark plug that hits everything within a 5 foot radius. Doesnt seem afraid to get to the gritty areas, doesnt care when he scores because hes done that before and seems willing to do anything to help the team win.

Ruegsegger isnt good, ill give you that.

open your eyes, stop expecting everyone to become giroux, byfuglien and zetterberg. Drafting good role players in the later rounds is essential to building a good team.
 
Just because a player isnt Sid, doesnt mean he isnt good.

Kulemin has scored 30 goals in the NHL, he is regarded far and away our best 2 way forward.

Tlusty is in the midst of a breakout season and sitting tied for 10th in the NHL with Kadri.

Reimer is leading the maple leafs to the playoffs for the first time in nearly a decade, putting up respectable starting goaltender numbers.

Holzer has progressed enough with his physical play and his defensive prowess to be a solid contributor in the AHL to a team that made it to the Calder cup finals, as well as get a good test in the NHL. Hes developing nicely despite not being as solid as people were hoping in his N stint.

Stahlberg has scored 20 goals and 40 points in a full Nhl season, putting up a similar pace in his second season with chicago and looks to continue to progress nicely with them.

Komarov is doing exactly what he was branded to do, hes a spark plug that hits everything within a 5 foot radius. Doesnt seem afraid to get to the gritty areas, doesnt care when he scores because hes done that before and seems willing to do anything to help the team win.

Ruegsegger isnt good, ill give you that.

open your eyes, stop expecting everyone to become giroux, byfuglien and zetterberg. Drafting good role players in the later rounds is essential to building a good team.

Up to date, the proof is in the pudding. The 2006 draft was modestly successful, but almost seven years after the fact, we could be heading into the playoffs.
 
JFJ's biggest blunder came when Pronger decided he wanted out of Edmonton. Edmonton approached Toronto and offered up Pronger for Kaberle and Steen, which JFJ rejected because he wanted to keep Steen. But the guy was always a good scout.

so what happens if he says yes?

MAYBE we make the playoffs in 2007. Steen was traded with Colicacovo for Stepniak who was moved for a 4th.
But you're also erasing Colborn and the 1st and 2nd round pick we got for Kaberle. How much does Pronger fetch? If the overall fortunes of the team stay mostly the same, Fletcher likely moves Pronger in 2008. But thats a big F. If we make the playoffs in 2007, we dont start the rebuild in 08.

Ferguson and Peddie both confirmed that JFJ wanted to rebuild but was nixed by upper management. He was told to make the playoffs That being said even within the parameters of "you must make the playoffs", Ferguson could have done better; practically ever free agent signing ended poorly except maybe Hal Gill. All the assets we blew (a combined two 1st round picks and a 4th) on Raycroft and Toskala) and the fact that was there any trade he made that was even remotely as positive as the Phaneuf, Gardner/Lupul, or Kaberle deals Burke made?

Honestly thats the type of draft I'd take every year. Yeah a blue chipper is nice but Claude Giroux was the only one taken in the next 10 picks (too bad we didnt pick one pick earlier though, could have gotten Bryan Little). Giroux and Lucic are the only 2 players taken in that draft after Tlusty to have 200 career points.
 
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Or it could turn out like 1999 for the Islanders:

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl1999e.html

Three picks in the top 10 and absolutely nothing to show for it. You can pick up your future core just as easy as you can swing out completely. Fun right??

NYI sure crapped the bed! If I were in their shoes I would've drafted...umm...

Using hindsight, the fact that they ended up with Tim Connolly and Taylor Pyatt in that shallow draft should probably be considered a victory.
 
JFJ's biggest blunder came when Pronger decided he wanted out of Edmonton. Edmonton approached Toronto and offered up Pronger for Kaberle and Steen, which JFJ rejected because he wanted to keep Steen. But the guy was always a good scout.

Well it helped prevent Ottawa from winning a cup, so as a Leafs fan it was still worth it.
 
Up to date, the proof is in the pudding. The 2006 draft was modestly successful, but almost seven years after the fact, we could be heading into the playoffs.

Considering most teams hope for 1 or 2 players each draft... and the leafs have 6 out of 7, i would call it a huge success. No all-stars, but a very good draft year.
 
This draft is testament of just how long it takes to develop talent, some develop sooner than others and others are just coming into their own, I do know on very good authority Morrison wanted Brian Little badly over Tlusty but Atlanta just got him before we did. As good as Little has been, would you take Little over Tlusty today?
 
Jarmo is aggressive, and at this deadline, put his vision into action. He's bright, motivated, knows the game well, and he's a do'er.

I'm excited to see the rise of Columbus. A great town, with a great atmosphere. It really is one of the only things Ohio's better off for.

A two-way center like Barkov would be ideal, with the emergence of RyJo. But I'm happy they played their way out of position to take him. Those fans deserve a playoff team

Never know

They have the picks to move up ,, If Rangers/Jackets both miss playoffs they have 2 lotto eligible picks

As a Hawk fan it sucks to lose Wings to East especially with them on downswing but glad to see Jackets leave as that team will be very good in coming years
 
Considering most teams hope for 1 or 2 players each draft... and the leafs have 6 out of 7, i would call it a huge success. No all-stars, but a very good draft year.

I would rather get one real superstar in two or three years of drafting than 2-3 average bodies out of the draft every year for the same period of time.

Of course ideally you find two or three star players in one draft and you're set for a decade...
 
so what happens if he says yes?

MAYBE we make the playoffs in 2007. Steen was traded with Colicacovo for Stepniak who was moved for a 4th.
But you're also erasing Colborn and the 1st and 2nd round pick we got for Kaberle. How much does Pronger fetch? If the overall fortunes of the team stay mostly the same, Fletcher likely moves Pronger in 2008. But thats a big F. If we make the playoffs in 2007, we dont start the rebuild in 08.

What happens if you trade a guy who was a top 20 defender for a couple seasons to Edmonton for a guy who was in his prime and is a first ballot Hall of Famer? You're really asking that? Pronger on the Leafs puts them in the playoffs, no doubt in my mind.

Suddenly you have a playoff team being led by Mats Sundin and Chris Pronger. Now that team is much more attractive to free agents. Now you don't have to blow it up and trade what little talent you do have for scraps. You will never ever convince me that the Leafs were better off not acquiring Pronger, because Kaberle and Steen were both traded and now they have Colborne and Percy (Biggs?) out of that deal. Sorry, I know who I'd rather have.
 
No, I'm saying for all the back patting it didn't really change the fortunes of the organization at all.
Sure it has. Some of the players are actively adding to our run to the playoffs, others were moved for pieces to continue helping the club in the future and not all are done developing.

I would rather get one real superstar in two or three years of drafting than 2-3 average bodies out of the draft every year for the same period of time.

Of course ideally you find two or three star players in one draft and you're set for a decade...

well yes, obviously, but that doesnt make this draft any less of a success.
 
You can put a magnificent statue atop a structure, but without a solid foundation it all comes crumbling down. See Blue Jackets, Columbus or Thrashers, Atlanta
 

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