Proposal: Threeway trade: Anaheim - Toronto - Winnipeg

[Stephen Gionta]

Anaheim:
James Van Riemsdyk


Toronto:
Jacob Trouba


Winnipeg:
Cam Fowler
2nd round pick (TOR)

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[WTFMAN99]

Anaheim:
James Van Riemsdyk


Toronto:
Jacob Trouba


Winnipeg:
Cam Fowler
2nd round pick (TOR)

I tried this prior to Toronto signing Enroth. Rough recollection this was the deal...

ANA:
JVR
Kapanen

TOR:
Trouba
Pavelec

WPG
Fowler
Dermott
Holland
Pick...I honestly forget which, it was 2-4th round pick range

WPG wouldn't go for it.

ANA fans were for it

TOR fans hated me for it

There is a case to make for TOR paying a bit more in the transaction though.

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

Anaheim and Winnipeg get ripped off.

 

[Hunter368]

Zero interest in Fowler from Jets, easy pass

 

[klamla]

I tried this prior to Toronto signing Enroth. Rough recollection this was the deal...

ANA:
JVR
Kapanen

TOR:
Trouba
Pavelec

WPG
Fowler
Dermott
Holland
Pick...I honestly forget which, it was 2-4th round pick range

WPG wouldn't go for it.

ANA fans were for it

TOR fans hated me for it

There is a case to make for TOR paying a bit more in the transaction though.

Kapanen, JVR, Dermont and Holland for Trouba and a bad goalie? No thanks.

 

[Brock Radunske]

Anaheim:
James Van Riemsdyk


Toronto:
Jacob Trouba


Winnipeg:
Cam Fowler
2nd round pick (TOR)

If Trouba wants more money than Rielly it's not going to work.

 

[Maukkis]

I tried this prior to Toronto signing Enroth. Rough recollection this was the deal...

ANA:
JVR
Kapanen

TOR:
Trouba
Pavelec

WPG
Fowler
Dermott
Holland
Pick...I honestly forget which, it was 2-4th round pick range

WPG wouldn't go for it.

ANA fans were for it

TOR fans hated me for it

There is a case to make for TOR paying a bit more in the transaction though.

If Trouba was to want out and we signed him to a bridge to enable a possible trade, this is a nice base for a deal. The other option would be with Boston instead of Toronto and Carlo instead of the bits and pieces from Toronto, and with Spooner + prospects coming to Anaheim. I'll try to give you a counter offer...

ANA: JVR, Kapanen, WPG 3rd

WPG: Fowler, ANA 1st, Dermott, Hunwick

TOR: Trouba, Stoner, Pettersson


Stoner has to go to Toronto, or else Anaheim won't save enough cap. Pavelec and Holland don't do much for their "new teams", so they can be left out of this. The original deal was favouring Anaheim by a long mile, so they give up two additional assets to balance it out (and to pay for unloading Stoner). A 3rd is there to get a pick back, about 50 spots after the 1st they give up is projected to be. Winnipeg gets a first and Dermott, which helps out tremendously with re-stocking their defensive prospect pool. Hunwick is there to take some salary off Toronto's hands, although he's not necessarily a cap dump.

Winnipeg - Trouba, 3rd <-> Fowler, 1st, Dermott, Hunwick
Anaheim: Fowler, 1st, Pettersson, Stoner <-> JVR, Kapanen, 3rd
Toronto: JVR, Dermott, Hunwick, Kapanen <-> Trouba, Stoner, Pettersson

Anaheim gets forward help and about 2-3 million of cap relief, while retaining the defensive prospect to endure the loss of Fowler. They also reduce their expansion problems, and opens up the crucial cap room to get their Swedes signed. The cost is steep, but worth it.

Winnipeg loses the best player from the position of need, but partially replaces him for two years (at least), and gains good futures in the process. They take on a bit of cap, but nothing too major.

Toronto gets the RHD they need without shipping out Gardiner, but gives a lot of offense to do so. Also, they add a couple of millions of cap. Their defense is set, but the offense becomes a question mark for now.

 

[garyturner3]

Anaheim and Winnipeg get ripped off.

JVR for Fowler has been discussed at length and value wise it's dead on so not sure how you think Anaheim is getting ripped off here.

 

[WTFMAN99]

If Trouba was to want out and we signed him to a bridge to enable a possible trade, this is a nice base for a deal. The other option would be with Boston instead of Toronto and Carlo instead of the bits and pieces from Toronto, and with Spooner + prospects coming to Anaheim. I'll try to give you a counter offer...

ANA: JVR, Kapanen, WPG 3rd

WPG: Fowler, ANA 1st, Dermott, Hunwick

TOR: Trouba, Stoner, Pettersson


Stoner has to go to Toronto, or else Anaheim won't save enough cap. Pavelec and Holland don't do much for their "new teams", so they can be left out of this. The original deal was favouring Anaheim by a long mile, so they give up two additional assets to balance it out (and to pay for unloading Stoner). A 3rd is there to get a pick back, about 50 spots after the 1st they give up is projected to be. Winnipeg gets a first and Dermott, which helps out tremendously with re-stocking their defensive prospect pool. Hunwick is there to take some salary off Toronto's hands, although he's not necessarily a cap dump.

Winnipeg - Trouba, 3rd <-> Fowler, 1st, Dermott, Hunwick
Anaheim: Fowler, 1st, Pettersson, Stoner <-> JVR, Kapanen, 3rd
Toronto: JVR, Dermott, Hunwick, Kapanen <-> Trouba, Stoner, Pettersson

Anaheim gets forward help and about 2-3 million of cap relief, while retaining the defensive prospect to endure the loss of Fowler. They also reduce their expansion problems, and opens up the crucial cap room to get their Swedes signed. The cost is steep, but worth it.

Winnipeg loses the best player from the position of need, but partially replaces him for two years (at least), and gains good futures in the process. They take on a bit of cap, but nothing too major.

Toronto gets the RHD they need without shipping out Gardiner, but gives a lot of offense to do so. Also, they add a couple of millions of cap. Their defense is set, but the offense becomes a question mark for now.

I'd have to think about this a bit.

 

[Brock Radunske]

I wouldn't feel comfortable adding BOTH Kapanen and Dermott to JVR AND take a dump back.
I know prospects are risky but that could end up looking like a top line winger + top 6 winger + top 4 defenseman.
No thanks.

 

[Legend123]

What kind of leafs tainted glasses are u wearing.

 

[Brock Radunske]

What kind of leafs tainted glasses are u wearing.

Because I'm hesitant to trade our 1st line winger, best defensive prospect and a good winger prospect for a top 4 defenseman without a contract?
K bud.

 

[TopShelfWaterBottle]

Ana doesn't trade first round picks the last time it happened I think was in the early 2000 or late 90's

 

[Ducks in a row]

Ana doesn't trade first round picks the last time it happened I think was in the early 2000 or late 90's

1999 was the only draft we didn't draft in round 1 in our franchise history.

 

[Finnish your Czech]

If Trouba was to want out and we signed him to a bridge to enable a possible trade, this is a nice base for a deal. The other option would be with Boston instead of Toronto and Carlo instead of the bits and pieces from Toronto, and with Spooner + prospects coming to Anaheim. I'll try to give you a counter offer...

ANA: JVR, Kapanen, WPG 3rd

WPG: Fowler, ANA 1st, Dermott, Hunwick

TOR: Trouba, Stoner, Pettersson


Stoner has to go to Toronto, or else Anaheim won't save enough cap. Pavelec and Holland don't do much for their "new teams", so they can be left out of this. The original deal was favouring Anaheim by a long mile, so they give up two additional assets to balance it out (and to pay for unloading Stoner). A 3rd is there to get a pick back, about 50 spots after the 1st they give up is projected to be. Winnipeg gets a first and Dermott, which helps out tremendously with re-stocking their defensive prospect pool. Hunwick is there to take some salary off Toronto's hands, although he's not necessarily a cap dump.

Winnipeg - Trouba, 3rd <-> Fowler, 1st, Dermott, Hunwick
Anaheim: Fowler, 1st, Pettersson, Stoner <-> JVR, Kapanen, 3rd
Toronto: JVR, Dermott, Hunwick, Kapanen <-> Trouba, Stoner, Pettersson

Anaheim gets forward help and about 2-3 million of cap relief, while retaining the defensive prospect to endure the loss of Fowler. They also reduce their expansion problems, and opens up the crucial cap room to get their Swedes signed. The cost is steep, but worth it.

Winnipeg loses the best player from the position of need, but partially replaces him for two years (at least), and gains good futures in the process. They take on a bit of cap, but nothing too major.

Toronto gets the RHD they need without shipping out Gardiner, but gives a lot of offense to do so. Also, they add a couple of millions of cap. Their defense is set, but the offense becomes a question mark for now.

I like this for Toronto. They would have to use a lot of the LTIR exemption though.

 

[WTFMAN99]

I like this for Toronto. They would have to use a lot of the LTIR exemption though.

This is how I see the money playing out

Cowen out = Stoner

JVR + Hunwick = Trouba

Still mentally debating if I want to do this deal, that is a lot of assets to give up.

 

[Finnish your Czech]

This is how I see the money playing out

Cowen out = Stoner

JVR + Hunwick = Trouba

Still mentally debating if I want to do this deal, that is a lot of assets to give up.

That's implying Cowen's out

 

[WTFMAN99]

That's implying Cowen's out

Lou doesn't lose

I know what you're saying though.

Cap doesn't work otherwise really.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Anaheim:
James Van Riemsdyk


Toronto:
Jacob Trouba


Winnipeg:
Cam Fowler
2nd round pick (TOR)

Only Toronto does that trade

 

[Halla]

Anaheim and Winnipeg get ripped off.

how do both get ripped off?

is trouba>>> fowler + early 2nd?

and Fowler >>>JVR?

 

[Mr Hockey*]

Leafs have to give up JVR + 2nd > Trouba? hmmm

 

[Halla]

If Trouba was to want out and we signed him to a bridge to enable a possible trade, this is a nice base for a deal. The other option would be with Boston instead of Toronto and Carlo instead of the bits and pieces from Toronto, and with Spooner + prospects coming to Anaheim. I'll try to give you a counter offer...

ANA: JVR, Kapanen, WPG 3rd

WPG: Fowler, ANA 1st, Dermott, Hunwick

TOR: Trouba, Stoner, Pettersson


Stoner has to go to Toronto, or else Anaheim won't save enough cap. Pavelec and Holland don't do much for their "new teams", so they can be left out of this. The original deal was favouring Anaheim by a long mile, so they give up two additional assets to balance it out (and to pay for unloading Stoner). A 3rd is there to get a pick back, about 50 spots after the 1st they give up is projected to be. Winnipeg gets a first and Dermott, which helps out tremendously with re-stocking their defensive prospect pool. Hunwick is there to take some salary off Toronto's hands, although he's not necessarily a cap dump.

Winnipeg - Trouba, 3rd <-> Fowler, 1st, Dermott, Hunwick
Anaheim: Fowler, 1st, Pettersson, Stoner <-> JVR, Kapanen, 3rd
Toronto: JVR, Dermott, Hunwick, Kapanen <-> Trouba, Stoner, Pettersson

Anaheim gets forward help and about 2-3 million of cap relief, while retaining the defensive prospect to endure the loss of Fowler. They also reduce their expansion problems, and opens up the crucial cap room to get their Swedes signed. The cost is steep, but worth it.

Winnipeg loses the best player from the position of need, but partially replaces him for two years (at least), and gains good futures in the process. They take on a bit of cap, but nothing too major.

Toronto gets the RHD they need without shipping out Gardiner, but gives a lot of offense to do so. Also, they add a couple of millions of cap. Their defense is set, but the offense becomes a question mark for now.

WInnipeg gets Fowler, a 1st, one of the leafs better prospects, and a bottom pairing vet dman for Trouba?

lemme guess, Jets fan?

leafs arent giving up JVR, Kapanen, Dermott AND taking on a cap dump to get Trouba. thats just awful

 

[Hunter368]

how do both get ripped off?

is trouba>>> fowler + early 2nd?

and Fowler >>>JVR?

No interest in Fowler.....period. Putting lipstick on the deal doesn't make it any better. Pass

 

[DANTHEMAN1967]

WInnipeg gets Fowler, a 1st, one of the leafs better prospects, and a bottom pairing vet dman for Trouba?

lemme guess, Jets fan?

leafs arent giving up JVR, Kapanen, Dermott AND taking on a cap dump to get Trouba. thats just awful

Well said!
Definite pass from the Leafs.

 

[JetsHomer]

how do both get ripped off?

is trouba>>> fowler + early 2nd?

and Fowler >>>JVR?

Yes.