This whole year is gonna suck balls

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Its sucked for a while now. Injuries suck, but its more that the team is rebuilding and a large portion of the fanbase doesn't seem to have any idea what that means and appear to be yearning for a return to mediocrity.
Weve been losing since 2016 now... Its been seven seasons already. I understand theres been a fluke covid run and that theres been a management change but it doesnt change the fact that this team has been losing since 2016. It takes a toll, especially now that this season seems to be another throwaway with Dachs injury.
 

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With the insane amount of whining of this board, yeah, it will definitely blow.

A large part of our fan base is no different than the Leafs. Overreaction most of the time. Sure, Dach's injury sucks. I guess some fans can go back to "Not Watching Games" again.

The whining is on the annoying side for sure.

Weve been losing since 2016 now... Its been seven seasons already. I understand theres been a fluke covid run and that theres been a management change but it doesnt change the fact that this team has been losing since 2016. It takes a toll, especially now that this season seems to be another throwaway with Dachs injury.

What is the context into this apparent throwaway season? Are you saying we should be winning and competing for the playoffs? I'm sure that's not what you meant so what are we throwing away? Dach's development and someone who could also help Slaf's development? That's the only thing I see us missing but then I see opportunity to Newhook, Ylonen, and RHP.

Not many teams who rebuild end up getting a Bedard right away like the Hawks did. Our rebuild is tracking many seasons of transition. Sens have had how many transition seasons now with lots of heartbreak and we are yet again in a season where they "should" compete for the playoffs.

Proper rebuilds are painful. You know this and we are not getting to top 10 level in the NHL for years to come.
 
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Prepare for another borefest of a season. Losing Dach is terrible, his line was the wild card.

If only we had Michkov to follow.

Because life is short, I'll focus on the positives:

- Most important positive, since we're likely not winning the cup, as good a top 10 pick as possible
- Newhook - seeing what he'll become
- Guhle - seeing what he'll become
- Xhekaj - seeing what he'll become
- Slaf - seeing what he'll become
- RHP - seeing what he'll become
- Ylonen - seeing what he'll become
- Matheson, Monahan, Anderson, Montembault - seeing what their zenith is.

So a lot for me to follow. For some reason I'm really interested in watching Ylonen develop. He's now imposing physically, to go along with his shot, speed and hands. I think he could be a very useful 3rd liner, who's good defensively and can chip in offensively.

And I didn't mention Suzuki and Caufield who can entertain and we'll see what heights they can reach. And I'm even curious to see if Dvo and Pearson can surprise.

There will be more injuries. Good thing there are a lot of players to watch to see what they can do - and with a little luck a top 3 pick coming as the crescendo of the season.
 

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Weve been losing since 2016 now... Its been seven seasons already. I understand theres been a fluke covid run and that theres been a management change but it doesnt change the fact that this team has been losing since 2016. It takes a toll, especially now that this season seems to be another throwaway with Dachs injury.

Well yeah... The thing is the rebuild should have started long before 2021, but we were stuck with the village idiot doing idiotic stuff until that point. So this is what it is...
 

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A large part of our fan base is no different than the Leafs. Overreaction most of the time. Sure, Dach's injury sucks. I guess some fans can go back to "Not Watching Games" again.

The whining is on the annoying side for sure.



What is the context into this apparent throwaway season? Are you saying we should be winning and competing for the playoffs? I'm sure that's not what you meant so what are we throwing away?
We should be getting primed to compete, yes. Caufield, Anderson, Matheson, RHP, Dach, Montambeault, Suzuki are primed. Guhle, Xhekaj, Heineman, and a few others are arriving.

If this core cant compete at this age, it never will.
 

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Weve been losing since 2016 now... Its been seven seasons already. I understand theres been a fluke covid run and that theres been a management change but it doesnt change the fact that this team has been losing since 2016. It takes a toll, especially now that this season seems to be another throwaway with Dachs injury.

First of all, its been losing since 2017-2018, Montreal won the division in 2017.

More importantly, I'm not sure why optionally cheering for a hockey teams means that logic should be completely abandoned. Bergevin committed the organization to a path of mediocrity that set the organization back years (and we were still able to get a cup run out of it). While its certain that new management will (and likely already has) made mistakes, but most of the belly-aching is premature.

It definitely sucks that Dach wont play, both from a watchability pov and from a development standpoint, but he does not make or break the rebuild. And if the season is a throwaway after he got injured, it was a throwaway already.
 

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1993 last time we won the Stanley Cup.

1993!

That's a long ass drought for this city.

And it's not like we had very entertaining hockey from 1993 to 2023. Mostly total crap except for the Kovalev years.

But we had a chance at another Russian Maestro.

We blew it.
 

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We should be getting primed to compete, yes. Caufield, Anderson, Matheson, RHP, Dach, Montambeault, Suzuki are primed. Guhle, Xhekaj, Heineman, and a few others are arriving.

If this core cant compete at this age, it never will.

I don't see us competing this early. I see our compete window starting when Suzuki is 27/28 and Reinbacher is 21/22. Everyone else in the middle of that.

Even the Avs and Lightning took a while to get to where they are today. Suzuki being 24 today is basically the start of his prime/mature years. Way too many guys younger than him who are still in development.

I expected us to be in that bottom 8-12 range this season. Might still end up there but if Dach is out for the season, I'm lowering it to 5-10 range with our pick.

Dach injured does suck but would you not agree that this season was projected to be another 5-10 or 8-12 range pick? I'd like to assume that's what most of us were thinking
 

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1993 last time we won the Stanley Cup.

1993!

That's a long ass drought for this city.

And it's not like we had very entertaining hockey from 1993 to 2023. Mostly total crap except for the Kovalev years.

But we had a chance at another Russian Maestro.

We blew it.

If it was that much of a slam dunk where Michkov was the next Russian great, don't you think he gets drafted before the Habs pick?

Hey, Michkov has skill no doubt but are we guilty of counting the chicken before they hatch with the "blew it" narrative?

First we are doomed that we didn't draft Michkov and now we are even more doomed with Dach injured? Don't you realize how this sounds in the whining department? It's premature bud... none of us know what the future holds.
 

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Well yeah... The thing is the rebuild should have started long before 2021, but we were stuck with the village idiot doing idiotic stuff until that point. So this is what it is...
The rebuild didnt start because we held assets, but we also didnt sell to compete. 9th, 25th, 3rd, 15th, 17, 1, 5. Those are rebuilding picks.

Hate on Berg all you want, and Ill join in, but he did mainly move assets out and didnt spend much on acquisitions. Even with the Dvorak blunder (whos still gonna go for a 2nd ish IMO), its still a 1st sent out vs a couple 2nd, the Pac, Toff, Kulak returns, etc.

Again, let's stop crucifying people for being impatient, theyve been waiting almost a decade for a competitive team now.
 

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I mean lets be real, Dach hasn't been a top point producer for us, its 30-40 points we have to replace. We keep thinking he's going to explode, but you know.. maybe he's just a total injury prone , over-hyped turd from the draft that Chicago understood?

Losing a playing like this only sucks in Montreal because we have zero depth and sus drafting to replace him with. If Dach wasn't a first round pick, but a 4th rounder, would we really be freaking out right now? Time for this team to man-up and find 35pt from somewhere down the middle.
 

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We should be getting primed to compete, yes. Caufield, Anderson, Matheson, RHP, Dach, Montambeault, Suzuki are primed. Guhle, Xhekaj, Heineman, and a few others are arriving.

If this core cant compete at this age, it never will.

Caufield has played less than 150 NHL games. RHP, is a sophmore. Most people that Montembault was a placeholder before last season. Anderson and Matheson aren't core players.

That group of players has never been identified as the core of this team. Its been Caufield and Suzuki. Maybe Dach.

Why are setting a goal no one else has or would?
 

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So you really gonna whine about this for the next 10 years orrrrrr?
Probably the next 50 if were honest.
First of all, its been losing since 2017-2018, Montreal won the division in 2017.

More importantly, I'm not sure why optionally cheering for a hockey teams means that logic should be completely abandoned. Bergevin committed the organization to a path of mediocrity that set the organization back years (and we were still able to get a cup run out of it). While its certain that new management will (and likely already has) made mistakes, but most of the belly-aching is premature.

It definitely sucks that Dach wont play, both from a watchability pov and from a development standpoint, but he does not make or break the rebuild. And if the season is a throwaway after he got injured, it was a throwaway already.
2016 happened too.

Its not about logic, everyone knows its not HuGos faul. It is still factual that this team hasnt competed in a long, long time.

Caufield has played less than 150 NHL games. RHP, is a sophmore. Most people that Montembault was a placeholder before last season. Anderson and Matheson aren't core players.

That group of players has never been identified as the core of this team. Its been Caufield and Suzuki. Maybe Dach.

Why are setting a goal no one else has or would?
Caufield is scoring 50 goals per 80, why does it matter how many games hes played? Moreover, why are you bringing up games when you know for a fact hes been injured for 80 of them?

Call it whatever, most assets are primed right now, not in three years.
 

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Of course I agree with the rebuild. I'm not blaming management here. I'm not blaming anyone.

Just an abomination of a situation as a fan.

30 years of this shit.

I earned the right to randomly log online on an October Tuesday and blow off steam.
 

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remember when we mocked the media for saying habs fans will never habs the patience for a rebuild lol
Its been losing seasons since 2016 with one hiatus.

I mean lets be real, Dach hasn't been a top point producer for us, its 30-40 points we have to replace. We keep thinking he's going to explode, but you know.. maybe he's just a total injury prone , over-hyped turd from the draft that Chicago understood?

Losing a playing like this only sucks in Montreal because we have zero depth and sus drafting to replace him with. If Dach wasn't a first round pick, but a 4th rounder, would we really be freaking out right now? Time for this team to man-up and find 35pt from somewhere down the middle.
I mean, hes only producing 35 40 because hes injury prone.
 
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