Rumor: Things Not Left Unsaid 3 - Flyers Rumors and Media Mentions: Never Ending Circles

[JojoTheWhale]

Every time this dopey topic comes up, it feels worth remembering that a specific part of the reporting was that Armstrong had Laughton on the WC team and fell in love with him. This wasn’t random chance.

 

[Adam Warlock]

Risto rumors. Jiricek rumors. Ottawa rumors.

Is it time....time to BUCKLE UP???

 

[Cody Webster]

I'm still skeptical of that "reported" deal.

Similar players (Toffoli, Goodrow, Wennberg, etc) were dealt for a 2nd and 3rd or a 1st with a 3rd going the other way.
Top six forwards can get you a 1st but not a lot more.

And St Louis was only offering a 1st for Sanheim with a salary dump (Krug).
So it wasn't like their GM was eager to overpay.

I think Laughton has similar value than a year ago, to get a 1st you'd have to send back a late 2nd or 3rd and/or take on a salary dump. More likely to garner a 2nd plus another asset.
Laughton and Flyers 2nd for 1st and 3rd and take a bad forward contract (few million)?

Risto will probably be similar to Walker, 1st with a salary dump and 5th going the other way.

Of course you're skeptical, it doesn't fit your narrative. I'm sure the insiders just made it up for the hell of it

 

[DAVIDE1333]

Should the Flyers inquire with the Rangers on Trouba and Kreider?

The Rangers have reportedly started shopping two of their veteran players. Could the Flyers get involved?

broadstreetbuzz.com

I get it, it's a writer trying to get clicks, but nothing says "rebuild", like 30 yo Jacob Trouba and 33 yo Kris Kreider.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

I think I've heard this one before. They'll set the price at something ridiculous then shrug their shoulders when they don't get it.

We talk about overrating our prospects on this board. Maybe the Flyers overvalue their intangibley grinders

They probably want multiple first round picks for that stud forward Scott Laughton

 

[Winston Wolf]

Am I completely making this up or was deadhead an Economics professor? Those poor kids, if so.

If Briere could flip Bonk+ for Jiricek, he'd almost start to redeem himself for that terrible pick.

 

[ponder719]

Risto rumors. Jiricek rumors. Ottawa rumors.

Is it time....time to BUCKLE UP???

In this ramshackle wagon, everyone should remain buckled up at all times. Never know when we'll hit a slight bump and the wheels will come off.

 

[deadhead]

Of course you're skeptical, it doesn't fit your narrative. I'm sure the insiders just made it up for the hell of it

Experience tells me when something sounds too good to be true, it usually isn't.

Given Laughton was on the trade block in 2021, didn't sound like the FO was that in love - unless you think Briere/Torts suddenly became infatuated!

Then why this?

https://phillyhockeynow.com/2024/02/01/philadelphia-flyers-trade-offers-scott-laughton-report/

Sabres Want Cates, Not Laughton From Flyers

As the 2024 NHL trade deadline approached, Scott Laughton of the Philadelphia Flyers was a player speculated to be on the radar of the Buffalo Sabres. That speculation increasingly grew into strong hinting from Sportsnet’s Jeff Marek, whether on the “32 Thoughts: The Podcast” or his daily radio...

buffalohockeynow.com

If Briere had really been offered a 1st and 2nd, you think he'd have hesitated?

My suspicion was there may have been a 1st and 2nd mentioned, but as part of a larger deal that included Laughton as well as combinations of Sanheim, Hayes and salary dumps.

"If the deal eventually gets finalized, it sounds like it will be much smaller than originally discussed. Names like Sanheim, Tony DeAngelo and Scott Laughton were previously mentioned, but now it could just be Hayes."

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/4638311/2023/06/24/kevin-hayes-blues-flyers-trade/

Tweet from St Louis reporter:

Andy Strickland
@andystrickland

Laughton, Sanheim, Deangelo , In addition to Hayes, are all players who could be on move from Flyers.

He's still pretty much the same player he's been, a marginal 3C, a solid 4C, better at LW, a top PK player. Now with only one year left on his deal after this season. He should have similar trade value, which I expect is something on the order of a 2026 2nd and 2025 3rd. To get a 1st, Flyers would have to send an asset back and/or take a salary dump, similar to the Walker trade.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

Should the Flyers inquire with the Rangers on Trouba and Kreider?

The Rangers have reportedly started shopping two of their veteran players. Could the Flyers get involved?

broadstreetbuzz.com

I get it, it's a writer trying to get clicks, but nothing says "rebuild", like 30 yo Jacob Trouba and 33 yo Kris Kreider.

#Beaf***ingOlddogFlyer..

 

[freakydallas13]

Given Laughton was on the trade block in 2021, didn't sound like the FO was that in love - unless you think Briere/Torts suddenly became infatuated!

Stop assuming things to be true based on a single data point to try and prove your own personal narrative.

"A player was rumoured to be on the trade block?! The conclusion must be that the team doesn't like them very much!"

There could be a hundred reasons a player is on the trade block, it isn't proof of some grand overarching worldview you imagined.

If Briere had really been offered a 1st and 2nd, you think he'd have hesitated?

Briere specially stated he wasn't going to deal Laughton for "fair value", so yes. We know he was only taking an "overpayment" to move Laughton.

My suspicion was there may have been a 1st and 2nd mentioned, but as part of a larger deal that included Laughton as well as combinations of Sanheim, Hayes and salary dumps.

This is entirely speculation on your part. Speculation you pass off as closer to fact than it really is, likely because you don't like the consequences of admitting the report was factual (aka it makes the Flyers look bad).

 

[JojoTheWhale]

This is a completely different front office please stop bringing up anything that happened under Fletcher, but also their Laughton thoughts carried over from 2021. The dots never connect. We're just saying shit.

 

[Rebels57]

Seravalli mentioned Flyers in on Jiricek. Also wondered about Ottawa and Flyers, but said Flyers not interested in Norris with contract and injury history

I have a feeling they are looking at Ridley Greig.

 

[freakydallas13]

This is a completely different front office please stop bringing up anything that happened under Fletcher, but also their Laughton thoughts carried over from 2021. The dots never connect. We're just saying shit.

It's like object permanence doesn't exist.

 

[deadhead]

This is a completely different front office please stop bringing up anything that happened under Fletcher, but also their Laughton thoughts carried over from 2021. The dots never connect. We're just saying shit.

You do realize that was deliberate, don't you?

 

[JojoTheWhale]

You do realize that was deliberate, don't you?

I did not. If so, that works for me.

 

[Boocowski]

It is maybe a good (sell high) time to move Risto as he's finally playing some decent hockey and you'd have to wonder if that can last or if it's just a blip and he will regress again later (or get hurt).

Supposedly they are talking to Ottawa? I'd be all in on a big Brady Tkachuk deal (assuming it doesn't involve Michkov or Andrae). Also NY talk but everybody seems to be talking to NY.

Laughton is always mentioned, almost like it's an annual event.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Risto rumors. Jiricek rumors. Ottawa rumors.

Is it time....time to BUCKLE UP???

 

[renberg]

It is maybe a good (sell high) time to move Risto as he's finally playing some decent hockey and you'd have to wonder if that can last or if it's just a blip and he will regress again later (or get hurt).

Supposedly they are talking to Ottawa? I'd be all in on a big Brady Tkachuk deal (assuming it doesn't involve Michkov or Andrae). Also NY talk but everybody seems to be talking to NY.

Laughton is always mentioned, almost like it's an annual event.

You’re not going to get Tkachuk out of them but Pinto + for Laughton and Risto might work

 

[deadhead]

You’re not going to get Tkachuk out of them but Pinto + for Laughton and Risto might work

Ottawa is 2 points behind the Flyers, not sure they see themselves as a PO team.
If not, then they would have little interest.

 

[Chicken N Raffls]

That's Flyers fans getting buckled in for all the big trades.

Flyers front office?

 

[Boocowski]

You’re not going to get Tkachuk out of them but Pinto + for Laughton and Risto might work

Pinto would be interesting for sure, but don't be so sure on Tkachuk. There's been a lot of debate on him up in Ottawa as of late and the fanbase is divided so moving him for a reboot isn't impossible. As a Canadian team they are also going to remember how his brother wanted out of Calgary and maybe they make that move early and sell high so to speak before he leverages them.

The price tag would be high of course. Laughton and Risto alone would not get it done I agree with that. So it's unlikely, but ya gotta dream.

 

[ponder719]

Ottawa is 2 points behind the Flyers, not sure they see themselves as a PO team.
If not, then they would have little interest.

Bear in mind that they should want to be one either this year or next, because they still have to forfeit a #1 as part of the Dadonov fallout, unless Andlauer wears Gary down and gets a lesser penalty out of it. Much less awkward to give back #22 than #6.

 

[tictactoe]

Trade Risto, Laughton, Farabee I would love to pack Drysdale for possible Jiricek - if we are interested in him.

If Trouba is available I would take him for anything less then 1st round pick and some salary retention maybe) . (I am not sure why nyr are looking to move him and I do not care.)

 

[WolfOfBroadStreet14]

Couple the way Risto has been playing, with teams obsession for Big RHD, and the rumored large cap increase the next two seasons and I think we could get a pretty good return for him without retaining.

He’s been playing so well lately I fully expect Briere to decide he’s too good to trade and then he regresses to old Risto and becomes immovable without eating half again.

 

[trostol]

Couple the way Risto has been playing, with teams obsession for Big RHD, and the rumored large cap increase the next two seasons and I think we could get a pretty good return for him without retaining.

He’s been playing so well lately I fully expect Briere to decide he’s too good to trade and then he regresses to old Risto and becomes immovable without eating half again.

he'll also get an extension lol