Blue Jays Discussion: The trade deadline approaches (Tue, Aug 2 at 6pm ET/3pm PT) and the market is taking shape

[SDig14]

Like, WTF do they need him for? They have Cole, Cortez, Severino (who apparently thought he was going to be ready in a couple weeks, now on IL to mid-September), Taillon, Monty and just traded for Montas.

 

[Man Bear Pig]

I don't see how the Yankees realistically get Lopez but teams seem to value Yankees prospects highly.

 

[Blitzkrug]

Like, WTF do they need him for? They have Cole, Cortez, Severino (who apparently thought he was going to be ready in a couple weeks, now on IL to mid-September), Taillon, Monty and just traded for Montas.

There's your answer. Severino is probably in worse shape than everyone knows.

Would rather not face a threesome of Cole, Cortes and Lopez in a playoff series.

 

[Man Bear Pig]

Like, WTF do they need him for? They have Cole, Cortez, Severino (who apparently thought he was going to be ready in a couple weeks, now on IL to mid-September), Taillon, Monty and just traded for Montas.

Because they're the Yankees and they've been doing this for decades. It's an F you that's why type of thing.

 

[SDig14]

There's your answer. Severino is probably in worse shape than everyone knows.

Would rather not face a threesome of Cole, Cortes and Lopez in a playoff series.

Well, it was Severino himself that said he thought he would be ready in a few weeks and is pissed at the Yankees for putting him on the 60-day IL, ha. But it is possible his comeback does not go as planned.

 

[Vector]

Fangraphs article on the Bass and Pop trade.

 

[LaP]

I don't see how the Yankees realistically get Lopez but teams seem to value Yankees prospects highly.

Has always been the case sadly. I remember when Ricky Ledee was over-hyped to death and was used in a package to acquire David Justice.

 

[BertCorbeau]

So looks like it might only be Thor/iglesias

Or nothing more

 

[Canada4Gold]

I have a bad feeling that I'm going to hate the Syndergaard trade. LIke Zulueta + Gabby Martinez for Syndergaard + Iglesias at full price kind of hate it.

 

[Vector]

 

[Man Bear Pig]

Has always been the case sadly. I remember when Ricky Ledee was over-hyped to death and was used in a package to acquire David Justice.

I remember the Clemens deal. He asked to be dealt to New York so he'd be closer to his home in Texas. You don't need to be a geography expert to know Toronto is closer than New York. The Jays got absolutely hosed in that deal.

 

[metafour]

Lopez is gonna cost a fortune (and rightfully so).

I don't get what the fascination with Lopez is. He really hasn't been very good the past ~two months and his velocity is down this year.

I mean he's still "good", but he looks like Berrios. He's really not a front-of-the rotation starter or anything like that.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Something better happen cause my wife’s going to be mad at me for checking my phone so much

 

[Man Bear Pig]

Detroit finally wake up from their nap?

 

[PanniniClaus]

Has always been the case sadly. I remember when Ricky Ledee was over-hyped to death and was used in a package to acquire David Justice.

1995 - Tino Martinez to the Yanks for Sterling Hitchcock and Russ Davis.. Davis was a completely overhyped dud. Hitch was a middling starter.. Tino was a stud in NY

 

[Deebo]

 

[Makaveli]

f***

 

[Man Bear Pig]

I don't get what the fascination with Lopez is. He really hasn't been very good the past ~two months and his velocity is down this year.

I mean he's still "good", but he looks like Berrios. He's really not a front-of-the rotation starter or anything like that.

You're paying for the team control. 2+ years of control on a #2/#3 starter has value. And Berrios got a pretty good haul back at the time.

 

[Woodman19]

f***

Given the choice of him and Iglesias, I take Iglesias.

 

[Vector]

I don't get what the fascination with Lopez is. He really hasn't been very good the past ~two months and his velocity is down this year.

I mean he's still "good", but he looks like Berrios. He's really not a front-of-the rotation starter or anything like that.

For me it is one of two things:

1) He can grow an absolutely outstanding moustache goatee combination. Real ace stuff on his face.

2) He smiles like a kindergartner. Very endearing.

 

[Blitzkrug]

Surely they're not going to get outbid on Thor and then throw their hands up

 

[as Pure as Evil]

Because they're the Yankees and they've been doing this for decades. It's an F you that's why type of thing.

better then the 90's when 75% of the owners just threw up the white flag and kept handing them high priced superstars for pennies on the dollar

 

[Man Bear Pig]

Weird. Philly may not even make the playoffs.

 

[stickty111]

Well thats too bad. So Bass and Pop then? BP is improved but very underwhelming

 

[TimeZone]

This is about to be nothing short of laughable.