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Blue Jays Discussion: The trade deadline approaches (Tue, Aug 2 at 6pm ET/3pm PT) and the market is taking shape
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Front-runners to land Juan Soto clear as time winds down before deadline
Trading a young superstar never works out as well as acquiring a young superstar.
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Let’s take a look at each of the three entrants.
1. Padres
GM A.J. Preller is a big-game hunter, as he showed again in trading for Josh Hader, the game’s best closer, while gearing up to try to beat out the rival Dodgers and Cardinals for the biggest fish. The Padres under Preller have done a terrific job stockpiling impressive young players, and some see them as having the kids with the highest ceilings in this derby. Pitchers MacKenzie Gore (who has an elbow issue and may be rested for the remainder of the year) and Adrian Morejon, outfielders Robert Hassell III and James Wood and infielder C.J. Abrams are among many future stars the Padres could offer.
The Padres have become big spenders after pretending to reside in a small market for decades. While they can’t match revenues with the Dodgers, their 20,000-plus season ticket base ranks among the top five in the game, and others around the game see them “spending ahead of revenues,” which is great for the fans and gives them a shot at players they never dreamed of before.
2. Dodgers
They have the prospects, the wherewithal and the recent history of big deals, including only last year with the Nats, when they acquired Trea Turner and Max Scherzer for Keibert Ruiz, Josiah Gray and prospects. Never count them out.
While they seemed to be running third earlier, there really is no reason to assume they are behind in this derby, not now. Their prospect stash is impressive: catcher Diego Cartaya, pitchers Bobby Miller and Ryan Pepiot, infielders Miguel Vargas and Michael Busch and more. They also have young players Gavin Lux and Dustin May, who’d surely be of interest to the Nats.
3. Cardinals
They looked like a potential match from the start, with a terrific collection of young position players, some of whom are already at the big-league level. Those who’ve ascended include infielder Nolan Gorman and outfielders Dylan Carlson and Harrison Bader. In the minors, there are infielders Jordan Walker and Masyn Winn.
The Cardinals aren’t known to be as aggressive as their West Coast rivals, so some would be a bit surprised if they pull this off. They also have a couple issues. One is that starting pitching should be their priority following the losses of Jack Flaherty and Steven Matz. Another is that they have mostly positional prospects. Matthew Liberatore is one nice pitching prospect, but he isn’t a hard thrower, and it isn’t certain he’s on the Nats’ wish list.
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If Soto goes before 3 tomorrow it's going to be the Dodgers.
Preller likes to put his dong on the tables but the Dodgers straight up don't give a shit about paying the capital needed to pull big names and then giving them a blank check, saying "write a number on it"
Soto at the top of that lineup plus them getting reinforcements back with Dustin May due back soon and then Walker Buehler sometime before the postseason?
At some point the Dodgers lineup just because too big to fail.
I still think the Blue Jays are in the picture but I don't see them willingly outbidding both LA and San Diego even though they absolutely could.
Preller likes to put his dong on the tables but the Dodgers straight up don't give a shit about paying the capital needed to pull big names and then giving them a blank check, saying "write a number on it"
Soto at the top of that lineup plus them getting reinforcements back with Dustin May due back soon and then Walker Buehler sometime before the postseason?
At some point the Dodgers lineup just because too big to fail.
I still think the Blue Jays are in the picture but I don't see them willingly outbidding both LA and San Diego even though they absolutely could.
BertCorbeau
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Just saw the Austin Riley deal and wow, AA has 4 score players signed for crazy long term deals (8-10)
If we took on the contract of Iglesias, what is a realistic trade for Thor? Like the most I’d be willing to do is Otto Lopez and some smaller pieces
He's the kind of guy that you would normally see go for a mid range prospect and a couple of flyers.
You mention Lopez, but I could see other teams liking a guy like Samad Taylor more (a little further away with more upside if he could ever get the swing and miss corrected). I'd be shocked if Zulueta wasn't the first name that they asked about (he's one of those guys that is 17 on our preseason FG prospect list but is higher now). On the other hand, it wouldn't shock me if Lopez wasn't seen as one of our top 10 prospects.
This is the problem with saying that the Yankees gave up nothing. We have preseason lists and we have BA. There is no variety so we don't know how highly their prospects were valued now (though FG has already written an article suggesting that they really liked them).
For Toronto, risers should include Zulueta, Morris, Eden, Horwitcz, Castillo, Tiedemann (duh), and Juenger
Edit: Didn't see the both
I see Thor as a near 0 asset. He is making 20+ M to be an average starter (bad) but with some potential to pitch better than that as he learns to pitch at lower velocity. While you said what would Thor cost if we took on Iglesias, it could be argued that Thor would actually be the lesser chip in the trade.
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Thor just doesn't interested me all that much. Doesn't feel like that trade moves the needle much, other than providing some security for Kikuchi's potential inconsistency or possibly moving Strip back to the pen.
If that's our big splash, part of me will be happy (I don't want to see Moreno dealt) but it will be hard not to look around and seeing our two main roadblocks in the playoffs being improved.
Should be a fun day.
If that's our big splash, part of me will be happy (I don't want to see Moreno dealt) but it will be hard not to look around and seeing our two main roadblocks in the playoffs being improved.
Should be a fun day.
That depends on how others see him.
FG didn't even have him in their top 34 prospects (AFTER the Chapman deal), so if other teams view him similarly where rising means into the late 20s, early 30s of our pool, he's better to keep.
Keep in mind that our present DH situation is likely time limited. At some point we are going to resolve the catcher situation and we won't be DHing Kirk 3-4 times a week.
Iglesias moves the needle quite a bit though. Adding a 2nd closer to be the setup guy (and one signed for a couple of years).
Scotianhab
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If Kikuchi doesn't start pitching better, his contract is an albatross Roark style. Iglesias isn't on a bad contract at all. It's a little long, but he's worth the money.
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Wow super active deadline for the Jays so far, good to see them have confidence in the team!
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Zur En Arrh
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It's a sellers market.im glad we have smart management who aren't over paying. There also isn't a lot of what we need available and other teams know what we need.
Killer Orcas
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Woke up early on west coast like a kid on Xmas. Hopefully get to see a present under tree soon !!
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It had better not be a lump of Aaron Loup
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Having two full 40-man rosters signed to 8+ year deals sounds like it’s bad for roster flexibility.
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This plus the fact teams are apparently attempting to overcharge us specifically because we are forced to take only vaxed players as almost a "vaxed" tax isn't ridiculous at all.
ah yes but look at all those amazing yankee prospects........
not a single one of them has done dick all when traded. Smfh.
TopChedder
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If we have to pay extra to get a deal done, f*** em. I don’t blame the front office if we don’t do much. We have enough coming to win- and win for a long time. Let the other teams sell the farm.
Suntouchable13
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I think we do have the pieces to win this year, but the bullpen still concerns me. Do we trust a Garcia to pitch the 8th inning in a close playoff game? Who do we fully trust down there except for Romano?
we need to improve the bp. It is absolutely not good enough to go far. Two decent BP pieces and nothing big, I'd agree.
Eyedea
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Think people would be surprised at how effective Syndergaard still is despite the loss of velo. You don't need velo when you induce weak contact with your sinker. Like Jordan Montgomery or Chris Bassitt. His change up is lagging behind which limits his effectiveness against lefties, but the slider/curve could still feature as an out pitch.
The splits are really interesting though. At home he's a groundball pitcher, on the road he's a flyball pitcher. I've mentioned before how his road splits were inflated by a couple bad games in New York and Texas. Curious if this is more of a game calling/pitch sequencing issue.
The splits are really interesting though. At home he's a groundball pitcher, on the road he's a flyball pitcher. I've mentioned before how his road splits were inflated by a couple bad games in New York and Texas. Curious if this is more of a game calling/pitch sequencing issue.
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This all sounds like a narrative to try to explain why they haven't done anything yet, when in reality they... just haven't done anything yet.
Don't we get this stuff multiple times every year until something actually happens?
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