Speculation: The search for a new Head Coach - (Ducks to hire Joel Quenneville: Per Dreger)

[Big Fat Rebound]

Do you not see the inherent problem behind a coach needing such conditions?

Of course I’m aware of it. There’s a reason why I wanted them to avoid it. A mess of their own making

 

[HanSolo]

Of course I’m aware of it. There’s a reason why I wanted them to avoid it. A mess of their own making

Fair. I'm not really reading back through the whole thread.

I had a feeling this was coming and I'm still numb. Really just trying to decide if I can numb myself to how abhorrent I still feel Quenneville's involvement in that situation was and if I can swallow the disgust I'll feel every time I see his face and hear his name.

I really love a lot of the players on this team and have supported this team since childhood. But it's challenging to think, with the way I feel about whether Bowman, Quenneville, or anyone else in that meeting deserves the privilege of working in the NHL, that I can just ignore my team's willing association with the worst scandal in the history of the league.

 

[Arthuros]

Hell, I'll even take a "we spoke to Kyle" as part of that extensive background check. Otherwise, I really hope some media person asks if they spoke to Kyle.

 

[ohcomeonref]

I'm happy to have a truly top tier coach. Kick ass Q

 

[robbieboy3686]

Thats fair and yes it would be ideal to hear it from Beach himself, but I think it's also fair to say his daughter likely did not make something like that up that Beach can easily say "f*** no I didn't" right?

Exactly come on guys!

 

[Arthuros]

Exactly come on guys!

At the risk of a warning...

I think coming on guys might have been part of the problem.

 

[robbieboy3686]

At the risk of a warning...

I think coming on guys might have been part of the problem.

Savage lol

 

[Kalv]

Our "deep research" better include consulting Kyle Beach himself.

If Q's daughters message is true about Kyle Beach giving his bleasing for Q to coach again, then I'd have less problem with this all.

 

[George Binks]

Welcome Q! Let’s turn this team around

 

[Gliff]

Hell, I'll even take a "we spoke to Kyle" as part of that extensive background check. Otherwise, I really hope some media person asks if they spoke to Kyle.

Our "deep research" better include consulting Kyle Beach himself.

If Q's daughters message is true about Kyle Beach giving his bleasing for Q to coach again, then I'd have less problem with this all.

Mixed emotions.
I really hope they did also and that they can say they did and got his blessing, but if they didn't I dont think that is an indictment.

Kyle deserves to never talk about this again to anyone if thats what he wants. Something tramatic happened to my wife before I met her and she has always said one of the worst parts is that being your identity now. Let Kyle live his life.

 

[Sendhelp2Anaheim]

Our "deep research" better include consulting Kyle Beach himself.

If Q's daughters message is true about Kyle Beach giving his bleasing for Q to coach again, then I'd have less problem with this all.

I assume we did reach out, and I hope they address all of this when it’s announced

 

[quackquackquack]

Im disappointed in the hire FOR NOW - I really hope Q spends a good chunk of time in his opening presser to address the Chicago situation and what he's learned.

The thing I'm confident about is the message this sends to the players and fanbase just from a pure hockey perspective. We've had a lot of deniers on this board even when PV has publicly said for over a year that he expects this team to be in the playoffs. He said it again when he fired Cronin. The time is now. We are going to have a big offseason and be in the playoffs next season.

 

[tomd]

Fair. I'm not really reading back through the whole thread.

I had a feeling this was coming and I'm still numb. Really just trying to decide if I can numb myself to how abhorrent I still feel Quenneville's involvement in that situation was and if I can swallow the disgust I'll feel every time I see his face and hear his name.

I really love a lot of the players on this team and have supported this team since childhood. But it's challenging to think, with the way I feel about whether Bowman, Quenneville, or anyone else in that meeting deserves the privilege of working in the NHL, that I can just ignore my team's willing association with the worst scandal in the history of the league.

I admire the depth of your feelings on this issue. Does the courage of your convictions extend to no longer posting in the forum of the team you can no longer in good faith follow? If not, stop posturing.

 

[Static]

 

[Gliff]

This is all I needed to know. Unless they just ignored him, it's safe to say he has their blessing.

This is by far the most important news in this.

 

[Arthuros]

Mixed emotions.
I really hope they did also and that they can say they did and got his blessing, but if they didn't I dont think that is an indictment.

Kyle deserves to never talk about this again to anyone if thats what he wants. Something tramatic happened to my wife before I met her and she has always said one of the worst parts is that being your identity now. Let Kyle live his life.

Okay, in fairness, this came out a couple of minutes ago. So I'm at least a bit relieved.

 

[Big Fat Rebound]

I am curious to see if the crash the pond people really do quit. I doubt it.

Insert the “oh well, anyway” meme.

I think of the two of them, it’s much more likely Felix will bounce (but he privated his Twitter so I have no idea)

 

[DucksRoll]

I said it before: The complaints and boycotts will be minimal. Bowman to Edmonton already proved that as much as some fans will virtue signal over it, most won't care. People can fantasize about guys on the roster refusing to play for Q, but I would suggest it's actually far more likely that guys will be excited to play for him, and more than that: I think he ends up being a draw for free agents because he's well known as an elite coach (whether he still is after three years out of the league remains to be seen).

I keep seeing people talk about him being a danger to the guys in the roster or kids in the minors - that he won't protect them - respectfully, that's ignorant and ridiculous. Look, is he my pick? Nah. I'd have gone with Woodcroft. But I also think the complaints against him are massively overstated. The dude isn't a predator. He's a coach who was well-respected in the league until he mishandled a situation that most of the coaches in the league probably would have handled the same way he did. He claims to have learned from his mistake and Mark Lazarus' article indicates he has put in the work to learn and grow from it. Again, not my pick, but I'm willing to give him a second chance. And even if I wasn't, I'm not going to engage in performative nonsense and stop watching the Ducks play hockey.

 

[HanSolo]

I admire the depth of your feelings on this issue. Does the courage of your convictions extend to no longer posting in the forum of the team you can no longer in good faith follow? If not, stop posturing.

I'm allowed to voice my disappointment. But to answer your question, I had no difficulty with leaving this forum for years when certain posters made me feel I was unwelcome for supporting the VGK so yeah I think I could do it again. You have any more questions for me?

 

[KelVarnsen]

Also, I know it sucks to bring up, but let’s be honest: despite the best efforts of the podcast brigade and some Twitter users and die-hards like us to try and deter it, this is probably the only market in the league that Quenneville could even think about resurfacing in. He can exist in relative obscurity here without being hounded by people not named Derek Lee every night

And let's be honest. I like Derek but he doesn't exactly push people with hard questions either. This hiring will probably get a few days of negative coverage. And if he leads the Ducks to the playoffs, the pond will be full, and no one will say a word about Q other than he is a great coach.

 

[ShadowDuck]

The Ducks did an extensive look into Quenneville's role over the past several weeks, sources told ESPN, which included the team speaking with Beach and other advocacy groups that Quenneville had formed relationships with. The Ducks determined that Quenneville had continued to put in the necessary work to understand how to reform the mistakes from 2010.

Quenneville hired to coach Ducks in NHL return

The Ducks have hired Joel Quenneville as their new coach, marking the former Blackhawks and Panthers coach's return to the NHL.

www.espn.com

 

[Sendhelp2Anaheim]

This is all I needed to know. Unless they just ignored him, it's safe to say he has their blessing.

This is by far the most important news in this.

This is good enough for me to be okay with the hire.

 

[Static]

I may be reading too much into it, but two insiders attaching details to the David carle interview process is really interesting to me. LeBrun went out of his way to say he thinks the interview went well (without qualifying any of the other interviews) and now kaplan noting his interview went for two days.

Just curious if that information is both of them reading into it, or if the sources giving them the information are emphasizing those details, and if so, why?

 

[tomd]

I'm allowed to voice my disappointment. But to answer your question, I had no problem with leaving this forum for years when certain posters made me feel I was unwelcome for supporting the VGK so yeah I think I could do it again. You have any more questions for me?

No more questions. I've enjoyed your posts in the past and will miss them going forward but you are doing the right thing and I admire your courage in leaving. Best of luck!

 

[Rasp]

Massive upgrade on Cronin