Speculation: The search for a new Head Coach - (Ducks to hire Joel Quenneville: Per Dreger)

[S.S. Giggy]

Carle made it clear that he has a young family and was in no rush to leave to the NHL and that’s exactly the outcome that occurred.

I don’t think it’s Pat’s fault or Carle’s ego or anything like that.

It's actually not Pat's fault at all, contrary to popular belief. That's a circumstance outside of Verbeek's control considering where Carle was at in his life and what his immediate priorities are. You can't make a person work for you if they choose not to. It's not the fault of the manager that extended the job offer to someone who outright rejected said offer.

 

[MallardMan]

" I HAVE FIND YOUR LACK OF SHOTS DISTURBING"

Oh. Obligatory

“You don’t know the power of the Duck side”.

 

[70sSanO]

Oh. Obligatory

“You don’t know the power of the Duck side”.

This should be next season’s slogan.

John

 

[NWWisconsinDuck]

From Lebrun this AM in the athletic

Ducks’ coaching search​

Joel Quenneville has had his second interview with the Anaheim Ducks.

The team has also interviewed the likes of Jay Woodcroft and David Carle. The latter signed a new contract with the University of Denver this week, which would appear to take him off the NHL market for now, though according to league sources there’s an “out” in that contract. My impression is that the interview between Carle and the Ducks went rather well, so perhaps something to file away for a rainy day down the road.

My understanding is the Ducks have also had some communication with Rick Tocchet, so we’ll see whether that leads to an interview.

 

[Static]

From Lebrun this AM in the athletic

Ducks’ coaching search​

Joel Quenneville has had his second interview with the Anaheim Ducks.

The team has also interviewed the likes of Jay Woodcroft and David Carle. The latter signed a new contract with the University of Denver this week, which would appear to take him off the NHL market for now, though according to league sources there’s an “out” in that contract. My impression is that the interview between Carle and the Ducks went rather well, so perhaps something to file away for a rainy day down the road.

My understanding is the Ducks have also had some communication with Rick Tocchet, so we’ll see whether that leads to an interview.

That is an odd and interesting tidbit.

 

[Masch78]

Joel Quenneville, what is the perspective with him. I mean, the max he would be a 3y coach, if everything turns out well. This is not so great tbh. But who knows, maybe they reached an agreement with Carle to take over when the Denver contract expires.

 

[NWWisconsinDuck]

I would take Tocchet coaching this team in a nanosecond

 

[JAHV]

Joel Quenneville, what is the perspective with him. I mean, the max he would be a 3y coach, if everything turns out well. This is not so great tbh. But who knows, maybe they reached an agreement with Carle to take over when the Denver contract expires.

My speculation is that Verbeek isn't looking for anything longer than a three-year coach. This assumes that he really likes Matt McIlvane and wants him to take over eventually. I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing - the next coach will be expected to move the Ducks into the playoffs but not necessarily win a Cup.

Also, just a note, I think the average coaching tenure in the NHL has dipped below three years at this point.

 

[Kalv]

From Lebrun this AM in the athletic

Ducks’ coaching search​

Joel Quenneville has had his second interview with the Anaheim Ducks.

The team has also interviewed the likes of Jay Woodcroft and David Carle. The latter signed a new contract with the University of Denver this week, which would appear to take him off the NHL market for now, though according to league sources there’s an “out” in that contract. My impression is that the interview between Carle and the Ducks went rather well, so perhaps something to file away for a rainy day down the road.

My understanding is the Ducks have also had some communication with Rick Tocchet, so we’ll see whether that leads to an interview.

The fact he's not mentioning anything else about Woodcroft seems he might not be a serious candidate anymore

 

[Static]

I would take Tocchet coaching this team in a nanosecond

Tell me, how much do you love dump and chase? I guarantee not as much as Rick tocchet.

 

[Unholy]

Not really a fan of Tocchet, he goes under the list of do not want alongside Tortorella. Hopefully he just goes to Philly

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

This idea that PV is so smart that he knows who he wants to hire 3 or more years down the road (and is making a commitment to them now) is laughable. The future is the future. When it becomes the present you make decisions based on the facts surrounding you at the time.

 

[JAHV]

This idea that PV is so smart that he knows who he wants to hire 3 or more years down the road (and is making a commitment to them now) is laughable. The future is the future. When it becomes the present you make decisions based on the facts surrounding you at the time.

The idea that managers of large organizations don't think about and plan for situations three or more years down the road is laughable. They do, and adjust that plan as the current reality changes.

 

[Big Fat Rebound]

From Lebrun this AM in the athletic

Ducks’ coaching search​

Joel Quenneville has had his second interview with the Anaheim Ducks.

The team has also interviewed the likes of Jay Woodcroft and David Carle. The latter signed a new contract with the University of Denver this week, which would appear to take him off the NHL market for now, though according to league sources there’s an “out” in that contract. My impression is that the interview between Carle and the Ducks went rather well, so perhaps something to file away for a rainy day down the road.

My understanding is the Ducks have also had some communication with Rick Tocchet, so we’ll see whether that leads to an interview.

The David Carle news is encouraging at the very least. Might be good to revisit in another three years or so

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

The idea that managers of large organizations don't think about and plan for situations three or more years down the road is laughable. They do, and adjust that plan as the current reality changes.

Make plans yes. Commit to a guy as a new coach without knowing the roster structure, success, or failure at that point in time, hardly. He isn't hiring a manager of quality control.

 

[Mr Rogers]

Certainly feels to me that Q will be the guy

 

[McDonald19]

I believe 3 year deals are the industry standard for new coaching hires?

 

[Leonardo87]

Certainly feels to me that Q will be the guy

Feeling that also. Need to be prepared.

 

[JAHV]

Make plans yes. Commit to a guy as a new coach without knowing the roster structure, success, or failure at that point in time, hardly. He isn't hiring a manager of quality control.

A hard and fast commitment? No, but that's not what I'm saying. I don't think there's a written or even verbal commitment to give McIlvane the NHL job in a certain number of years. But I don't find it at all implausible that a GM would hire a guy like McIlvane and communicate something more vague, like "I see a great coaching mind in you and we'd love for you to be a part of our organization long-term" and then give that guy goals he'd like to see him meet. It's not exactly revolutionary business practice to hire people with potential and then challenge them to reach that potential while also considering their long-term role in the organization, which involves weighing the risk that the employee will leave if they think their path is blocked.

If Verbeek sees potential in McIlvane and sees him progressing toward that place, it makes complete sense to me that he would prefer to hire a coach that fits a shorter timeline. It does not by any stretch mean that he would refuse to hire anyone else if, for example, David Carle interviews very well and seems like a good fit but needs a five-year commitment. Or if, for example, they hire a guy like Woodcroft and in three years Woodcroft is taking the Ducks to conference finals. It's simply one important factor among many.

Quenneville, despite his baggage, fits that timeline just about perfectly. I think Cronin's hire fit in that timeline as well, but it fizzled quicker than Verbeek wanted, and he pulled the plug early. But I don't think Verbeek is beholden to it, just that it's a preference.

 

[Lord Flashheart]

I would take Tocchet coaching this team in a nanosecond

I would not, that would be terrible.

 

[Bender66]

We already tried RC twice. No need for 3rd time with Tocchet

 

[Gliff]

Certainly feels to me that Q will be the guy

Feeling that also. Need to be prepared.

People have been saying this for over a week and I don't get why.
If it wasn't for 1 random Boston blogger saying it was a done deal noone would be saying this.

We have confirmation that they have interviewed the 3 best candidates (Q is the best coach not working ATM, Woodcroft is the best coach with NHL experience and not any baggage, Carle is the hot coach not in the NHL) and there were no reports anyone but Q was in connection before that confirmation. For all we know they have interviewed 10 people by now.

 

[Dostwall]

People have been saying this for over a week and I don't get why.

tbf, Q is the only candidate we know to have had a 2nd interview.

 

[anezthes]

One Jeff Halpern, please.

Also, if Quenneville is 'Q', then Woodcroft is 'WC'.

 

[Big Fat Rebound]

tbf, Q is the only candidate we know to have had a 2nd interview.

Largely this. Also, you could operate under the assumption that no news is good news and the longer it drags out, the less likely it is, but unless Pat Verbeek has internal sources locked in a dungeon somewhere, you would think we'd be hearing more than just Jay Woodcroft being the only semi-viable candidate left this late in the process.