Speculation: The search for a new Head Coach - (Ducks to hire Joel Quenneville: Per Dreger)

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So, any news on who else has been interviewed or scheduled up interview aside from Q?
No and it’s probably not the most likely that there’ll be a ton of news on this one, maybe the odd tidbit of them having interviewed someone after it’s happened. Maybe, if it’s more of a process, we hear about finalists but not expecting much.

I do have a suspicion, however, that this won’t be a long process and there isn’t much to be heard until Q is inevitably hired in the next week or two. Even from the day Cronin was fired I’ve had doubts about this being a lengthy process like in 2023 and that available candidates weren’t a factor in the decision to make a change and this latest news really only feeds that belief. Targeting Q makes sense of that on a number of levels.
 
Talk about Quenneville is ok in this thread is allowed, as long as it is relevant to him coaching in Anaheim.

Libel is not ok, don’t do it.

Flaming others is not ok, don’t do it.

Questioning the morality and sincerity of the ethics of others is not ok, don’t do it.
Well that’s no fun

But what other potential coach Options would everyone like to see?

I’m still pretty on board with Carle, still curious if we’ll change assistant coaches once we get a head coach named.

They are as much to blame for teams failures as Cronin
 
Nothing yet. But I assure you PV is pissed off the interview got leaked. Unless they leaked it on purpose to see how the fans react.
I think that this was 100% a leak to gauge fan reaction, especially if the “job was offered” has any validity.

If Quenneville has actually done all the stuff MDM posted about to rehabilitate himself, I think it was asinine to not have a media push to get that out ahead of time, regardless of leak status.
 
Well that’s no fun

But what other potential coach Options would everyone like to see?

I’m still pretty on board with Carle, still curious if we’ll change assistant coaches once we get a head coach named.

They are as much to blame for teams failures as Cronin
I think Carle would be a good choice, but has the new guy risk factor, and I think Verbeek is aware that whiffing on a 3rd coach in a row will be a bit dangerous for his job status.
 
This was from an Athletic article from last year Does Joel Quenneville deserve a second chance?



It’s a bit of a double edged sword with him because if he makes a public show of it then he’s accused of being disingenuous and putting on a show, but if he goes about it quietly, which he appears to have done, then it isn’t well known. But he does appear to have worked on this.
Thank you for posting this, it pretty well covers all the feelings I have about Q. I appreciate that he seems to have done the work to atone. I don’t like that he still denied knowing what actually happened when all the reports say he did know. Screams that he may have learned what to do in the future but he’s truly incapable of taking full responsibility for his role. How are the players gonna respect a coach who won’t take full responsibility for his mistakes?

I still would rather he not be hired. Im less against it happening when the report first came out, i wont stop watching the ducks but i wouldn’t give them any money. He would also have the absolute shortest leash possible. We don’t make the playoffs he and Pat would both need to be fired.
 
Nothing yet. But I assure you PV is pissed off the interview got leaked. Unless they leaked it on purpose to see how the fans react.
It probably only plays a small part, if any, but I’d imagine part of the interview process is you want candidates to keep this quiet. And if they let their candidacy leak, it may be a knock against them and the partnership the GM is aiming to have with the coach. Like if you can’t even be tightlipped about that, how much can I trust you?
 
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It probably only plays a small part, if any, but I’d imagine part of the interview process is you want candidates to keep this quiet. And if they let their candidacy leak, it may be a knock against them and the partnership the GM is aiming to have with the coach. Like if you can’t even be tightlipped about that, how much can I trust you?
I don’t recall how leaky the Chicago regime was, he might just be used ti doing whatever he wants. Does anyone remember?
 
The fact that this org would even consider hiring Q--who determined focus on a Cup run took precedence over a child being molested--turns my stomach. I get wanting to win. I get the importance of timing the Ducks' ascension to coincide with the opening of OCVibe, because, you know, money is everything. But I worked as a therapist for several years and I have seen what sexual abuse does to kids. It destroys them. It turns them into addicts and abusers and criminals. Nearly 50% of survivors go one to be revictimized.

I am not the morality police. It's not my job to determine whether Q should ever coach again. I love the Ducks, and have for decades. I was in the building the night they won the Cup and it was one of the happiest moments of my life. But because I know that abuse turns lives into a living hell, and because I know he chose to look away when it was actively happening under his nose, I flatly cannot abide this rumored hiring. If we have to sacrifice wins to maintain organizational decency, so be it.
 
You work for the team though right? Does it not concern you at all that if one his direct reports from the coaching staff were to assault or behave inappropriately towards one of your young coworkers coach Qs track record indicates that he would lobby for the team to prioritize the current playoff push in lieu of actually addressing any workplace safety concerns?
I don’t believe that the Samuelis hiring him is an indication that they would allow him to operate the way he did in Chicago
 
Conspiracy theory post - what if the whole Quenneville thing is just GMPV making it impossible to criticize whoever he DOES hire because “at least it wasn’t Quenneville “?

:sarcasm: (maybe)

Must speak to my character because this has legitimately been my thought process since it initially got out lol. Set up for an uninspiring retread hire but you’ll already be past the bargaining stage by that point
 
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He knew about it, wrote Aldrich a recommendation letter, and the guy used that letter to get a high school job where he molested a high school player. Then said he only learned about it through the media.
This seems to be false. And what he knew is in dispute. More on that below.
Honestly, this might be the best place for Q to go. Zero pressure and the least media attention in the league.

I reserve judgement until it is completely and see how he, PV, and ownership respond to questions about how he has changed since then.

Some people are never going to forgive no matter what he does, and it just is what it is.
If/when Q is hired by the ducks or any other team, there will be a firestorm that I think will blow over pretty quickly.


Here’s the independent report, for anyone who wants to read about just how slimy the situation was, and just how much Quenneville has absolutely not actually owned up to what happened.
I've now read the key parts of the report. I suggest people read it as well, particularly the portion starting on page 38 which details what was known/disclosed. I think the statement bolded above is not supported by the report and subsequent athletic article.

It appears there is a serious disagreement as to what was reported by the victim initially. - read page 42 "John Doe’s and Black Ace 1’s Conversations with Jim Gary" and page 46, Jim Gary's statement. The victim (who was suing the Hawks) claims he made full disclosure to Jim Gary of the actual sexual assault. All other parties recall the victim disclosing that Aldrich was socializing with players (which would be inappropriate/unusual even w/o sexual assault) and engaging in sexual advances (texts, etc,) but no mention of sexual assault.

The key meeting was after game 4 in San Jose. It seems that all parties at the meeting agree that Jim Gary - the only one who spoke with the victim at that time - did not report an actual sexual assault. Quenneville, in particular, denies having knowledge of an actual sexual assault or even the player involved. Page 50. So either the victim did not report an assault to Gary (as Gary claims) or Gary did not report that in the meeting.

In hindsight, we all agree that the Hawks (including Q) should have done more and acted more aggressively to investigate and take action. That being said, I think it is understandable that people would react differently to claims of inappropriate socializing/texts/advances vs an actual sexual assault or a coach demanding sex in exchange for helping that player's career (essentially a casting couch of sorts). And we need to remember this all occurred in 2010, prior to the me too movement which brough a lot of awareness to these situations.

And by all accounts, it seems that Q was not aware of the sexual assault or for that matter the details of what happened. He should have been more curios - but at the same time he expected his superiors would handle the investigation and take action. The reality is that if a proper HR investigation would have been commenced (as it should have), Q likely would have been told by the investigators to not take any further action pending the investigation. That is pretty typical once HR gets involved.

My bottom line in reading the report is that Q should have done more to protect his players, but that primary responsibility for taking action was with his bosses.

The Samueli’s almost certainly signed off to even interview him. You’re probably not going to waste that time interviewing the guy and doing your own due diligence if you’re uncertain what the owners might say. Maybe they’d change their minds if there was significant backlash but probably not IMO(and I don’t think there will be).

Ignoring the moral aspect I don’t think it’s poses much of a risk off-ice like others are suggesting. A team in a much fiercer media market hired someone more culpable and not much came of it. There also little chance of something like it happening again. It really isn’t remotely like the Babcock situation in that sense.
The Samuelis may have signed off - not sure about that. If you interview Q, the first inquiry is about the incident and Q's actions since being fired, some of which is detailed in the athletic article.

For sure the Samuelis will have to sign off hiring Q. By no means does an interview mean they're willing to hire him.

That’s true. He actually verbalized that he felt addressing/looking into it at all would detract from a Cup run. That’s significantly worse than indifference.
Read the report. He denies saying that. But even if he did, he said this in the context of not knowing the victim had been sexually assaulted.

Thank you for posting this, it pretty well covers all the feelings I have about Q. I appreciate that he seems to have done the work to atone. I don’t like that he still denied knowing what actually happened when all the reports say he did know. Screams that he may have learned what to do in the future but he’s truly incapable of taking full responsibility for his role. How are the players gonna respect a coach who won’t take full responsibility for his mistakes?

I still would rather he not be hired. Im less against it happening when the report first came out, i wont stop watching the ducks but i wouldn’t give them any money. He would also have the absolute shortest leash possible. We don’t make the playoffs he and Pat would both need to be fired.
I don't read the article that way.
 
True. I am uncertain how to process this leak when typically the organization would suppress the news that the sun would rise in the morning.

Perhaps it's Q trying to get his name out, to "normalize" himself as a viable candidate? Hope that's all it is.

There was a rumor he was interested in NYR, but this week it was reported the feeling was not mutual. If his name keeps popping up for openings then maybe that's it. It is no secret he feels like he should have been back in the league well before now.
 
The fact that this org would even consider hiring Q--who determined focus on a Cup run took precedence over a child being molested--turns my stomach. .
This is a false statement of what occurred and what the Hawks/Q knew at the time. There was no allegation of child molestation at that time.
 
That Jimmy Murphy guy who reported we’ve already offered the job to Quennville seems like an absolute clown
Correct and I’m supposed to believe that Jimmy Murphy has intricate knowledge of an offer made to a coach that

Friedman
LeBrun
Dreger
Johnston
Seravielli
Pagnotta
Stephens
Weekes
Kaplan

The list goes on

…don’t know about and that one of those people has directly refuted?

Give me a break. I still think with Carle out in Chicago that he’ll end up here
 
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