The Roster Thread, Summer 2024

[Zman5778]

So with the trade back, it's looking like the Necas dream (FWIW) is now dead?

I doubt the "dream" is dead. If Carolina was willing to take 11 for Necas, I imagine they'll be willing to take 14. I truly (for now) believe that the trade back was all about getting 42 as ammo for improving the NHL team.

 

[WeDislikeEich]

Agreed. Doesn't make any sense unless something else is cooking

Same thought. This only makes sense as part of another move. Either they didn’t want to give up #11 for whatever player and feel better giving up #14 after recouping a 2nd. Or they wanted the extra 2nd for another move.

Otherwise this makes no sense at all. No reason to move down and add more picks to the current pipeline.

 

[Zman5778]

Either they didn’t want to give up #11 for whatever player and feel better giving up #14 after recouping a high 2nd. Or they wanted the extra 2nd for another move.

I'm thinking it might actually be both.

 

[WeDislikeEich]

I'm thinking it might actually be both.

Yeah, it could definitely be that too.

 

[Dubi Doo]

So with the trade back, it's looking like the Necas dream (FWIW) is now dead?

No sleep will be lost here.

Which good bottom-sixers can be picked up with our two shiny 2nds?

I'm keeping an eye on Jeannot. Not sure Tampa would trade him here, but Ruff wants someone who can fight.

 

[Diaspora]

I'm keeping an eye on Jeannot. Not sure Tampa would trade him here, but Ruff wants someone who can fight.

He's only worth a 4th -- but like you say, might take an overpay for Tampa to send him here.

 

[Zman5778]

I'm keeping an eye on Jeannot. Not sure Tampa would trade him here, but Ruff wants someone who can fight.

Jeannot has a 16 team NTC that kicks in July 1. Gotta think we're on it.

 

[sabremike]

My dream acquisition:

 

[Dubi Doo]

He's only worth a 4th -- but like you say, might take an overpay for Tampa to send him here.

I dunno. Paul Gaustad went for a 1st. Teams overpay for 4th liners that bring a wanted skillset.

Jeannot has a 16 team NTC that kicks in July 1. Gotta think we're on it.

Ah, the dreaded NTC. Buffalo's biggest nemesis besides themselves.

 

[HOOats]

Jeannot has a 16 team NTC that kicks in July 1. Gotta think we're on it.

This is my 16-team NTC btw, kind of a fun exercise to write it out:
Winnipeg
NYI
NYR
Utah
Toronto
Carolina
Edmonton
Anaheim
LA
Columbus
Ottawa
Washington
Calgary
St. Louis
Minnesota
SJ

 

[Ehran]

This is my 16-team NTC btw, kind of a fun exercise to write it out:
Winnipeg
NYI
NYR
Utah
Toronto
Carolina
Edmonton
Anaheim
LA
Columbus
Ottawa
Washington
Calgary
St. Louis
Minnesota
SJ

This might be a fun summer thread for everyone to work on over the summer months when there is no news happening.

 

[TehDoak]

This is my 16-team NTC btw, kind of a fun exercise to write it out:
Winnipeg
NYI
NYR
Utah
Toronto
Carolina
Edmonton
Anaheim
LA
Columbus
Ottawa
Washington
Calgary
St. Louis
Minnesota
SJ

My NTC List as a Buffalo sports fan:

Happiness
Joy
Contentment
Optimism.

 

[Gras]

I dunno. Paul Gaustad went for a 1st. Teams overpay for 4th liners that bring a wanted skillset.

Ah, the dreaded NTC. Buffalo's biggest nemesis besides themselves.

Goose also went at the TDL not in the offseason

 

[Ace]

I can't watch Adams latest comments until I get home. Did he really say Krebs could be an answer at center? And was the question "how will we know you've failed for the fifth straight offseason?"

 

[HOOats]

I can't watch Adams latest comments until I get home. Did he really say Krebs could be an answer at center? And was the question "how will we know you've failed for the fifth straight offseason?"

He did.

Personally, I can't believe he didn't drop his poker face and start publicly begging the league to give him the 3C that we desperately need.

I'm hoping that he was applying some level of subterfuge, to the dismay of those fans who want to know exactly what is going to happen before it ever happens.

 

[Fezzy126]

I can't watch Adams latest comments until I get home. Did he really say Krebs could be an answer at center? And was the question "how will we know you've failed for the fifth straight offseason?"

I missed this and had to go back because I actually saw people quote tweeting @Gabrielor about this. It was a very quick comment and if you blinked you'd miss it.

At the 12:56 mark of the interview, Lance asked KA how him and his staff felt about the FA and trade market for available centers. Kevin talked about how "in demand" the position is, and how they knew it would be a challenge when they made the Mitts trade. Then at the end of his answer he gave the following brief comment:

"I do get excited about Peyton Krebs' game and where we believe he can get to, we have have prospects in the system..."

I've said for a while, they really like him. It seems to be buying him a lot of time, patience, and trust with management despite the on ice performance.

 

[Chainshot]

Goose also went at the TDL not in the offseason

He also provided a very specific set of skills that Nashville was seeking and utilized extremely well in his time there. His defensive zone starts to offensive zone ends remain shockingly good. They’ve actually gone into why they did it and if you look at Paul’s use while they’re, it was even more heavily slanted.

 

[Gabrielor]

I missed this and had to go back because I actually saw people quote tweeting @Gabrielor about this. It was a very quick comment and if you blinked you'd miss it.

At the 12:56 mark of the interview, Lance asked KA how him and his staff felt about the FA and trade market for available centers. Kevin talked about how "in demand" the position is, and how they knew it would be a challenge when they made the Mitts trade. Then at the end of his answer he gave the following brief comment:

"I do get excited about Peyton Krebs' game and where we believe he can get to, we have have prospects in the system..."

I've said for a while, they really like him. It seems to be buying him a lot of time, patience, and trust with management despite the on ice performance.

Confirmed.

I'm happy about it.

I'm unsurprised that a lot of people hate it.

I like the player, I trust in him.

 

[Dubi Doo]

I missed this and had to go back because I actually saw people quote tweeting @Gabrielor about this. It was a very quick comment and if you blinked you'd miss it.

At the 12:56 mark of the interview, Lance asked KA how him and his staff felt about the FA and trade market for available centers. Kevin talked about how "in demand" the position is, and how they knew it would be a challenge when they made the Mitts trade. Then at the end of his answer he gave the following brief comment:

"I do get excited about Peyton Krebs' game and where we believe he can get to, we have have prospects in the system..."

I've said for a while, they really like him. It seems to be buying him a lot of time, patience, and trust with management despite the on ice performance.

That'd be a risky move. Eekkkk

 

[Chainshot]

This is my 16-team NTC btw, kind of a fun exercise to write it out:
Winnipeg
NYI
NYR
Utah
Toronto
Carolina
Edmonton
Anaheim
LA
Columbus
Ottawa
Washington
Calgary
St. Louis
Minnesota
SJ

They were speculating that Ullmark may not have had Ottawa on the list because of Korpisalo’s contract. He didn’t think they would be interested in spending on a goalie and may have outsmarted himself. That was on one of the editions of 32 thoughts.

 

[Sabre the Win]

I don't mind Krebs being 4C if he can contribute 25-30 points while being hard to play against defensively and pesty.

We need a better option for 3C and I circle back to Morgan Frost.

 

[sabremike]

I missed this and had to go back because I actually saw people quote tweeting @Gabrielor about this. It was a very quick comment and if you blinked you'd miss it.

At the 12:56 mark of the interview, Lance asked KA how him and his staff felt about the FA and trade market for available centers. Kevin talked about how "in demand" the position is, and how they knew it would be a challenge when they made the Mitts trade. Then at the end of his answer he gave the following brief comment:

"I do get excited about Peyton Krebs' game and where we believe he can get to, we have have prospects in the system..."

I've said for a while, they really like him. It seems to be buying him a lot of time, patience, and trust with management despite the on ice performance.

So he admits he decided to make a trade he knew was going to put the team in a real bad spot from a roster perspective (to acquire a redundant luxury at best) and we're supposed to trust him to nail it this offseason?

They were speculating that Ullmark may not have had Ottawa on the list because of Korpisalo’s contract. He didn’t think they would be interested in spending on a goalie and may have outsmarted himself. That was on one of the additions of 32 thoughts.

Around these parts that's called "Pulling an Eric Staal".

 

[TheBarnIsElectric]

So he admits he decided to make a trade he knew was going to put the team in a real bad spot from a roster perspective (to acquire a redundant luxury at best) and we're supposed to trust him to nail it this offseason?

It should tell you they were aware of the downside of the move they made and felt the upside outweighed it. I'm not sure we'd want anything different.

I can't watch Adams latest comments until I get home. Did he really say Krebs could be an answer at center? And was the question "how will we know you've failed for the fifth straight offseason?"

Ugh, textbook taking quotes out of context. What is this, politics?

He mentioned that Krebs could become a good center and that they have prospects, but they "need help for now." He was not saying that Krebs is the answer for now. The part of the quote that made it clear he did NOT think Krebs for next year was the solution was left out.

 

[sabremike]

It should tell you they were aware of the downside of the move they made and felt the upside outweighed it. I'm not sure we'd want anything different.

Which is terrifying given they are desperately attempting to dig themselves out of the gigantic hole they deliberately created, which suggests there's virtually no chance the upside outweighed it..

 

[Sabresfansince1980]

I missed this and had to go back because I actually saw people quote tweeting @Gabrielor about this. It was a very quick comment and if you blinked you'd miss it.

At the 12:56 mark of the interview, Lance asked KA how him and his staff felt about the FA and trade market for available centers. Kevin talked about how "in demand" the position is, and how they knew it would be a challenge when they made the Mitts trade. Then at the end of his answer he gave the following brief comment:

"I do get excited about Peyton Krebs' game and where we believe he can get to, we have have prospects in the system..."

I've said for a while, they really like him. It seems to be buying him a lot of time, patience, and trust with management despite the on ice performance.

It should tell you they were aware of the downside of the move they made and felt the upside outweighed it. I'm not sure we'd want anything different.

Ugh, textbook taking quotes out of context. What is this, politics?

He mentioned that Krebs could become a good center and that they have prospects, but they "need help for now." He was not saying that Krebs is the answer for now. The part of the quote that made it clear he did NOT think Krebs for next year was the solution was left out.

So which is it? He hinted at Krebs as the solution for now or he didn't. I mean, his words mean shit really at this point because one way or another he has to actually get a much better C, and to think he's relying on prospects if not Krebs...