The Rangers toughest player is.......
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Matt Rentfree
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us because we watch this human rights violation nightly
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back afta dis. . .
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Zibby gets hit right from the outset, a clean shoulder hit but dangerous near the boards, and we see Kreider jump in to defend yet hardly can get the job done.
Need tougher players and it comesfull circle from when some felt the league has changed and you don’t need them.
Mandar
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I told myself after the last game I am not going to watch this soft, poorly coached team play again this season. Then I made the mistake of checking my phone and saw 2-2 in the third. Like a mosquito drawn to a bug zapper I tuned in. How the hell did we actually regress? Trying to figure out how much of this is team construction and lack of players in a leadership role (who was our last Captain, was it Callahan??) and how much is coaching? This is disgraceful. Fix it JD at least CBJ had an identity under you.
EdJovanovski
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Actual, definitely Trouba.
But honestly it’s not the players, IMO. It’s a culture. We’ve had this discussion even a decade ago when we were a “tough” team that blocked shots and ground out wins. We called it a “country club culture”. We’re a world class organization and players want to play here, but part of that is because playing for NYR is a lot closer to the lavish life of an actual celebrity (without being recognized in the streets as much) than playing for Dallas or Winnipeg or Carolina, or virtually any other club. Effort seems to always be inconsistent here. Players show up big in contract years. Players start hot their first year and then get comfortable (I don’t mean rooks; Richards, Nash, Gaborik, now Panarin all had their best point per game season as a Ranger their first year in NY). We always seem to have the same issue. Even when we were a “tough” team and made it to the ECF/SCF by playing grinding team hockey, whenever we didn’t play well, and some nights when we still won, the biggest complain was a lack of spine.
But honestly it’s not the players, IMO. It’s a culture. We’ve had this discussion even a decade ago when we were a “tough” team that blocked shots and ground out wins. We called it a “country club culture”. We’re a world class organization and players want to play here, but part of that is because playing for NYR is a lot closer to the lavish life of an actual celebrity (without being recognized in the streets as much) than playing for Dallas or Winnipeg or Carolina, or virtually any other club. Effort seems to always be inconsistent here. Players show up big in contract years. Players start hot their first year and then get comfortable (I don’t mean rooks; Richards, Nash, Gaborik, now Panarin all had their best point per game season as a Ranger their first year in NY). We always seem to have the same issue. Even when we were a “tough” team and made it to the ECF/SCF by playing grinding team hockey, whenever we didn’t play well, and some nights when we still won, the biggest complain was a lack of spine.
Machinehead
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Edge
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In the will hit---has a clue how to drop the gloves and fight category it pretty much comes down to:
1. Lemieux
2a. Smith
2b. Trouba
There really isn't anyone else on the team. For the one who said DeAngelo--he actually fights very well with the caveat--for his size and with the second caveat he hardly throws bodychecks at all. For someone thinking Kreider---he's really just big and strong with an inconsistent hitting game and more of a wrestler in a fight than someone who throws punches. If he ever got into a fight with the likes of a Reaves, Kane, Johnston, MacDermid, Wilson, Chara or Oleksiak and that guy got his hands loose Chris would get his ass handed to him IMO. Chris really doesn't know how to punch---he's just big and strong and tries to outwrestle his opponent. Cuylle already is probably top 10(maybe top 6 or 7) as an 18 year old tough on our team. Paul Thompson in Hartford has a clue as well. Schneider's a maybe. Lindgren?---I really don't know if he can fight---push and shove yeah and he's a willing hitter. Gauthier's kind of a no.
1. Lemieux
2a. Smith
2b. Trouba
There really isn't anyone else on the team. For the one who said DeAngelo--he actually fights very well with the caveat--for his size and with the second caveat he hardly throws bodychecks at all. For someone thinking Kreider---he's really just big and strong with an inconsistent hitting game and more of a wrestler in a fight than someone who throws punches. If he ever got into a fight with the likes of a Reaves, Kane, Johnston, MacDermid, Wilson, Chara or Oleksiak and that guy got his hands loose Chris would get his ass handed to him IMO. Chris really doesn't know how to punch---he's just big and strong and tries to outwrestle his opponent. Cuylle already is probably top 10(maybe top 6 or 7) as an 18 year old tough on our team. Paul Thompson in Hartford has a clue as well. Schneider's a maybe. Lindgren?---I really don't know if he can fight---push and shove yeah and he's a willing hitter. Gauthier's kind of a no.
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Unpredictable1
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I think Rooney has grit and toughness to his game. Not as much as Lemieux now mind you, but so far I like what I seen from him.
Edge
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Schneider will drop them, but he’s not necessarily someone I’d consider an amazing fighter.
But is also begs the question - are talking tough and gritty, or are we talking fighting?
Because if it’s the latter, that’s where as an organization names like Lindgren and Schneider will stand out as being tough to play against, but not necessarily being guys who are going to drop the gloves all the time.
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Well, the Canes just picked up Cedric Paquette for Dzingle, who couldn't find a spot in the top six for the Canes. That dude is hard to play against and has been part of a championship team. He isn't going to fill up the net, but we need a heavy guy who is a pain in the ass to play against. Could have been had for next to nothing.
LORDE
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I'm kind of looking at what some of the heavier teams around the league do----because it's very much about hitting and physical play but they also back it up with guys who fight well and usually these guys can also fit into other roles. Boston would be an example--Vegas and Washington would be others and Tampa Bay for sure now--adding Maroon, Goodrow, Coleman and Schenn pretty much in one year.
