The point total of the top players is a joke

Machinehead

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And the top teams aren't that good anymore either. Any one of like 18 teams can win the Cup. It's just an overly-balanced league.
 

DyerMaker66*

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You're just not a "real fan". Stifling over-coached defensive hockey is where it's at! Creativity be damned!
 

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Wait till expansion teams are added and people will say McDavid is better than Gretzky, when he scores 150
 

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Wait till expansion teams are added and people will say McDavid is better than Gretzky, when he scores 150

Yep, expansion is going to force teams to play younger players or sign less talented guys to fill out a roster. Should open up things.
 

KirkOut

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They should:

make the nets 2 ft taller and wider
make the goalie's pads smaller
take away offsides and icing
force defensemen to play with their stick upside down
invent a time machine and travel back to 1983
 

Machinehead

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They should:

make the nets 2 ft taller and wider
make the goalie's pads smaller
take away offsides and icing
force defensemen have to play with their stick upside down
invent a time machine and travel back to 1983

If you just get the time machine, do we really need the first four things?
 

Sky04

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I'd rather see higher point toals too, even the early 00's had more impressive numbers.
 

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Meh. Just call obstruction/hooking/holding/picks. Power plays will go up, and you'll get your points total increases. The flow of the game will get better. And if they call charging legitimately the defensemen won't have to worry about injuries, so all the stuff that slows the game down won't be needed either.
 

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Meh. Just call obstruction/hooking/holding/picks. Power plays will go up, and you'll get your points total increases. The flow of the game will get better. And if they call charging legitimately the defensemen won't have to worry about injuries, so all the stuff that slows the game down won't be needed either.

The refs job isn't to enforce the rules anymore, it's to make the game even. I think it's obvious at this point that the NHL wants more and more parity. Worse teams have a better chance to win when they're losing 2-1 instead of 4-1
 

BobCole

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Maybe if holding and hooking were called like they're written in the rule book...

This. People have the most elaborate theories about why scoring is down. The reason is literally no more complicated than the fact that the NHL doesn't strictly enforce holding, hooking and interference calls. It would be a different league if they re-calibrated their threshold on enforcement of these three rules.
 

ponder

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And the top teams aren't that good anymore either. Any one of like 18 teams can win the Cup. It's just an overly-balanced league.
Pretty much this, although I don't see it as a negative. Yes, the best teams aren't that much better than the below average teams, and the best players aren't that much better than the below average players, there's a lot of parity in the league now. For me, though, it makes for exciting, unpredictable games, where any team can win, and any player can be the difference maker. I'd personally rather watch this than a league with way less parity, i.e. the NBA where the elite players like LeBron are virtually unstoppable, and the top teams win 65 games while the worst teams win 15.

I do think the intrigue around stars probably has the most commercial appeal, but for me personally I like to watch tight competition between really evenly matched players/teams.
 

Marina

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Pretty much this, although I don't see it as a negative. Yes, the best teams aren't that much better than the below average teams, and the best players aren't that much better than the below average players, there's a lot of parity in the league now. For me, though, it makes for exciting, unpredictable games, where any team can win, and any player can be the difference maker. I'd personally rather watch this than a league with way less parity, i.e. the NBA where the elite players like LeBron are virtually unstoppable, and the top teams win 65 games while the worst teams win 15.

I do think the intrigue around stars probably has the most commercial appeal, but for me personally I like to watch tight competition between really evenly matched players/teams.

I wouldn't go that far.
 

rumrokh

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Don't care. The only difference between now and a decade ago is more powerplays, which is not more entertaining.

And the idea that "any one of like 18 teams can win the Cup," is not supported by facts. Two teams have won four of the last five Cups and the other champion also made it to the finals another time in that span. And the two prior years featured the same two teams in the finals.
The playoffs in 2012 featured a lot of upsets (mostly because of LA's low finish and powerhouse Cup run), but out of the last 30 playoff series, there have been three upsets: Detroit over Anaheim, Montreal over Boston, and NYR over Pittsburgh.
Parity doesn't mean that so many teams have a good shot at the Cup, it just means that you rarely get teams with under 20 losses and it's a little bit easier to rebuild if you know what you're doing.
 
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RaskY

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The league is really tough today. We see players go on hot streaks where they score at a really high rate for a bit but then they slow down. The season is just long and teams settle into a sort of grind. When the season settles in, and we're at that point now - the games really just become a grind. Coaches have to rely on depth and all 18 guys to do their part for a game in January in a league where a team can never have a week off because there's so many tough match-ups.

With that said, Crosby did score 104 points last year. Malkin has scored 109 in 75 games. The Sedins scored 104 and 112 points respectively a few years ago. Couldn't it also partly be that there just isn't a player in the league good enough to score 130 points?
 

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More power plays is not the answer. They need to find a way to increase 5on5 scoring. I swear half the games I watch are so boring until there's a penalty. It shouldn't be that way.
 

hisgirlfriday

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Don't care. The only difference between now and a decade ago is more powerplays, which is not more entertaining.

And the idea that "any one of like 18 teams can win the Cup," is not supported by facts. Two teams have won four of the last five Cups and the other champion also made it to the finals another time in that span. And the two prior years featured the same two teams in the finals.
The playoffs in 2012 featured a lot of upsets (mostly because of LA's low finish and powerhouse Cup run), but out of the last 30 playoff series, there have been three upsets: Detroit over Anaheim, Montreal over Boston, and NYR over Pittsburgh.
Parity doesn't mean that so many teams have a good shot at the Cup, it just means that you rarely get teams with under 20 losses and it's a little bit easier to rebuild if you know what you're doing.

How was the Wild beating the Avs, who won the Central division last year, not an upset?
 

rumrokh

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More power plays is not the answer. They need to find a way to increase 5on5 scoring. I swear half the games I watch are so boring until there's a penalty. It shouldn't be that way.

Even-strength goals per game has been about the same since 1992.
 

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