The Loss of Broberg and Holloway Gripe Thread

[JustNapalmIt]

The dumber part with Holloway is that it seemed like he was actively trying to stay on the team but the team wasn't even opening talks with him, instead prioritizing overpaid veteran trash like arvidsson/Henrique/Skinner. If my employer showed that they didn't even value me enough to talk about a contract extension, and someone came along and offered me double the pay and clearly wanted to make use of my skillset, I'd jump ship too.

Imagine the bolded after 20 games.
Fun

 

[BudBundy]

Because there really isn't any reason to?

A guy that demanded a trade has already secured a $4.6M offer sheet before he even talks to you. What are you supposed to do in that scenario? He pretty obviously isn't taking less money to stay in Edmonton.

As for Holloway, that "no other option" thing is just a silly excuse. Your option would be to wait and sign like every other RFA in the league.

Yep Mr. Holloway, we know you paid your dues and played great in the playoffs. Now just eat your crap sandwich with a smile and watch us sign Jeff fricking Skinner with your money to play ahead of you.

I’d have signed the offer sheet too.

 

[McFlash97]

Jeff Skinner has to go. No 2 ways about it. At this point your just hurting your organizations cap this year keeping this guy in. Management would be neglecting thier duties if they don't see him as a fit. Which they are.

 

[unicornBLOOD]

i'm a bitter, grudge holding, die hard Oiler fan. Even though I get why each guy went after the $$$, and left the Oilers for their own issue(s), I am now a St. Louis Blue HATER. I want that team to lose and keep on losing. I also was hoping that both Holloway and Broberg would struggle and fall on their face.

I saw Broberg as a top pairing potential D, and it looks like that is what he is going to be, it sucks that we blew it with this player. He is good, and is going to be good for a long time, it's gonna be tough to watch him realize that potential with the Blues.

I saw Holloway as middle 6 winger, solid on either roll, able to be a 20-25 goal guy, 40- 60 point guy as his ceiling, and this also looks pretty damn accurate. He's gonna missed here for sure.

The Oilers gambled, trying to save $$ on these RFA deals (and this works 99+% of the time, just not this time - F U Blues), and lost. I check St Louis box scores to see how they did, these 2 are living in my head rent free, and I hate it. I'm going to try and focus on the Oil and their players and forget these $$$ chasing traitors (again - they had reasons and made the correct choice in taking these deals).

 

[Zoupa]

i'm a bitter, grudge holding, die hard Oiler fan. Even though I get why each guy went after the $$$, and left the Oilers for their own issue(s), I am now a St. Louis Blue HATER. I want that team to lose and keep on losing. I also was hoping that both Holloway and Broberg would struggle and fall on their face.

I saw Broberg as a top pairing potential D, and it looks like that is what he is going to be, it sucks that we blew it with this player. He is good, and is going to be good for a long time, it's gonna be tough to watch him realize that potential with the Blues.

I saw Holloway as middle 6 winger, solid on either roll, able to be a 20-25 goal guy, 40- 60 point guy as his ceiling, and this also looks pretty damn accurate. He's gonna missed here for sure.

The Oilers gambled, trying to save $$ on these RFA deals (and this works 99+% of the time, just not this time - F U Blues), and lost. I check St Louis box scores to see how they did, these 2 are living in my head rent free, and I hate it. I'm going to try and focus on the Oil and their players and forget these $$$ chasing traitors (again - they had reasons and made the correct choice in taking these deals).

I don't have anything against the players. They made the obvious decision. I just don't like the Blues management for doing it, lol. So I'm rooting against their team. Although they apparently weren't the only ones. The Blues just offered the most.

 

[guymez]

I don't have anything against the players. They made the obvious decision. I just don't like the Blues management for doing it, lol. So I'm rooting against their team. Although they apparently weren't the only ones. The Blues just offered the most.

I actually dont blame the Blues much at all. They played within the rules.
I put most of the blame on the Oilers management under Holland.
His strategy of "make sure young players are overripe before commiting to them at the NHl level" may have worked fine 20 years ago but its not an approach a team can afford to take now.

Teams need to value thier young players and integrate then into the lineup while they are still cheap.
Thats especially true for this team because they are so top heavy. McDavid, Draisaitl, Bouchard and Nurse are likley to take up almost $50M of cap space.
Maybe if Holland would have rethought his out dated overripe strategy (and worked harder to incorporate those 2 players into the main roster) then those players would still be here.

 

[unicornBLOOD]

I actually dont blame the Blues much at all. They played within the rules.
I put most of the blame on the Oilers management under Holland.
His strategy of "make sure young players are overripe before commiting to them at the NHl level" may have worked fine 20 years ago but its not an approach a team can afford to take now.

Teams need to value thier young players and integrate then into the lineup while they are still cheap.
Thats especially true for this team because they are so top end heavy.
Holland clearly didnt take that approach and if he would have those players would likely still be here.

You're 100% right. Oilers management gambled, and assumed it would work, it did not. Then you add in how they treated both players with playing time and opportunity, it was a no brainer for both of them to be open to and even looking for better deals and better opportunities else where. Broberg got jerked around here pretty good for 2 or 3 years, he wanted no part of this organization long term.

 

[McJadeddog]

Jeff Skinner has to go. No 2 ways about it. At this point your just hurting your organizations cap this year keeping this guy in. Management would be neglecting thier duties if they don't see him as a fit. Which they are.

he has a full NMC, he isn't going anywhere

 

[guymez]

You're 100% right. Oilers management gambled, and assumed it would work, it did not. Then you add in how they treated both players with playing time and opportunity, it was a no brainer for both of them to be open to and even looking for better deals and better opportunities else where. Broberg got jerked around here pretty good for 2 or 3 years, he wanted no part of this organization long term.

Exactly.
Broberg for example is a player that this team invested a lot into.
For Hollands management team to play things like they did was nonsensical.

 

[Zoupa]

he has a full NMC, he isn't going anywhere

He would probably waive it if he starts getting healthy scratched. Not saying he will.

 

[McDNicks17]

Exactly.
Broberg for example is a player that this team invested a lot into.
For Hollands management team to play things like they did was nonsensical.

I feel like it was kind of the opposite.

Holland went so far out of his way to invest as little as he could in the young players that the relationship wasn’t repairable.

 

[guymez]

I feel like it was kind of the opposite.

Holland went so far out of his way to invest as little as he could in the young players that the relationship wasn’t repairable.

At the NHL level for sure....but (as I posted above) it was likely due to his strategy of making sure prospects are over ripe before commiting to them at the NHL level.
He talked about that a ton. That may have been fine 20 years ago before the Cap era but its a bad strategy now.