Speculation: The Jets need Mike Babcock

[Mortimer Snerd]

if Babcock gets to bring his own style and own assistants and completely revamp the structure then I’m all for it.

We all know chevy is going to bring someone in to implement the same vision and systems that have been here for 10 years so this thread isn’t going anywhere.

That would be Babcock.

 

[TS Quint]

Jets fans on here love to find a single scapegoat to blame it all on: Pavelec, Maurice, Wheeler, Scheifele.

That's not the same thing as an employer actively attempting to degrade employees to deflect blame from themselves. It's shameful.

 

[Bladerunner62]

well that's not exactly what happened, chevy was questioning if maurice was the right person for the job in the summer and ultimately gave him the benefit of the doubt with the defense he had had.. you can say he should have just fired him in the summer but saying maurice wanted to quit during the summer is wrong

 

[Ducky10]

I’m a Sutter fan but let’s not forget this was a coach whose team once locked him out and barricaded him from getting into the dressing room.
Not necessarily an endorsement for Babs but many successful coaches have had less than great relationships with their players.

My hesitation with Babcock would be the same as a previous poster mentioned, his outsized ego would come along with him. It would be all about him and it would quite conceivably overshadow the team. Or, his lengthy absence from the league may have taught him some humility.

 

[gojetsgo]

wouldn't we also need to come to agreement with toronto on how much of the 5.875 million contract we take on?

 

[surixon]

I’m a Sutter fan but let’s not forget this was a coach whose team once locked him out and barricaded him from getting into the dressing room.
Not necessarily an endorsement for Babs but many successful coaches have had less than great relationships with their players.

My hesitation with Babcock would be the same as a previous poster mentioned, his outsized ego would come along with him. It would be all about him and it would quite conceivably overshadow the team. Or, his lengthy absence from the league may have taught him some humility.

I really don't care if the players like the coach but I don't want a coach that treats his players like shit either.

Anyhow I would like to find a real good communicator that can explain exactly what he wants the ayers to do on the ice.

 

[cbcwpg]

Has anyone asked Babcock? Honestly, other than ego, why would he want to coach in the NHL?

He's getting paid by Toronto until the end of June 2023. And if the numbers are correct, he's getting paid more to not coach in the NHL than any current coach is getting paid to coach in the NHL.

Sweet deal if you can get it.

 

[WaveRaven]

I'm liking the process so far. Let's get to the end see who is out there and hire the best available candidate. Thats my hope anyhow. A few guys will be canned yet.

 

[LowLefty]

Anyhow I would like to find a real good communicator that can explain exactly what he wants the ayers to do on the ice.

And then you have to actually convince them to do it - which is the hard part.

I think you need a mix of smarts and the skill to influence - Bab's might have the smarts but I don't think he has the influence.

How do you get a bunch of millionaires to work hard within a game plan, most every night? Those guys are hard to find and they don't come cheap.

And I understand it's more complicated than what I am saying - but that's the high level IMO.

 

[surixon]

And then you have to actually convince them to do it - which is the hard part.

I think you need a mix of smarts and the skill to influence - Bab's might have the smarts but I don't think he has the influence.

How do you get a bunch of millionaires to work hard within a game plan, most every night? Those guys are hard to find and they don't come cheap.

And I understand it's more complicated than what I am saying - but that's the high level IMO.

Exactly, which is why I have been on NHL coaching staffs need to be completely remodled. You won't find a person capable of wearing all the hats of what is required.

This team needs someone the players respect enough to buy into the program that the coach is selling.

It's also why I take comparisons to the AHL team lightly. It's easier to get buy in from journeyman players fighting tooth and nail to make a living and hungry prospects doing whatever they can to get to the show.

Trying to motivate millionairs is completely different.

No idea who is actually out there that can turn this group around. I think the young guys would really respond well to Vincent as most everyone that went through the Moose raved about him as a coach. But would Mark and Blake be on board with an inexperienced guy?

I guess in some ways it comes down to which group you really want to form your needs around and if the rest don't get inline you move them out.

 

[pateramus]

Please, a big HELL NO to Babcock. I'm fine if we have a Butthole for a coach, but not this kind of stanky Butthole. I'd prefer giving a shot to a good AHL coach over Babcock.

 

[RustyCat]

Hard no to Babcock. I would prefer an up and coming coach like Mitch Love In Stockton.

 

[RabidOne]

Sutter, boudreau.... Two recent in-season hires that have done V well.

Lots of angst in Vcr about poor practice habits and not starting the game on time. No guarantees Boudreau will be coach next season.

 

[RabidOne]

No matter where Babcock ended up coaching if he was to join the NHL again, he would be the story. He would always draw more interest than the team. And I don't want a coach who thinks he's bigger than the team or the media thinks he's bigger than the team.

As for coaching, did Babcock ever get stuck with a truly bad team? Is he considered a good coach because he is a good coach or did he just luck out and end up coaching a real good Detroit team? And as far as coaching team Canada, my gold fish could have coached team Canada.

And if the rest of the NHL thought he was worthy of coaching again, he would be. Enough coaches have been fired since Babcock got fired that he would have been hired by someone. He hasn't because he's damaged goods.

Gold Fish for coach!!

 

[bustamente]

We already had a coach with Leafs stink on him, look where that got us, no we don't need a recycled coach but rather an assistant that has learned from a successful coach, no Huddy that's not you

 

[pateramus]

Should set up a poll on this thread.

Do you want Babcock as coach:

98% No
2% Yes

Lol

 

[objectiveposter]

take all of the bad traits of torterella and maurice... combine them into one and you have babcock.
jets should offer islanders a draft pick for trotz

 

[JetsFan815]

Should set up a poll on this thread.

Do you want Babcock as coach:

98% No
2% Yes

Lol

If a thread like this had been made about Darryl Sutter last year here it would have gotten a similar response but look at Sutter now. The reality is that these established coaches like Sutter/Boudreau/Babcock/Julien know what they are doing regardless of the fan dislike towards them. If we hire Babcock we are a much better team and people are wondering why they were so against the idea last year.

 

[tbcwpg]

If a thread like this had been made about Darryl Sutter last year here it would have gotten a similar response but look at Sutter now. The reality is that these established coaches like Sutter/Boudreau/Babcock/Julien know what they are doing regardless of the fan dislike towards them. If we hire Babcock we are a much better team and people are wondering why they were so against the idea last year.

The dislike of Babcock isn't the same as Sutter though. He might be a better option than Lowry, sure, but I think we can do a bit better

 

[Johnny HFBOARDS]

Babs if TO is fitting the bill still or we get Barry Long and trade for Bowness!

 

[DRW204]

Lots of angst in Vcr about poor practice habits and not starting the game on time. No guarantees Boudreau will be coach next season.

Is there alot of angst with 22-11-6? And various key players improving their play/production . He also did sign a two year deal.

take all of the bad traits of torterella and maurice... combine them into one and you have babcock.
jets should offer islanders a draft pick for trotz

I actually don't mind Torts most of the time. However with PLD here I doubt it happens. He's a hard ass and definitely has a shorter expiry date to most coaches however I think the lazy play, notably in the dzone from some key players, would not slide from Torts.

 

[Guffman]

We should hire Paul Maurice.

 

[RabidOne]

Is there alot of angst with 22-11-6? And various key players improving their play/production . He also did sign a two year deal.

I actually don't mind Torts most of the time. However with PLD here I doubt it happens. He's a hard ass and definitely has a shorter expiry date to most coaches however I think the lazy play, notably in the dzone from some key players, would not slide from Torts.

Yep. The new GM specifically quoted poor practice habits and the team not starting on time (they have been shellacked a few times lately). And he didnt hire Boudreau.