Iron Balls McGinty
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While it should be true and probably what most of us want, the source is a guy who is a proven CBJ hater. I take anything he writes about Columbus with a grain of salt.
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While it should be true and probably what most of us want, the source is a guy who is a proven CBJ hater. I take anything he writes about Columbus with a grain of salt.
DEF
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The dumbest thing Jarmo has done is not resigning Gavrikov because he wanted too much term and then signing Severson to 8 years.
On another note, CBJ should hire Craig Berube and not as head coach.
On another note, CBJ should hire Craig Berube and not as head coach.
Crede777
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That and the fact that all he said was that ownership is unhappy and Jarmo and JD *could* be on their way out.
Anybody could tell you that.
DEF
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we're way past the point of evaluating jarmo's job performance on a micro level (i.e. individual transactions) – the macro has been a mess and he should probably be fired pretty soon.
that said, since we're talking about defensemen…
1. i'm withholding judgment on the severson contract since a lot of guys initially struggle when they change teams for the first time + he's been on the shelf with an injury for a little bit now. always liked the player when he was in new jersey, think he's a perfect RHD to pair with mateychuk moving forward.
2. gudbranson's been a nice player this year, too. has had a few rough patches (mostly with bean) but is on track to blow away his previous high in points (13 from 21-22, already has 10 through 27 GP) and has the highest TOI/GP of his career. if he settles back into a true third pair role the next two years, he'll actually be a nice contributor.
3. the whole point of getting provorov was to have him be a second-pair guy, but he's sitting on a 23:02 ATOI so far this year which kinda defeats the purpose. not a bad player, but gets less effective the more you lean on him – which pazzy does (likewise with jenner, kuraly and danforth). i think the new GM comes in and flips him for a nice futures-oriented package. jackets will absolutely get more out of flipping him than what they paid to get him.
4. i do think werenski is a legit #1, but that doesn't mean he's a perfect player. i have no issue with him playing huge 5v5 minutes, but he should be PP2 at best. jiricek's ceiling seems higher to me.
5. in hindsight, i'm way more mad at the peeke contract than the gudbranson one. the timing made no sense – they extended him coming off of a 15-point season where he was serviceable but clearly in over his head a full year before he was going to hit RFA status. he was always limited. made no sense to extend him as early as they did, now they're stuck with him.
6. blankenburg is clearly an NHL player and i think they should just embrace playing him on the left side to keep him in the lineup. even as a righty, he'd be a huge improvement there over jake bean.
7. boqvist was really impressive with werenski, but unless he gets a long run as a PP1 guy and more time with werenski, it's hard to see him reestablishing any real trade value. in hindsight, i wonder what the cost would've been to get dach in the jones trade instead of boqvist.
that said, since we're talking about defensemen…
1. i'm withholding judgment on the severson contract since a lot of guys initially struggle when they change teams for the first time + he's been on the shelf with an injury for a little bit now. always liked the player when he was in new jersey, think he's a perfect RHD to pair with mateychuk moving forward.
2. gudbranson's been a nice player this year, too. has had a few rough patches (mostly with bean) but is on track to blow away his previous high in points (13 from 21-22, already has 10 through 27 GP) and has the highest TOI/GP of his career. if he settles back into a true third pair role the next two years, he'll actually be a nice contributor.
3. the whole point of getting provorov was to have him be a second-pair guy, but he's sitting on a 23:02 ATOI so far this year which kinda defeats the purpose. not a bad player, but gets less effective the more you lean on him – which pazzy does (likewise with jenner, kuraly and danforth). i think the new GM comes in and flips him for a nice futures-oriented package. jackets will absolutely get more out of flipping him than what they paid to get him.
4. i do think werenski is a legit #1, but that doesn't mean he's a perfect player. i have no issue with him playing huge 5v5 minutes, but he should be PP2 at best. jiricek's ceiling seems higher to me.
5. in hindsight, i'm way more mad at the peeke contract than the gudbranson one. the timing made no sense – they extended him coming off of a 15-point season where he was serviceable but clearly in over his head a full year before he was going to hit RFA status. he was always limited. made no sense to extend him as early as they did, now they're stuck with him.
6. blankenburg is clearly an NHL player and i think they should just embrace playing him on the left side to keep him in the lineup. even as a righty, he'd be a huge improvement there over jake bean.
7. boqvist was really impressive with werenski, but unless he gets a long run as a PP1 guy and more time with werenski, it's hard to see him reestablishing any real trade value. in hindsight, i wonder what the cost would've been to get dach in the jones trade instead of boqvist.
Boqvist wont get any real trade value until he can show that he's not injury prone. I get flashbacks to Murray, skilled defenseman(not saying Boqvist is on his level) but you can automatically assume that hes not going to play in 25%+ of the games every season. (same could be said of Laine now too)
But if Boqy could get a couple of full seasons in, I think he could be VERY good offensive minded Dman
That's the point of his "job" here. He's not supposed to be a long term solution unless Mateychuck and Co bust out. He's probably going to get flipped next trading deadline and right now we probably will flip a 1st
THANK YOU!!!! SOMEONE FINALLY GETS IT! People whine about Severson/Elvis/Gudbranson's contracts but THIS IS THE ONE that boggled my mind. He did show promise but it wasn't OMG HES GONNA BE A #1RHD LETS LOCK HIM DOWN NOW skilled. He got signed way too early and the premium for signing him if he did become Gavrikov like wasn't worth the cost to get him "cheap". He's a bottom 4 meat and potatoes Defensive Dman and has a use but its not 2.75mil use. He still has trade value but its gonna require 50% hold but its better than a buyout.
I love Blanks but really at his best he's really the perfect scratch player for the league. He's your "accountability" when someone wants to get lazy at practice/in game and can play either side. He just plays too hard for his size but if he's the 7th man he can come in once every 4-5 games, get some highlight reels, embarrass the person he scratched and heal up.
Honestly this feels like a Portzline proxy article. Those two are good friends and sometimes to maintain your access you can have a "friend" publish something that YOU wanna say to the public.
Peeke is subject to a U-26 buyout, which is only 1/6th of the cap hit over double the term. So he would actually be significantly cheaper to buyout than to retain. Unless the retention is small.
I can see Blanks playing about half the games as a way to keep his body fresh and provide us a spark. Playing once every 4-5 games is too little for such a good player.
Portzline has said all of those things to us many times, there's nothing forbidden in there.
homie's getting a free trip to alex wennberg island this summer
he was awesome in the second half of last season and he was awesome once they put him with werenski this season.
even then… jiricek's got one spot locked down, severson has another locked down, and i can't see this current regime scratching gudbranson. the only way boqvist sticks around long-term is if a new front office regime comes in and is high enough on him to scratch gudbranson.
Iron Balls McGinty
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or Garrioch was bored and didn't have anything good to write that day so he decided to regurgitate information we already knew.
koteka
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Or they want to play a different style and try to move Severson.
full ntc on the first half of his deal.
doesn't mean they can't try, but it's not exactly something that a new front office can plan for.
koteka
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Does he want to spend his career rebuilding? Or maybe he fits a good team looking for a 2RD as they are nearing the end of their window (so they are less concerned with length if the contract). Plus we might have a new front office and another new coach next season.
I wouldn’t expect anything back and we might have to sweeten a little. Montour and Pesce are RD UFAs.
still not really something that a new front office can plan for. i also think he's a better player than he's shown here (limited sample, bad team, new environment) and would be a really nice initial partner for mateychuk next year.
i'd rather keep severson or bet on boqvist than bet $70 million on brandon montour not turning back into a pumpkin after leaving florida, personally.
He literally just signed this offseason, it's fair to say he knew what he was getting himself into..
koteka
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I don’t mean we sign a UFA RD. I mean that is the competition on the free agent market if a team is looking for a right D. I would see it as the new Jackets management team realizes Severson isn’t a fit here (and Severson is willing to move on), and we will run with Boqvist, Jiricek, Gudbranson, and Blanks next season.
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His agent probably had a few pieces of advice for him. They might have been:
1) Don't look a gift horse in the mouth
2) Take the money and run
3) Praise Jarmo
He knew exactly what he was getting into. A contract that was too rich in AAV and far too long in term for a player of his abilities. He would have been a fool to turn it down.
koteka
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Knew what he was getting himself into? There is a joke about Babcock that would be perfect here, but I haven’t come up with it yet. Where is @Johansen2Foligno ?
That isn't going to happen, not a tradable contract.
It's also not a different style, lol. Boqvist and Severson are both offensive D, one just has a contract you'd like to get rid of.
koteka
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I’d say Severson generates offense through passing and Boqvist has a better shot and is a better skater. Severson has better size but I don’t know that he uses it effectively.
severson is definitely a better skater and is more of a two-way guy. boqvist gets lumped in with other small offensive defensemen who are good skaters, but his skating isn't as dynamic as you'd hope it would be given his size. he's good on the rush but has struggled to get to pucks quickly.
i think this board definitely underrates severson because he made a few big mistakes in a small sample size before getting hurt. on talent, he's a legit top four guy and he plays a well-rounded style that can mesh with any type of partner. he's a good piece and is better than what he's shown.
He signed to a team, who were still clearly rebuilding. Obviously he was hopeful that we were on the tail end of the rebuild(which we still could be) but it's not like he thought he was signing with a contender, nor was he looking to sign with a contender.
koteka
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He took the most money he was going to get. And he negotiated pretty good NTCs so he doesn’t need to move unless he is willing.
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