So you fire him for things that have been largely out of his control?
Plenty of failures have been in his control. They are also scenario's created by him to begin with. Hes had time to rebound from those depatures and we are on our way to another disasterous season. GMs have been fired for much less, its how the buisness works. Sometimes it takes a new set of eyes to see it without any attachment amd make some changes
Like what? I want examples. What failure under Jarmo's control put them in this position? I agree the coaching hire was not great but look at the list of available coaches that was put together in Portzline's article over the summer and tell me who you think would be doing a better job.
He kept Panarin, agree with it or not he ran it out and got nothing for it.
I’m not going to spend a lot of time rehashing many things already said, but I’d refer you to my original post on the defense corp thread I started. I will add that he has blown the coaching hires - 100% under his control - for four consecutive go rounds. It began with convincing Torts to stay when he didn’t want to be here his final season (with one consequence being the departure of PLD) to the Lars hiring, followed by the Babcock hire/fire to being left with no choice but to hire Vincent. That’s not all, but enough
For the record I really wanted Spencer Carbery. I don't think he was ever a realistic possiblity, but he or Roy and I would've been happy. Roy brings the hard ass coach but cares about his players attitude that Torts has.
Werenski had absolutely earned the money he was given by his play prior to his contract signing. It was also seen as important to retain talent.
I didn't like the Bjorkstrand move but we don't know what options were available to clear up space in a hurry after signing Gaudreau.
What matters is the process. Results aren't necessarily replicable since so much of it comes down to luck in a 10-20 game sample size.
Werenski was important to retain but not at that figure. He's not living up to dollar amount either, it's concerning they threw that kind of cash at him as if that would turn him into a complete dman like Jones was for Columbus.
Provorov and Severson both were solid top-4 guys for their respective teams before coming to Columbus. The nature of filling gaps via free agency is it's expensive. But they clearly needed to add two top-4 guys over the summer and couldn't just wait a few years for the drafted guys to develop.
The alternative would have been to properly plan and trade for some adequate replacements while also drafting dmen. Jarmo knew Jones and Savard were moving on, he had two years to find better players but instead he banked on the kids last year and that failed so badly he had to panic sign Severson and Gudbranson. That doesn't scream GM with a plan.
If we're talking about Boqvist - the plan was for him to put on strength in the summer before he came to camp which he neglected to do.
Well its pretty obvious right now Jarmo's original target was Chychrun. When they signed Provorov and retained money it was similar to Chychrun's AAV. Since they lost the Chychrun sweepstakes they went into another direction. I wouldn't at all be shocked if FO internally had a designated point price target at around 4-5mil with 2-3 years. Anything over that wouldn't be considered as the past few years they dropped significant draft capital and have several LHD in the pipeline. Therefore they needed a Gavy replacement to hold over until Mateychuck or one of the young LHDs were ready to go. Gavy was above the point price AAV and term which is why there was no effort to continue attempting to resign and instead Jarmo essentially just moved back 30 spots for a 2 year rental or an emergency LHD vet if Mateychuck busts out.
I think the Severson & Provorov signings were too much too soon. The team wasn't ready for the final pieces to become a contender. Signing Provorov alone for two years would have added some veteran presence to the lineup without saddling the team with an 8 year deal for Severson which will probably prevent the Jackets from re-signing Prov if they wish. I think this is another example of Jarmo trying to shortcut building a competitive team.
Yea were gonna have to disagree on Werenski > Jones thing. Zach sure as hell isn't taking the reins by himself either. He looks soft and hesitant in his own zone this year.
Agree with most of this. Disagree as to Z’s contract, it made sense at time but Z has regressed due to injuries. Have no issue with Gudbranson the player, but the contract was “way way” too much. Otherwise agree on all other points. JK’s moves for players “as billed” could be made by any of us. He earns his pay by projecting what players will be in year 2, 3 etc of a contract, and how they fit “the plan” - whatever that is??!! On this last point, imo JK has missed badly w recent decisions (not counting last 2-3 drafts). Maybe too isolated, too small a sample, but Severson just isn’t very goo; combined effect of term and AAV only amplify that, and we aren’t in “win now” mode anyway. I agree withe concept that many recent moves look to be attempts to shortcut the rebuild, not to fit a longer-term plan.
I agree that he is supposed to project players 2-3 years in advance, but he isn't a fortune teller. He basically looks at their body of work and makes a reasonable guess. I think there are some players where his guess is reasonable (Gaudreau, Laine, Werenski, Provorov, Boqvist, Kuraly) and some where his guess is - in my opinion - not (Merzlikins, Gudbranson, Roslovic, Peeke).
