Injury Report: The Injury Thread

[Stephen]

I don't understand why we're calling up Hildeby?

Artur is like 2 months younger than him, has better numbers, and is also waiver-eligible. It's not like Hildeby put up good numbers when he was here either. He put up a .869 save percentage and is now the worst Marlies goaltender out of Artur/Murray/Hildeby.

Artur hasn't lost a game in regulation all season for the Marlies. Give him a shot.

I think Artur will get his chances, but maybe they feel like Hildeby is a big goalie who plays like Stolarz and Woll so the adjustment the team has to make is going to be less than in front of a smaller reflex goalie (I don't know his tendencies, just spitballing).

 

[Divine]

I think Artur will get his chances, but maybe they feel like Hildeby is a big goalie who plays like Stolarz and Woll so the adjustment the team has to make is going to be less than in front of a smaller reflex goalie (I don't know his tendencies, just spitballing).

Personally Hildeby has been playing awful. He plays like a bigger Samsonov. Loses his angle often and then slides all over the place.

I don't trust him in an NHL net right now. His stats have been declining every start in the AHL. He started off well and now he's under .900 in the AHL. With 2 sets of back to backs coming up I would have preferred Artur or Murray, but I can see why they wouldn't want to call up Murray because he's not waiver-exempt. So if the injury is short-term it's not worth risking losing Murray over, who is also playing well in the AHL right now.

 

[Stephen]

Personally Hildeby has been playing awful. He plays like a bigger Samsonov. Loses his angle option and then slides all over the place.

I don't trust him in an NHL net right now. His stats have been declining every start in the AHL. He started off well and now he's under .900 in the AHL. With 2 sets of back to backs coming up I would have preferred Artur or Murray, but I can see why they wouldn't want to call up Murray because he's not waiver-exempt. So if the injury is short-term it's not worth risking losing Murray over, who is also playing well in the AHL right now.

Isn't Murray also hurt?

Maybe they can call him up and not disturb whatever the Marlies have going for them.

 

[Divine]

Isn't Murray also hurt?

Maybe they can call him up and not disturb whatever the Marlies have going for them.

I'm not sure the extent of the injury but I believe they'll have to put him on waivers on the way down. It's not worth losing Murray over if the injury is short-term though because then if we have another long-term injury we don't have him as a safety net.

 

[budzz]

The only reason Hildeby's numbers are so bad is the 1 stinker game we had against Columbus where he let in 6. Columbus has done that to a few teams. Might have even affected him after being back sent down. Wasn't long ago everyone was screaming to "unleash the Hilde-beast" and now he's fodder? He's had an nhl taste and deserves the next shot.

 

[ponder]

Although I’d personally rather see Artur get a shot as backup, a possible reason they’re going Hildeby - Artur has only played 9 games in North America, period. They may figure he’s adjusting to enough already, and want to keep him with one (development focused) team vs. calling him up.

 

[cyris]

Although I’d personally rather see Artur get a shot as backup, a possible reason they’re going Hildeby - Artur has only played 9 games in North America, period. They may figure he’s adjusting to enough already, and want to keep him with one (development focused) team vs. calling him up.

This is it exactly. They are just doing what they see as protecting their prospect. Similar to last season when Hildeby was called up but Jones still played both halfs of a back to back.
I probably would have preferred to see AA here but I understand why the team is going in this direction.

 

[Divine]

Although I’d personally rather see Artur get a shot as backup, a possible reason they’re going Hildeby - Artur has only played 9 games in North America, period. They may figure he’s adjusting to enough already, and want to keep him with one (development focused) team vs. calling him up.

He was drafted in 2020. At some point you have to give him some NHL games. He can learn what the NHL is about.

We’ve seen Hildeby. He played 2 games and got lit up in 1.

 

[-DeMo-]

He was drafted in 2020. At some point you have to give him some NHL games. He can learn what the NHL is about.

We’ve seen Hildeby. He played 2 games and got lit up in 1.

so one poor game is the end of a goalie? like c'mon Hildeby played great last season and 8 games this year weather good or bad is not enough sample to just make a switch, the plan this year was for Hildeby to get a few NHL games when one of our goalie's got hurt and so they should continue with that plan.

 

[Divine]

so one poor game is the end of a goalie? like c'mon Hildeby played great last season and 8 games this year weather good or bad is not enough sample to just make a switch, the plan this year was for Hildeby to get a few NHL games when one of our goalie's got hurt and so they should continue with that plan.

It's not one poor game, he's not even averaging .900 in the AHL. If it was one poor game and then he went down and lit it up, fine, he deserves to be called up.

Instead, it's one poor game - followed by going to the AHL and being the worst goalie on the Marlies to being rewarded with a call up? We have 2 back to backs coming up so it's not even like he'll ride the bench, he's likely to play unless we're risking an injury prone Woll on back to back nights twice in a week.

The last game he played in the AHL he got pulled with a .826 save percentage.. and so now we're going to give him an NHL start? Three of his last 4 AHL starts were under an .876 save percentage.

We're calling up a goalie who's actively struggling in the AHL recently, who was just pulled in his last game. I'm assuming you haven't been following him?

The only way you can rationalize this is that Stolarz is basically healthy and will be ready by Sunday. Otherwise, you're risking just throwing away games. Hildeby definitely didn't earn this call up with his recent play. Artur is 8-0-1, hasn't lost in regulation all season, and is rocking an .929 save percentage. If there's even a chance that one of them has to play, I'd rather it be AA.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

 

[-DeMo-]

It's not one poor game, he's not even averaging .900 in the AHL. If it was one poor game and then he went down and lit it up, fine, he deserves to be called up.

Instead, it's one poor game - followed by going to the AHL and being the worst goalie on the Marlies to being rewarded with a call up? We have 2 back to backs coming up so it's not even like he'll ride the bench, he's likely to play unless we're risking an injury prone Woll on back to back nights twice in a week.

The last game he played in the AHL he got pulled with a .826 save percentage.. and so now we're going to give him an NHL start? Three of his last 4 AHL starts were under an .876 save percentage.

We're calling up a goalie who's actively struggling in the AHL recently, who was just pulled in his last game. I'm assuming you haven't been following him?

The only way you can rationalize this is that Stolarz is basically healthy and will be ready by Sunday. Otherwise, you're risking just throwing away games. Hildeby definitely didn't earn this call up with his recent play. Artur is 8-0-1, hasn't lost in regulation all season, and is rocking an .929 save percentage. If there's even a chance that one of them has to play, I'd rather it be AA.

Again that’s 6 starts in the AHL so we should completely transform our plan going into the year because he has had 3 -4 poor games that’s not enough maybe the main issue is that he’s only played 8 games this year and can’t get into a rhythm. 8 games played by a week before Christmas was probably not the best way to get him into game shape… to start the year. It was the same with Woll last year when he came back from injury everyone was saying how terrible he was but he only played 3 games in the first month back from his injury of course he’s not going to be in mid season form.

 

[notbias]

I don't understand why we're calling up Hildeby?

Artur is like 2 months younger than him, has better numbers, and is also waiver-eligible. It's not like Hildeby put up good numbers when he was here either. He put up a .869 save percentage and is now the worst Marlies goaltender out of Artur/Murray/Hildeby.

Artur hasn't lost a game in regulation all season for the Marlies. Give him a shot.

More pro experience (SHL, AHL, and NHL), more time in NA, further along in development (we should see what we have with him), and AA will likely play more during this stretch (good for development).

Those are my assumptions.