GBU The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly - Welcome Back Jack, Don't Let the Door Hit You on the Way Out... (03.10.2022)

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Title: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly - Welcome Back Jack, Don't Let the Door Hit You on the Way Out...
Number: 2875827
Date: Mar 10, 2022 at 9:43 PM
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Chainshot - Mar 10, 2022 at 9:43 PM

The Good:

- WINNING!
- Anderson was first star. Great game. Great tribute for his 300th.
- Tuch's ENG by outracing some ex-Sabre.
- Krebs early goal was a beauty. Hino's pass was dynamite.
- Teams that don't like each other? So much fun.
- Fights!
- VO RIPS one and places it perfectly.
- Samuelsson noticeable, especially playing on the right after Fitz went out.
- PKing is life.
- Signs of life from the fans:

The Bad:

- Asplund getting hurt after having a great defensive first period.
- Fitz getting hurt, potentially by Kolesar's douchery.

The Ugly:

- Officiating. Seemed like they really wanted to have the narrative be Jack coming back to Buffalo and winning.

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Paxon - Mar 10, 2022 at 9:45 PM

The crowd was awesome

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oldgoalie - Mar 10, 2022 at 9:46 PM

The Good:

- WINNING!
- Anderson was first star. Great game. Great tribute for his 300th.
- Tuch's ENG by outracing some ex-Sabre.
- Krebs early goal was a beauty. Hino's pass was dynamite.
- Teams that don't like each other? So much fun.
- Fights!
- VO RIPS one and places it perfectly.
- Samuelsson noticeable, especially playing on the right after Fitz went out.

The Bad:

- Asplund getting hurt after having a great defensive first period.
- Fitz getting hurt, potentially by Kolesar's douchery.

The Ugly:

- Officiating. Seemed like they really wanted to have the narrative be Jack coming back to Buffalo and winning.

So sad that NHL’s fairy tale of Jack’s return was a nightmare instead. f*** this league and their bullshit officiating.

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My Cozen Dylan - Mar 10, 2022 at 9:47 PM

My first home game in 4 1/2 years. Amazing all around.

Tuch and Krebs both scoring was perfect. Won the trade.

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Chainshot - Mar 10, 2022 at 9:47 PM

Here you go Jack -



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debaser66 - Mar 10, 2022 at 9:48 PM

Poetic justice night!

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The Blunder Years - Mar 10, 2022 at 9:48 PM

Did we break the curse?!?!

Just smothered our former “savior”… the player we DESTROYED our franchise for. For the first time in awhile It legitimately feels like we are on an upswing. Our team is gelling, the players who should be scoring are, and we have so much talent in the pipeline.

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5 Minute Major - Mar 10, 2022 at 9:49 PM

The Good: Jack coughing up the puck and our new leader salting the game away. It was poetic.

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milwaukee - Mar 10, 2022 at 9:50 PM

You love to see it.

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TheMistyStranger - Mar 10, 2022 at 9:51 PM

Did we break the curse?!?!

Just smothered our former “savior”… the player we DESTROYED our franchise for. For the first time in awhile It legitimately feels like we are on an upswing. Our team is gelling, the players who should be scoring are, and we have so much talent in the pipeline.

To piggy back on this: the guys with the expiring contracts heading into UFA are NOT key players of this team, and will almost certainly be replaced by young bluechippers.

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Buffaloed - Mar 10, 2022 at 9:52 PM

Might as well have this thread live too.

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milwaukee - Mar 10, 2022 at 9:52 PM

#FutureCaptain

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WhoozYerrDaddy - Mar 10, 2022 at 9:53 PM

Once again, Eichel leaves Key Bank Arena after losing a game.

Just like the last six years.

Should be used to it by now.

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tsujimoto74 - Mar 10, 2022 at 9:54 PM

Missed this one (will definitely go back and watch later), but watched the highlights.
Tuch out-muscling Eichel for the puck en route to getting the empty netter to seal it was just *chef's kiss*

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sabremike - Mar 10, 2022 at 9:55 PM

I think I speak for all the men on this board tonight:


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Chainshot - Mar 10, 2022 at 9:55 PM

The crowd was awesome

Not only that, they gave them something good. This fanbase will come back, just play like they care.

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stokes84 - Mar 10, 2022 at 9:56 PM

Did we break the curse?!?!

Just smothered our former “savior”… the player we DESTROYED our franchise for. For the first time in awhile It legitimately feels like we are on an upswing. Our team is gelling, the players who should be scoring are, and we have so much talent in the pipeline.

Definitely some cathartic exorcising of demons tonight. Felt good man.

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ISeeStars - Mar 10, 2022 at 9:57 PM

The only thing this game missed was the Eichel stick smash against the goalpost after chasing Tuch for the finisher.

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enthusiast - Mar 10, 2022 at 9:58 PM

Hell yeah

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Samsonite23 - Mar 10, 2022 at 9:58 PM

Bye Felicia

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MarkusKetterer - Mar 10, 2022 at 9:59 PM

G:
- Krebs and Tuch scoring
- Victor’s snipe
- one actual fight and one hugathon
- #300 for Anderson
- my stream finally stopped being choppy

B:
- one sided officiating

U:
- Kolesar’s cheap shots

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Chainshot - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:00 PM

Find someone in life you celebrates what you do the way Alex Tuch celebrates what his teammates do.

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joshjull - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:01 PM

Jack is being a complete baby in the post game presser.

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Paxon - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:01 PM

LOL Eichel just salted the fans bigly

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La Cosa Nostra - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:01 PM



Eichel is a salty bitch. Hahahaha what a clown, thank you Adams for moving this prick.

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Jacob582 - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:03 PM

Good
Three stars: Krebs, Tuch and Anderson (300 wins!)

The ESPN broadcast was top shelf. They had great cameras. Showed parts of the game we don't see on MSG. Superior microphones - heard lots of crowd noise and even player communication.

Dahlin wearing the A

ENG

Team staying on the ice to celebrate with Andy.

Bad
Me wanting Cozens to block that shot with his face

Ugly
Refs
Kolesar

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joshjull - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:03 PM






He is the bitch many thought he was.

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ForsakenSabre - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:04 PM

As someone who went to his first game and went nuts when he scored his first goal. f*** that loser

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5 Minute Major - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:05 PM

Jack is being a complete baby in the post game presser.

What did the little bitch say?

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EichHart - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:05 PM

I'm officially burning my Eichel Jersey, **** that guy.

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debaser66 - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:05 PM

Jack is being a complete baby in the post game presser.

where can I watch the baby

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ValJamesDuex - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:05 PM

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Hockey was back in Buffalo tonight. I could smell the sweat from here. Bottle it and keep it going!

300 for Anderson!

simple formula...
Get this F'in crowd back into the dump every night
Play hard ALL night!
Stay on plan KA and keep Pegs from interfering

The Crowd! Not had energy like that in two years

Fitz's courage taking on 40 extra pounds, Hayden for playing hard

B
F off to the national media that came to town for this one and tried to promote a narrative
Trying to stay positive, but not liking Mitts right now, he may need a change
Loosing Asplund and Fitz
3 cheap shot punches to Fitz's head

U
Refs were plainly trying to give Vegas playoff help until they couldn't anymore

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ISeeStars - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:06 PM

Hahahaha, Eichel showing everyone exactly why he is no longer the captain of this team.

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tsujimoto74 - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:06 PM

Jack is being a complete baby in the post game presser.

And here is a list of all the people who are surprised by that:










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joshjull - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:06 PM

What did the little bitch say?

Look above I posted it

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MayDayMayDay - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:07 PM

Those post game presser tears are delicious lol. Somebody needs his diapey changed. If it wasn't for hockey, Eichel would be selling DirecTV subscriptions for a living. What a f***in brat. Go f*** yourself Jack.

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Dex - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:07 PM

The Good Great: Jack coughing up the puck and our new leader salting the game away. It was poetic.

Fixed that for you

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Djp - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:08 PM

I'm officially burning my Eichel Jersey, **** that guy.

There wasn’t a pregame ceremony of Eichel Jersey burning.

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sabremike - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:08 PM



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debaser66 - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:08 PM

I'm officially burning my Eichel Jersey, **** that guy.

burning toxic waste is bad for the environment

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tsujimoto74 - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:09 PM

I'm officially burning my Eichel Jersey, **** that guy.

Turn it into a Tuch jersey! Just gotta slap an 8 in front of the 9 and cover of the nameplate, and boom! Now you've got a jersey you can be proud of.

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joshjull - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:09 PM





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old kummelweck - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:09 PM

Jack is being a complete baby in the post game presser.

At least he's consistent. I'm just glad this game is over and the Eichel era is officially over.

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ISeeStars - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:11 PM

I think he could've got a fair amount of fans to cool off the hate by acting mature through the process and interviews but he went ahead and torched that idea to the ground today. He is now among the most disliked athletes in Buffalo with those immature comments.

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stokes84 - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:11 PM

Maybe he was the problem

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Digable5 - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:11 PM

He is the bitch many thought he was.

Because we cheer for heart and effort. That's something we didn't see you give in 7 years.

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tsujimoto74 - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:12 PM

He is the bitch many thought he was.

Hilariously out of touch. Jack could've been a king in WNY just like Josh Allen is. Instead, well.

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enthusiast - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:12 PM

He is the bitch many thought he was.

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milwaukee - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:12 PM



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debaser66 - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:13 PM

you never win anything with a guy like that as your "leader"
no class no heart just skill

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old kummelweck - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:14 PM

someone find me that Eichel presser.

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ValJamesDuex - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:15 PM

someone find me that Eichel presser.

coming up on wgr next

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debaser66 - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:16 PM

someone find me that Eichel presser.

yes please.. its 4am , I can't sleep before I hear that presser

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Paxon - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:17 PM

Because we cheer for heart and effort. That's something we didn't see you give in 7 years.

The fans haven't had anything worth cheering for since the crucial stretch run that guaranteed us Eichel

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Fjordy - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:17 PM

Hot game

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joshjull - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:18 PM

someone find me that Eichel presser.

here are the quotes.

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Ehran - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:18 PM

Stay classless Jackie boy, always be you!

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ValJamesDuex - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:19 PM

He is the bitch many thought he was.

The Boston asshole finally came out

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debaser66 - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:19 PM

The fans haven't had anything worth cheering for since the crucial stretch run that guaranteed us Eichel

actually he should have been an Oiler.
he said they are gonna regret it not drafting him 1 OA

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old kummelweck - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:19 PM

Eichel back in a situation where a team needs his offensive talents to get them on track and him buckling under the pressure.

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old kummelweck - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:21 PM

The Boston asshole finally come out

He looks manic. I watched earlier interviews in the day and I think he was worried about getting booed and honestly thought that maybe he wouldn't.



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debaser66 - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:21 PM

here are the quotes.

hearing him say that live actually invokes more pity than anger
another incompetent Boterill move naming a guy like that captain

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ValJamesDuex - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:22 PM

He looks manic. I watched earlier interviews in the day and I think he was worried about getting booed and honestly thought that maybe he wouldn't.

yah, really, he was calm and composed in earlier interviews today, this one he is a little cray cray

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milwaukee - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:24 PM

He looks manic. I watched earlier interviews in the day and I think he was worried about getting booed and honestly thought that maybe he wouldn't.

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joshjull - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:24 PM

hearing him say that live actually invokes more pity than anger
another incompetent Boterill move naming a guy like that captain

I have zero pity. He’s an entitled brat.

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Zman5778 - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:25 PM

He looks manic. I watched earlier interviews in the day and I think he was worried about getting booed and honestly thought that maybe he wouldn't.

I honestly think he thought he'd be warmly received. Look at his eyes and how large they got.....he was utterly shocked.

He's clueless why the fans booed him.

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milwaukee - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:26 PM

He looks manic. I watched earlier interviews in the day and I think he was worried about getting booed and honestly thought that maybe he wouldn't.

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Pretty sure Eichel had a pre-thought response to the media well before puck drop.

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debaser66 - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:28 PM

Eichel back in a situation where a team needs his offensive talents to get them on track and him buckling under the pressure.

I missread the first time and understood something like this:
Eichel back in a situation where a team needs their players to get him the puck and buckling under the pressure

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The Blunder Years - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:28 PM

He literally just gave every fan in Buffalo what they wanted with those comments.

what a dumbass LMAO

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jc17 - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:30 PM

Tonight was so much fun.

Happy fans stuck around to cheer craig. I like that it ended with everyone cheering for our team, not just against you know who

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joshjull - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:30 PM



Now these two are going to go after him. Oh boy.

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debaser66 - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:30 PM

I have zero pity. He’s an entitled brat.

just a notion which I dismissed quickly after I saw a second camera angle

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debaser66 - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:32 PM

He literally just gave every fan in Buffalo what they wanted with those comments.

what a dumbass LMAO

he finally displayed some leadership

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old kummelweck - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:37 PM

Now these two are going to go after him. Oh boy.

Going to? Have you listened to their podcast?

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joshjull - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:37 PM





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ValJamesDuex - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:37 PM

Eichel was not going to come out for a post game presser until Harrington lit up the Vegas press guy! per Pham

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joshjull - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:37 PM

Going to? Have you listened to their podcast?

I don’t

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joshjull - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:38 PM

Eichel was not going to co0me out for a post game presser until Harrington lit up the Vegas press guy! per Pham

Jack is such a baby

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joshjull - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:38 PM






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Ralonzo - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:39 PM

Eichel is a salty bitch. Hahahaha what a clown, thank you Adams for moving this prick.

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My Cozen Dylan - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:42 PM

I didn’t boo Jack. He was the lone bright spot through a bunch of bad years.

But man, some really awful comments there.

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CaliSabresfan24 - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:44 PM



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debaser66 - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:44 PM

most entertaining overall game experience in more than a decade
and we had the last laugh in every single aspect!
couldn't ask for more
that Eichel presser is just the cherry on top
he was finally himself
showing off his captain material

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milwaukee - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:46 PM

Anyone have Granato post game audio (if any)? Thanks

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Vito_81 - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:46 PM

Man, Im definitely going to the Vegas game in Buffalo next season for sure

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Ace - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:47 PM

This couldn’t have gone better.

Krebs scoring. Tuch getting the puck from Jack and sealing it. Jack’s comments after the game.

It’s perfect.

There was a lot of people torn on all of this. And with good reasons.

But not anymore. He’s the bad guy. The new good guys rose to the occasion and made him show his true face.

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old kummelweck - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:48 PM

I don’t

Let's just say they aren't fans of #9. Especially Rivet.

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BuffaloGooner - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:48 PM

Guys, that was CATHARTIC.

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Zippy Chippy - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:48 PM

Wonder if Jack was holding out hope that he would be cheered. And when he was booed he realized that he didn't even have fan support and thus wasted the last 7 years of his life here.

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CaliSabresfan24 - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:49 PM

remember guys... jack has "zero bitterness"

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Ace - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:50 PM

Guys, that was CATHARTIC.

That’s the right word.

we all move past this era together now.

Tuch being the one to get the puck from him and seal it was poetic.

Out with the old…in with the new. Guy who wanted out…guy who wants to be here. Last captain to probably the next captain.

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1point21Gigawatts - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:51 PM

That’s the right word.

we all move past this era together now.

Tuch being the one to get the puck from him and seal it was poetic.

Out with the old…in with the new. Guy who wanted out…guy who wants to be here. Last captain to probably the next captain.

Except no way Eichel doesn’t get booed in Buffalo for the rest of his career. If he had clammed up, it would be over.

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Ace - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:51 PM

remember guys... jack has "zero bitterness"

Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth

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Ace - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:53 PM

Except no way Eichel doesn’t get booed in Buffalo for the rest of his career. If he had clammed up, it would be over.

oh he will get booed harder and louder now.

by everyone.

he closed the door on his era emphatically to even those who blame the organization mostly. He finally united people for the first time since the tank to get him divided them

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joshjull - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:53 PM



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joshjull - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:54 PM



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BuffaloGooner - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:54 PM

In the 80s Kolesar would’ve had to pick his teeth up off the floor from some head high stuck service. I cannot believe he didn’t get tossed.

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joshjull - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:56 PM

In the 80s Kolesar would’ve had to pick his teeth up off the floor from some head high stuck service. I cannot believe he didn’t get tossed.

I can.

The officials tonight were terrible. I cut and paste this for most games.

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New Sabres Captain - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:56 PM

Except no way Eichel doesn’t get booed in Buffalo for the rest of his career. If he had clammed up, it would be over.

Given how long we booed guys like Jagr (for reasons most of the people booing probably didn't even remember...), Eichel is going to hear it for a very, very long time.

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joshjull - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:57 PM



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Ace - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:57 PM

I would be perfectly happy if Tuch found that C on his sweater tomorrow morning. He figuratively took it from the last guy tonight.

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Samsonite23 - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:57 PM

Now these two are going to go after him. Oh boy.

Lol I might have to listen to that show for the first time ever.

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sabremike - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:59 PM

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Ace - Mar 10, 2022 at 10:59 PM

You either lead the team to the playoffs like a hero or you live long enough to become the villain

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TheMistyStranger - Mar 10, 2022 at 11:01 PM

Here's to Vegas continuing the tailspin and the 1st rounder being in the early teens

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Dingo44 - Mar 10, 2022 at 11:02 PM

Isn't Eichel one of the fastest skaters in the league with his long stride? You'd think he could at least try to catch up with his old NTDP linemate with some effort.

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joshjull - Mar 10, 2022 at 11:03 PM



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joshjull - Mar 10, 2022 at 11:03 PM



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Der Jaeger - Mar 10, 2022 at 11:03 PM

Isn't Eichel one of the fastest skaters in the league with his long stride? You'd think he could at least try to catch up with his old NTDP linemate with some effort.

He hit his back check quota for the season earlier in the game

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Uberpecker - Mar 10, 2022 at 11:08 PM

Oh Jackie E, you precious little mermaid.

There had never been any exciting hockey in Buffalo before you came here, no no.
But then you left and people got into it. You've got that one right.

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vcv - Mar 10, 2022 at 11:12 PM

Good:
Jack. He provided much needed closure with his performance on the ice and the full heel turn after the game. No longer do I have to half root for him and half hope he fails. The first two acts are over and we are firmly in act 3.

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Bobby Bottle Service - Mar 10, 2022 at 11:13 PM

The Boston asshole finally came out

I think he was being a little tongue-in-cheek during the post-game interview.

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BFLO - Mar 10, 2022 at 11:14 PM

Eichel with some strong Mr Burns energy in that presser
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joshjull - Mar 10, 2022 at 11:16 PM



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ValJamesDuex - Mar 10, 2022 at 11:18 PM

delte

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Chainshot - Mar 10, 2022 at 11:19 PM

Given how long we booed guys like Jagr (for reasons most of the people booing probably didn't even remember...), Eichel is going to hear it for a very, very long time.

There are still some boos for Chara and that shit is almost 20 years old now too. Buffalo fans don't forget. And I'd say we don't forgive either.

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ValJamesDuex - Mar 10, 2022 at 11:22 PM

I think he was being a little tongue-in-cheek during the post-game interview.

I think your being naive

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thewookie1 - Mar 10, 2022 at 11:23 PM

There are still some boos for Chara and that shit is almost 20 years old now too. Buffalo fans don't forget. And I'd say we don't forgive either.

Pretty much, you have to do a ton to get back into Buffalo fan's good graces after burning that bridge. Hasek being one of the few I can think of.

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Buffaloed - Mar 10, 2022 at 11:25 PM

I think he was being a little tongue-in-cheek during the post-game interview.

He finally acted human.

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buffalojedwardo - Mar 10, 2022 at 11:26 PM

How bout it Jack.

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Bobby Bottle Service - Mar 10, 2022 at 11:26 PM

I think your being naive

Either way, glad to have closed that chapter. I can be ambivalent about his existence until he becomes a Bruin.

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buffalowing88 - Mar 10, 2022 at 11:26 PM

So sad that NHL’s fairy tale of Jack’s return was a nightmare instead. f*** this league and their bullshit officiating.

Which calls were bullshit? I didn't think it was that bad after the first, tbh. Krebs second penalty in particular seemed pretty blatant to me. I hate when we blame refs as if they actually get together and say, "Hey, screw these fans, lets make sure to throw a game in an age when people have 2389 camera angles and there are 293 talking heads and countless posters scrutinizing everything we do."

That's some real conspiracy theory stuff.

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Chainshot - Mar 10, 2022 at 11:27 PM

Pretty much, you have to do a ton to get back into Buffalo fan's good graces after burning that bridge. Hasek being one of the few I can think of.

Interesting to think that the talent of Hasek, who did everything in his power to help them win and was ultimately let down by the inaction of the GM/ownership vs. Jack's time where he clearly did not do everything in his power to win in his time in Buffalo and yet still decided he'd had enough without actually doing enough to merit the consideration. Again, it speaks to the character of the individuals as people. One is a high-character league MVP, the other is an entitled punk.

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kirby11 - Mar 10, 2022 at 11:27 PM

G
Building got loud
Ex-Knights scoring, Jack not scoring
Tuch is captain material
Krebs might be the best passer we've had since Connolly

B
More injuries

U
Jack's haircut, mess of a beard, and attitude

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yahhockey - Mar 10, 2022 at 11:27 PM

G

Eichel letting his true colours shine during the post game presser. It doesn't mean he isn't a good hockey player or that he didn't do positive things in the community while he played for Buffalo, however the addition by subtraction concept seems to be a fair assessment of his departure. Tuch and Krebs are the icing on that cake.

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Der Jaeger - Mar 10, 2022 at 11:30 PM

G: Tuch doing Drury stuff

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Matt Ress - Mar 10, 2022 at 11:32 PM

There were cheers during the tribute video when it went from Jack playing to Jack helping Roswell kids.

Awesome game.

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Chainshot - Mar 10, 2022 at 11:33 PM

Which calls were bullshit? I didn't think it was that bad after the first, tbh. Krebs second penalty in particular seemed pretty blatant to me. I hate when we blame refs as if they actually get together and say, "Hey, screw these fans, lets make sure to throw a game in an age when people have 2389 camera angles and there are 293 talking heads and countless posters scrutinizing everything we do."

That's some real conspiracy theory stuff.

Hinostroza was tackled entering the Vegas zone immediately before they made that call on Krebs. That's probably where most of Krebs' upset at that comes from. Then later, they missed a clear slash on Skinner at center ice after having place three Sabres in the box for similar things. Add in the lack of instigator on the Fitz fight, plus letting the bush league stuff go at the end of it... it gets old.

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Bobby Bottle Service - Mar 10, 2022 at 11:34 PM

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Eichel letting his true colours shine during the post game presser. It doesn't mean he isn't a good hockey player or that he didn't do positive things in the community while he played for Buffalo, however the addition by subtraction concept seems to be a fair assessment of his departure. Tuch and Krebs are the icing on that cake.

Don't forget Tage Thompson. Jack's departure opened the opportunity for the real Tage Thompson to emerge.

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joshjull - Mar 10, 2022 at 11:36 PM





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BFLO - Mar 10, 2022 at 11:37 PM

G: Spending $38 on a 300 level seat, but sitting in the 3rd row of the 100's.

Skinner, Tuch, Thompson immediately going over to the penalty box to give props to Hayden and Fitz after their fights.

This is the loudest and most energy I can remember in this arena in at least a decade(ugly? lol).

Fans were HEATED after that no call hook in the o-zone lead to a turn over which led to Krebs got called for hooking in the d-zone breaking up the play. Okposo laid into the refs for this.

Skinner got slashed hard on the hands and got super pissed and let the refs have it, slapped his stick into the boards from the bench a few times. No call of course.

It was so much fun to actually go to a real hockey game again.

Not gonna repeat what others have said.

The Jack tribute video got mega MEGA booed until it switched to showing him at Roswell. Then he got a standing ovation.

B:

U: Jesus christ refs. could you be any more biased?

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joshjull - Mar 10, 2022 at 11:38 PM

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Bobby Bottle Service - Mar 10, 2022 at 11:39 PM

G: Tuch doing Drury stuff

Underrated moment. When Tuch scored the ENG, after he went by the bench, he skated down the rink to say something to Anderson... probably the first to congratulate him on #300.

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ValJamesDuex - Mar 10, 2022 at 11:48 PM

Either way, glad to have closed that chapter. I can be ambivalent about his existence until he becomes a Bruin.

HA, I was thinking the same exact thing tonight!, he will wiggle out of Vegas in 3-4 years and get home to Boston or NYR. Then we can really have some fun!

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milwaukee - Mar 10, 2022 at 11:49 PM

What a night from Eichel though

0 points!

1 loss!

2 combined goals from the players he was traded for!

3 shitty comments to piss of the entire fanbase!

Oh and a -1 from the assist on Tuchs goal!

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Sansbacon - Mar 10, 2022 at 11:49 PM

I keep annoying myself with my own interruptions as I’m laughing at this

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ValJamesDuex - Mar 10, 2022 at 11:49 PM

Underrated moment. When Tuch scored the ENG, after he went by the bench, he skated down the rink to say something to Anderson... probably the first to congratulate him on #300.

We need another Tuch, and another Fitzgerald or two in the lineup.

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sabremike - Mar 10, 2022 at 11:51 PM

Interesting to think that the talent of Hasek, who did everything in his power to help them win and was ultimately let down by the inaction of the GM/ownership vs. Jack's time where he clearly did not do everything in his power to win in his time in Buffalo and yet still decided he'd had enough without actually doing enough to merit the consideration. Again, it speaks to the character of the individuals as people. One is a high-character league MVP, the other is an entitled punk.

Owners who ended up being among the biggest crooks in American history I shall dully note.

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ValJamesDuex - Mar 10, 2022 at 11:51 PM

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Building got loud
Ex-Knights scoring, Jack not scoring
Tuch is captain material
Krebs might be the best passer we've had since Connolly

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More injuries

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Jack's haircut, mess of a beard, and attitude

Jack should be able to afford a dermatologist by now as well

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Chainshot - Mar 10, 2022 at 11:52 PM

Owners who ended up being among the biggest crooks in American history I shall dully note.

Eh, they were the ones made an example of but plenty of much larger fish were left unfried. They were small potatoes.

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ForsbergMoDo21 - Mar 10, 2022 at 11:57 PM

If you were a pro athlete, how could you ever get tired of interactions like these?

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JLewyB - Mar 11, 2022 at 12:01 AM

It was the forwards that scored but our D and Anderson were the reason we won the game. All 6 of them were solid. Dahlin has been awesome for a while.

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Chainshot - Mar 11, 2022 at 12:03 AM

Jack is being a complete baby in the post game presser.

That may be an insult to actual babies.

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CowbellConray - Mar 11, 2022 at 12:09 AM

Samuelsson is an absolute stud. For being as young as he is, Granato is already trusting him in big matchups and moments. If he continues to refine his game and add even more edge (he has the size to be a monster) we are looking at our version of Erik Cernak in Tampa. Top 4 defensive defenseman who can also move the puck when needed.

I think I’m falling in love…

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SundherDome - Mar 11, 2022 at 12:19 AM

Jokiharju had a good game. He was railing Jack all game.

I'm not gunna pret nd I didn't root for Jack when he was here. He had games where he was the best in the league but it was never consistent enough and now I see why. Loved Tuch in his draft year and thrilled with him.

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K8fool - Mar 11, 2022 at 12:43 AM

Lol I might have to listen to that show for the first time ever.

I was always trying to think jack lost it when they didnt find him a 2c after bergland quit and went home and we started hutton but. Cmon capt jack
Junkie or not he was fun to watch but that interview makes it easy to let him and his billboards go and know you have to fight the world to win in buffalo

Jack just isnt strong enough to take the beating many of us have

Wish you well jack. Take care my friend

KA I like the team you are building Thank you for honorable guys like kyle okposo and all you have aquired and kept that will run thru a wall for us who call ouselves buffalo natives. We Never Give Up.

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snowkiddin - Mar 11, 2022 at 1:49 AM

Hey guys, I’m a Jets fan but I just wanted to join in on the dunking on Eichel.

His team got dummied tonight and he comes off as a whiny loser. Love to see it.

Eichel has been Mr. Invisible since arriving in Vegas and the Golden Knights are in real danger of missing the playoffs. Maybe focus more on winning games and less on Sabres fans there, Jack.

I hope Tuch and Krebs are great players for you guys for years to come while Eichel and the Golden Knights fade away.

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cybresabre - Mar 11, 2022 at 1:50 AM

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Sabre the Win - Mar 11, 2022 at 3:17 AM

I'm really curious how the guy who made the "Dont boo Eichel" thread feels

If you watch that video and look at Eichel it looks like he was about to do one of his regular smash the stick off the goal post moves but decided against it at the last minute.

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Sabre Dance - Mar 11, 2022 at 3:54 AM

Fans need this. We had that underdog feeling back that we've been missing for over a decade. Buffalo thrives off of that. Hopefully this is the start of something.

I will finally thank Jack Eichel. He woke us up.

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elchud - Mar 11, 2022 at 5:31 AM

Just watched the replay, officiating was garbage, hope Asplund is OK. So much to like.

Eichel shoulda taken the high road in his comments, bad look for him, its not difficult to say something classy and mature even if you don't believe it.

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Dubi Doo - Mar 11, 2022 at 6:35 AM

OK, Eich. This relationship has got dirty. Taking shots at the fans for booing? Fine. Both sides are getting petty, but I suppose it's now a 'f*** me? f*** you, too" attitude. I was rooting for you, but not anymore. My allegiance lies with the Sabres and their fanbase. Sucks, because I really, really like the Knights, too.

Sports are fun when shit gets petty, haha.

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Jim Bob - Mar 11, 2022 at 6:51 AM

here are the quotes.

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Jim Bob - Mar 11, 2022 at 6:54 AM



Report: this was the victory song in the Sabres locker room last night

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Jim Bob - Mar 11, 2022 at 6:59 AM



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KeepKane - Mar 11, 2022 at 7:44 AM

Samuelsson is an absolute stud. For being as young as he is, Granato is already trusting him in big matchups and moments. If he continues to refine his game and add even more edge (he has the size to be a monster) we are looking at our version of Erik Cernak in Tampa. Top 4 defensive defenseman who can also move the puck when needed.

I think I’m falling in love…

Can we go get a right handed version of this also. Use cap space to add assets--->assets to add a RHD or two.

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GrierIsGod123 - Mar 11, 2022 at 7:52 AM

Can we go get a right handed version of this also. Use cap space to add assets--->assets to add a RHD or two.

Samuelsson doesn't look like a third pairing defender to me. Looks like an eventual top 4 shutdown guy. If not top 4 minutes, he'll at least spend a good deal of time against the other team's top players.

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Gabrielor - Mar 11, 2022 at 7:53 AM

Good game. 19-89 is a beautiful thing.

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Fjordy - Mar 11, 2022 at 8:08 AM

Dahlin also had a very solid game, physically, in defense, breakouts, in attack, on PP. He created a great moment for Olofsson, it's a pity there was a moment where he could shoot, but he gave the pass. He needs to shoot more often, he knows how. I think Rasmus will end up getting "A" permanently in the near future.

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Chainshot - Mar 11, 2022 at 8:18 AM

Report: this was the victory song in the Sabres locker room last night

Skinner DJing again?

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WiHockeyGuy - Mar 11, 2022 at 8:23 AM

My new favorite thing is the Sabres pissing Eichel off, what a feeling. So happy for Anderson. Tuch is the captain, just give him the "C" already.

Screw Eichel. I've said it so many times, we are far better without him.

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WoahBoy - Mar 11, 2022 at 8:27 AM

To skirt the Eichel narrative for a moment, I want to give major props to Anderson for his 300th. Not a super difficult but by no means easy victory to accomplish the task. Maybe it helped that the spotlight wasn’t solely on him.
And man, what a backhand deflector by Krebs and arguably the “best ENG” I’ve ever seen by Tuch!
Probably the highlight game I’ll reflect upon all season. I regret not seeing it in person. I’ll be in town tonight to do some curling this weekend

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old kummelweck - Mar 11, 2022 at 8:50 AM

One thing that seems be be going unobserved was HOW BADLY those guys wanted to beat Vegas and Eichel that night outside of Tuch and Krebs. Yes, I know they were trying to get Anderson his 300th win, but don't think there isn't a small tinge of bitterness for some of the guys left behind when your captain abandons you?

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Jacob582 - Mar 11, 2022 at 9:10 AM

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Have you noticed Olofsson going to the net more?

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gallagt01 - Mar 11, 2022 at 9:13 AM

I've been back and forth on Eichel the leader (and person) since well before the trade. Moving on was always the right choice given the circumstances, but I wasn't sure where I stood on Eichel himself.

That 30-second clip has validated for me the notion that Jack is a total loser.

I'll miss the skill. That's it.

I'll otherwise hope to never think about his loser era ever again.

Go Sabres.

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Jacob582 - Mar 11, 2022 at 9:17 AM

That 30-second clip has validated for me the notion that Jack is a total loser.

I thought Eichel would be happier when he went to a good team with more leadership.

That clip shows the same attitude we had a problem with when he was here and talked to media after the game.

He doesn't have the emmotional maturity to handle the loss/rejection and not let it show in post-game press conferences.

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Jim Bob - Mar 11, 2022 at 9:20 AM









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Chainshot - Mar 11, 2022 at 9:25 AM

One thing that seems be be going unobserved was HOW BADLY those guys wanted to beat Vegas and Eichel that night outside of Tuch and Krebs. Yes, I know they were trying to get Anderson his 300th win, but don't think there isn't a small tinge of bitterness for some of the guys left behind when your captain abandons you?

Indeed. Also showed a lot of team character to give Anderson the collective stick-taps as they were running the video tribute for him after the game. They are very much more of a team than they were before. It may not all be Jack, but as I've mentioned before, I actually like these guys for a change. We see the effort, we see the anguish and we see their collective celebrations. It's easier to be onboard with how they act than it ever was in the Eichel era.

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Bobby Bottle Service - Mar 11, 2022 at 9:30 AM

The Eichel clip that stuck out to me the most was a pre-recorded interview they showed at the beginning of the broadcast. He did his usual glossing over how his tenure came to an end, not mentioning that he asked for a trade a year prior to the injury... Whatever.

Then the interviewer asked him about becoming a Golden Knight. He took a deep breath and went into his canned "This is the place I always wanted to be". I could literally see him getting into character. I had heard that same speech before, just after he was drafted by the Sabres. I believed it the first time.

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Chainshot - Mar 11, 2022 at 9:34 AM

Perhaps time for some of the guys who regularly cover the team to pound in the last few nails.

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CaliSabresfan24 - Mar 11, 2022 at 9:38 AM

Fun fact- I have never rewatched an empty net goal with a fat grin on my face as much as I have with Tuchs goal.

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CountOlofsson - Mar 11, 2022 at 9:46 AM

OK, Eich. This relationship has got dirty. Taking shots at the fans for booing? Fine. Both sides are getting petty, but I suppose it's now a 'f*** me? f*** you, too" attitude. I was rooting for you, but not anymore. My allegiance lies with the Sabres and their fanbase. Sucks, because I really, really like the Knights, too.

Sports are fun when shit gets petty, haha.

100% this. My original username was “ilikeeich”, I still love his talent, but good god man- take the L and move on. Instead he comes out with this butthurt response like the fans never supported him- nah man, the team sucked, you wanted out, it’s whatever, but don’t act like the fans didn’t support you. That’s bullshit and he knows it. Sad I had to miss this one, Krebs scoring and then Tuch taking it from him to ice the game is just.. goddamn, beautiful. Big fan of where my Sabres are headed, wasn’t happenin under the leadership of dr. Funke.

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Bones Malone - Mar 11, 2022 at 9:58 AM

My only complaint (other than officiating) is that they didn't get an EI-CHEL, EI-CHEL, EI-CHEL chant going after the ENG.

Also can we get a billboard outside of T-Mobile? Something simple like "Jack, No we don't. Regards, Buffalo"

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sabresfan129103 - Mar 11, 2022 at 10:01 AM

Couple of notes:
-Anderson was a beast last night. I think getting 300 wins was a main motivating factor on him coming back this season. I think now that he has that he may ride off into the sunset after this year.

- I haven't seen Olofsson shoot the puck like for a very long time. That goal was a vintage VO goal. I wonder if whatever was ailing him to finally starting to heal.

- You can't replace Jack. There are so few players of his caliber throughout the league. That being said this team was so devoid of NHL talent throughout the lineup that injecting multiple NHL caliber players is going to be pretty nice payoff in the longrun.

- If UPL is the starter next season and they can get a competent backup then I don't why they can't be a .500 team next year and then start pushing for a playoff spot the year after. This playing long stretches with AHL goaltenders needs to stop though.

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tsujimoto74 - Mar 11, 2022 at 10:17 AM

Report: this was the victory song in the Sabres locker room last night

Must've been Skinner's turn to pick

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JThorne - Mar 11, 2022 at 10:18 AM



This... is pretty great.

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old kummelweck - Mar 11, 2022 at 10:18 AM

So much salt. I love Bove's comment. And Rivet is tagging Gionta in his tweet? Hmm....

I do think Rivet is a bit of an old timer when it comes to relating to the new wave of Z players, so a slight discount on the Eichel slant from him. Granato has his finger on how to work with that cohort.

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Jim Bob - Mar 11, 2022 at 10:21 AM

So much salt. I love Bove's comment. And Rivet is tagging Gionta in his tweet? Hmm....

I do think Rivet is a bit of an old timer when it comes to relating to the new wave of Z players, so a slight discount on the Eichel slant from him. Granato has his finger on how to work with that cohort.

He tagged Gionta, EF, and Roenick because they are regular guests on the podcast.

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Jim Bob - Mar 11, 2022 at 10:23 AM



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old kummelweck - Mar 11, 2022 at 10:24 AM

He tagged Gionta, EF, and Roenick because they are regular guests on the podcast.

Right. I think I stopped listening when they spent an entire episode with Gio discussing the glory of a bidet.

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Clock - Mar 11, 2022 at 10:30 AM

The Karen harumphing was great, then he immediately follows it with the seven months / me leaving comment as if that isn't a self-own.

That said, hopefully the booing stops. Nothing says "We deeply give many shits about you" more than booing every time someone touches the puck.

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TehDoak - Mar 11, 2022 at 10:36 AM

The Karen harumphing was great, then he immediately follows it with the seven months / me leaving comment as if that isn't a self-own.

That said, hopefully the booing stops. Nothing says "We deeply give many shits about you" more than booing every time someone touches the puck.

Wow eichel even brought Clock out of hiding.

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Sabre the Win - Mar 11, 2022 at 10:38 AM

One thing that seems be be going unobserved was HOW BADLY those guys wanted to beat Vegas and Eichel that night outside of Tuch and Krebs. Yes, I know they were trying to get Anderson his 300th win, but don't think there isn't a small tinge of bitterness for me of the guys left behind when your captain abandons you?

Eichel leaving was basically telling these guys he doesn't believe in them, of course they all had something to prove .

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TehDoak - Mar 11, 2022 at 10:41 AM

Hoenstly though, good game by the team. I get the Eichel hate even if I don't agree with most of it.

We could have won with Eichel.

I'm not sure we can win with this ownership. 4 GMs, 7 coaches, 11 years, no playoffs. Players have come and gone, the only constant has been the ownership. Eichel obviously wasn't the savior we'd all hoped he'd be, but you can't blame making or missing the playoffs on a single player, its a 20 man roster. Eichel did his part, mostly.

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BigHockeyFans - Mar 11, 2022 at 10:51 AM

Hey guys Sens fan here I just wanna say how happy I am for Andy winning his 300th game, he was loved here in Ottawa, way to go Andy!!! And I'm so happy you beat that little weasel Eichel what a douchebag. I can't wait until the Sens and the Sabres are back at the top of standings we had a pretty good rivalry going on at one point! Thank you.

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Chainshot - Mar 11, 2022 at 10:55 AM

Hoenstly though, good game by the team. I get the Eichel hate even if I don't agree with most of it.

We could have won with Eichel.

I'm not sure we can win with this ownership. 4 GMs, 7 coaches, 11 years, no playoffs. Players have come and gone, the only constant has been the ownership. Eichel obviously wasn't the savior we'd all hoped he'd be, but you can't blame making or missing the playoffs on a single player, its a 20 man roster. Eichel did his part, mostly.

Hard to win with that sort of toxic guy as the center of the team who regularly quit on the important defensive part of the game that helps teams win. Him losing a puck battle for Tuch to salt away the win was the sort of typical Eichel play when he was here. What was lacking was him converting on the PP or getting something off the rush.

Jack's commitment is to Jack, not to his team winning. And his commentary showed that.

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TheMistyStranger - Mar 11, 2022 at 10:55 AM

Hoenstly though, good game by the team. I get the Eichel hate even if I don't agree with most of it.

We could have won with Eichel.

I'm not sure we can win with this ownership. 4 GMs, 7 coaches, 11 years, no playoffs. Players have come and gone, the only constant has been the ownership. Eichel obviously wasn't the savior we'd all hoped he'd be, but you can't blame making or missing the playoffs on a single player, its a 20 man roster. Eichel did his part, mostly.

I do think there were issues with Jack's leadership, or lack thereof. And throwing 11 years without the playoffs is a bit disingenuous considering Jack wasn't here that whole time. He's a fun player to watch, but he's more Petr Bondra than Mark Messier. His attitude on the bench, in interviews? Pretty shitty. I'm not surprised he went nuclear at the end of last season. I'm not surprised to see him trying to revise history and ignore the trade request he made a full year before the surgery red herring. He's a malcontent, and the Sabres are better with him gone.

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Grouch - Mar 11, 2022 at 10:56 AM

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Krebs might be the best passer we've had since Connolly

Hino might be the best passer……..hope they re-sign him for 2 or 3 years. Prob only guy they should re-sign. His motor is just strong and has great vision. Give him $2m per, I don’t care. Worth it

Also just put the ‘C’ on 89 already.

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Fjordy - Mar 11, 2022 at 10:58 AM

Hino might be the best passer……..hope they re-sign him for 2 or 3 years. Prob only guy they should re-sign. His motor is just strong and has great vision. Give him $2m per, I don’t care. Worth it

Also just put the ‘C’ on 89 already.

I think they might not want to block Quinn and Peterka, but Hinostroza has been really good this season.

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Jim Bob - Mar 11, 2022 at 10:59 AM





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Paxon - Mar 11, 2022 at 10:59 AM

Fun fact- I have never rewatch an empty net goal with a fat grin on my face as much as I have with Tuchs goal.

I rewatched that one super high-effort one Gerber scored a bunch when it happened

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CaliSabresfan24 - Mar 11, 2022 at 11:00 AM

One minute in listening to after the whistle and Rivet is bringing the HEAT!!

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joshjull - Mar 11, 2022 at 11:02 AM



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sabresfan129103 - Mar 11, 2022 at 11:04 AM

Hino might be the best passer……..hope they re-sign him for 2 or 3 years. Prob only guy they should re-sign. His motor is just strong and has great vision. Give him $2m per, I don’t care. Worth it

Also just put the ‘C’ on 89 already.

They are something like $20 million below the cap floor next year(with 12 players signed), so they have money to spend for sure. Even if they gave him 3 years $6 million total it doesn't really affect them at all.

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tsujimoto74 - Mar 11, 2022 at 11:06 AM

The face of a man who definitely, 100%, in no way, is still bitter.

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joshjull - Mar 11, 2022 at 11:12 AM



There are a ton of these on Twitter.

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Fezzy126 - Mar 11, 2022 at 11:15 AM

It seems everyone is getting in on the Eichel action





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Chainshot - Mar 11, 2022 at 11:37 AM

It seems everyone is getting in on the Eichel action

Jack tears will be used to make the Jägermeister extra bitter.

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Jim Bob - Mar 11, 2022 at 11:39 AM



Bravo!

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joshjull - Mar 11, 2022 at 11:44 AM

@Jame was 100% right about Eichel. I’m eating a ton of crow after defending Jacks for years in that debate.

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old kummelweck - Mar 11, 2022 at 11:45 AM

The expectations were too high for Eichel. He wasn't generational and the fans wanted him to be. He believed he was right there with McDavid and he wasn't. We all defended him as fans when others tried to knock him down a few rungs - I think people get way too emotionally involved in their sport heroes.

It's actually a paradox of developing ultra-elite athletes that are always at the top. You tell them they are special and encourage narcissism, they enjoy unprecedented privilege their whole lives. The risk is then there for them to grow into selfish, narcissists, who are unable to be introspective.

I suspect this whole ordeal for Eichel ended last night. The book is closed now, he can move on. The Sabres can move on. I can see both him and the Sabres growing from yesterday.

Yesterday was collective catharsis.

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old kummelweck - Mar 11, 2022 at 11:51 AM

One minute in listening to after the whistle and Rivet is bringing the HEAT!!

Where are you listening? Not on youtube.

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Jim Bob - Mar 11, 2022 at 11:53 AM

Where are you listening? Not on youtube.

It is in my Spotify feed. It is probably on Apple Podcasts, too.

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Jacob582 - Mar 11, 2022 at 11:53 AM

The Eichel clip that stuck out to me the most was a pre-recorded interview they showed at the beginning of the broadcast. He did his usual glossing over how his tenure came to an end, not mentioning that he asked for a trade a year prior to the injury... Whatever.

Then the interviewer asked him about becoming a Golden Knight. He took a deep breath and went into his canned "This is the place I always wanted to be". I could literally see him getting into character. I had heard that same speech before, just after he was drafted by the Sabres. I believed it the first time.

This is where I wanted to be (even though my agents were trying to ochestrate getting me to NYR).

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joshjull - Mar 11, 2022 at 11:53 AM

The expectations were too high for Eichel. He wasn't generational and the fans wanted him to be. He believed he was right there with McDavid and he wasn't. We all defended him as fans when others tried to knock him down a few rungs - I think people get way too emotionally involved in their sport heroes.

It's actually a paradox of developing ultra-elite athletes that are always at the top. You tell them they are special and encourage narcissism, they enjoy unprecedented privilege their whole lives. The risk is then there for them to grow into selfish, narcissists, who are unable to be introspective.

I suspect this whole ordeal for Eichel ended last night. The book is closed now, he can move on. The Sabres can move on. I can see both him and the Sabres growing from yesterday.

Yesterday was collective catharsis.

I would amend this to say maybe expectations were too high from management.

They went all in with that 8yr 10mil per deal before Jack had become that level player. But they had a ton of confidence in the player he was going to become. Then he was named captain. Then he effectively quit and asked for a trade 2yrs into that deal. Once ROR got traded it was effectively Jack’s team.

Maybe all of that was too much for him.

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Zman5778 - Mar 11, 2022 at 11:58 AM

@Jame was 100% right about Eichel. I’m eating a ton of crow after defending Jacks for years in that debate.

What was the crux of the debate? You'd think I'd remember....

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Jim Bob - Mar 11, 2022 at 11:59 AM



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joshjull - Mar 11, 2022 at 12:04 PM

What was the crux of the debate? You'd think I'd remember....

In short form. Jack was an entitled brat who hadn’t earned the contract yet. Giving it to him was a terrible idea that rewarded him before he earned it. That his contract and the captaincy were not good ideas because who he was as a person.

EDIT: Jame frequently would pit two players against each other for his debate focus. Drury vs Briere, Girgs vs Larsson, etc. Then aggressively went after the player that wasn’t his favorite. Many times it seemed incredibly pointless. His Jack takes were part of a wider Jack vs ROR framing. Which is why I didn’t take it as a legit argument but I was wrong.

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old kummelweck - Mar 11, 2022 at 12:08 PM

It is in my Spotify feed. It is probably on Apple Podcasts, too.

Found it on apple podcast. Thx.

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Chainshot - Mar 11, 2022 at 12:09 PM

What was the crux of the debate? You'd think I'd remember....

Jame's point was always that Eichel was a punk and the issue in the room.

Edit - didn't mean to step on your response @joshjull

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Fezzy126 - Mar 11, 2022 at 12:23 PM

@Jame was 100% right about Eichel. I’m eating a ton of crow after defending Jacks for years in that debate.

I'm right there with you, and we're far from alone. The good thing is Jame will never let any of us forget either, across multiple forms of media





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Gabrielor - Mar 11, 2022 at 12:25 PM

@Jame was 100% right about Eichel. I’m eating a ton of crow after defending Jacks for years in that debate.

Well said Josh.

I originally defended Eichel a lot. Jamie wore me down with a lot of reasonable proof.


Also, maybe unban him. He still loves to talk puck.

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TehDoak - Mar 11, 2022 at 12:30 PM

Hard to win with that sort of toxic guy as the center of the team who regularly quit on the important defensive part of the game that helps teams win. Him losing a puck battle for Tuch to salt away the win was the sort of typical Eichel play when he was here. What was lacking was him converting on the PP or getting something off the rush.

Jack's commitment is to Jack, not to his team winning. And his commentary showed that.

Patrick Kane won 3 cups while being a complete douche. Insufferable, selfish players succeed all the time in this league. And oftentimes those players are built around as core pieces.

The issue is, selfish players in bad situations become the focus of the issue. And with Eichel, that is eventually what happened.

The idea that only good teammates win cups or are core players is living in some weird reality. Most professional athletes are terrible, spoiled people, who have been told they are special since they were in their early teens.

As I said, we could have won with Eichel. But not just Eichel, we needed more talent to be competitive and we never got to that level.

My favorite thing Granato has said since he's been here was:



And, if anything, that needs to be the lesson from all this. No one player can save a team. No matter how good. You need a lot of good players at every position.

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Gabrielor - Mar 11, 2022 at 12:32 PM

In short form. Jack was an entitled brat who hadn’t earned the contract yet. Giving it to him was a terrible idea that rewarded him before he earned it. That his contract and the captaincy were not good ideas because who he was as a person.

EDIT: Jame frequently would pit two players against each other for his debate focus. Drury vs Briere, Girgs vs Larsson, etc. Then aggressively went after the player that wasn’t his favorite. Many times it seemed incredibly pointless. His Jack takes were part of a wider Jack vs ROR framing. Which is why I didn’t take it as a legit argument but I was wrong.

He definitely prefers the well-rounded two-way player over the skilled scorer (Drury vs Briere best example). It's really just a debate of styles.

In Jack's case, he tipped the scales by acting like a child since roughly 2016.

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TheMistyStranger - Mar 11, 2022 at 12:44 PM

There's No Savior Here sounds like a tagline for a new Boondock Saints flick.

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CaliSabresfan24 - Mar 11, 2022 at 12:49 PM

Where are you listening? Not on youtube.

Google podcast but I am pretty sure you can listen to them anywhere you get podcast. You can listen on Spotify for free

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BuffaloGooner - Mar 11, 2022 at 1:02 PM



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Buffaloed - Mar 11, 2022 at 1:02 PM

It's a shame that the Eichel event is distracting from from the greatest moment of a classy player's career.



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Chainshot - Mar 11, 2022 at 1:04 PM

Where are you listening? Not on youtube.

I am listening here - https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/1869800.rss

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Dex - Mar 11, 2022 at 1:11 PM

Hey guys Sens fan here I just wanna say how happy I am for Andy winning his 300th game, he was loved here in Ottawa, way to go Andy!!! And I'm so happy you beat that little weasel Eichel what a douchebag. I can't wait until the Sens and the Sabres are back at the top of standings we had a pretty good rivalry going on at one point! Thank you.

Please stop insulting douchebags and weasels. Thank you.

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TheMistyStranger - Mar 11, 2022 at 1:23 PM

Lol

Deadspin: Maybe Jack Eichel should shut up.
Maybe Jack Eichel should shut up

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WiHockeyGuy - Mar 11, 2022 at 1:26 PM

There have been a few moments this season that have felt great and give me hope for the coming years. Last night was definitely top of the list.

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seppobenco - Mar 11, 2022 at 1:28 PM

After these unnecessary comments he made, i lost all respect for him. Of an ex-captain absolutely inappropriate. It wasn't that the organization or the fans chased him out of town, he really wanted to get out. This following is absolutely unnecessary. Thank God we got rid of this choleric

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Jim Bob - Mar 11, 2022 at 1:30 PM

I'm right there with you, and we're far from alone. The good thing is Jame will never let any of us forget either, across multiple forms of media

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sufferer - Mar 11, 2022 at 1:35 PM

Patrick Kane won 3 cups while being a complete douche. Insufferable, selfish players succeed all the time in this league. And oftentimes those players are built around as core pieces.

Agreed. I wanted it to work with Eichel because it's hard to come across his talent. I didn't need him to be Stevie Yzerman.

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Bobby Bottle Service - Mar 11, 2022 at 2:01 PM

@Jame was 100% right about Eichel. I’m eating a ton of crow after defending Jacks for years in that debate.

Jame soured on another #9 way before I eventually joined him. Not the first time he's beaten me to the truth.

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Montag DP - Mar 11, 2022 at 2:02 PM

Lol

Deadspin: Maybe Jack Eichel should shut up.
Maybe Jack Eichel should shut up

Yet another article that completely fails to mention his 2020 trade request. And this one includes a supposed review of his career in Buffalo. How is something so vital to the story consistently ignored? It's really puzzling and kind of frustrating as a fan.

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Montag DP - Mar 11, 2022 at 2:04 PM

In short form. Jack was an entitled brat who hadn’t earned the contract yet. Giving it to him was a terrible idea that rewarded him before he earned it. That his contract and the captaincy were not good ideas because who he was as a person.

EDIT: Jame frequently would pit two players against each other for his debate focus. Drury vs Briere, Girgs vs Larsson, etc. Then aggressively went after the player that wasn’t his favorite. Many times it seemed incredibly pointless. His Jack takes were part of a wider Jack vs ROR framing. Which is why I didn’t take it as a legit argument but I was wrong.

I admit he was completely right. The problem I have with his arguments is that he develops these really strong opinions based on information that he couldn't possibly possess and then pushes them with religious fervor. Yeah, he will get it right every once in awhile based on pure chance, but he's also wrong a lot. His support of Tim Murray comes to mind.

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tsujimoto74 - Mar 11, 2022 at 2:06 PM

Agreed. I wanted it to work with Eichel because it's hard to come across his talent. I didn't need him to be Stevie Yzerman.

I definitely think things could've gone a lot differently if we'd had people like Adams and Granato running the ship back in 2015. Jack came in with huge expectations that he obviously didn't live up to, so some part of the blame does belong with him, but why were we getting guys with known off-ice problems like Kane and Bogosian to come be the veteran presence on a young, rebuilding team? Why were we taking a team full of young offensive talent and coaching them into a defensive shell? And so many other bad decisions along the way...

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Jim Bob - Mar 11, 2022 at 2:37 PM

I definitely think things could've gone a lot differently if we'd had people like Adams and Granato running the ship back in 2015. Jack came in with huge expectations that he obviously didn't live up to, so some part of the blame does belong with him, but why were we getting guys with known off-ice problems like Kane and Bogosian to come be the veteran presence on a young, rebuilding team? Why were we taking a team full of young offensive talent and coaching them into a defensive shell? And so many other bad decisions along the way...

Although, the Pegulas & Eichel relationship do have a lot of RGIII & Dan Snyder vibes.

Eichel may have been able to get Adams and Granato axed if he didn't like the way they handled him.

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Jim Bob - Mar 11, 2022 at 2:39 PM

Vegas' cap circumventing backfiring?

That one time when the tire fire that is the main board delivers...

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slip - Mar 11, 2022 at 2:41 PM

Game and GBU threads are epic. Had to drive down to the city to pick up parents at airport. I missed all the damn fun.

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WpgBuffan - Mar 11, 2022 at 2:45 PM

If Dylan Cozens wants to become a beloved face to Eichel's heal, he should fight him the first game next year. The place would go crazy.

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BowieSabresFan - Mar 11, 2022 at 2:55 PM

I admit he was completely right. The problem I have with his arguments is that he develops these really strong opinions based on information that he couldn't possibly possess and then pushes them with religious fervor. Yeah, he will get it right every once in awhile based on pure chance, but he's also wrong a lot. His support of Tim Murray comes to mind.

And was often just a tad caustic to many that disagreed with him.

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Jacob582 - Mar 11, 2022 at 3:21 PM

Right. I think I stopped listening when they spent an entire episode with Gio discussing the glory of a bidet.

* 5 minutes

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Jacob582 - Mar 11, 2022 at 3:28 PM

Hey guys Sens fan here I just wanna say how happy I am for Andy winning his 300th game, he was loved here in Ottawa, way to go Andy!!! And I'm so happy you beat that little weasel Eichel what a douchebag. I can't wait until the Sens and the Sabres are back at the top of standings we had a pretty good rivalry going on at one point! Thank you.

Hope you watched after the game.



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Jacob582 - Mar 11, 2022 at 3:32 PM

I think they might not want to block Quinn and Peterka, but Hinostroza has been really good this season.

I hate this "not blocking out" prospects bit. Give these kids competition in training camp. Make them beat out another player for the job.

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Lloydchristmas138 - Mar 11, 2022 at 3:35 PM

I hate this "not blocking out" prospects bit. Give these kids competition in training camp. Make them beat out another player for the job.

One of the biggest reasons I feel like the bills improved was that they finally created internal competition for spots. Just like the Sabres they had literally no depth for years

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Fjordy - Mar 11, 2022 at 3:41 PM

I hate this "not blocking out" prospects bit. Give these kids competition in training camp. Make them beat out another player for the job.

Wait, that's not how it works. The camp will be after the free agency, if Quinn and Peterka show themselves well there, then what to do with Hinostroza? Quinn has already completely dominated the AHL and will be in the NHL next season, obviously. Peterka also looked very good, but even if he starts next season in the AHL, he is unlikely to play there for a long time. I'm not against Hinostroza, but if the kids deserve their place, give it to them.

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Jim Bob - Mar 11, 2022 at 3:46 PM





If that is why Eakin did that...



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Jim Bob - Mar 11, 2022 at 3:50 PM



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Jim Bob - Mar 11, 2022 at 3:54 PM





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Jacob582 - Mar 11, 2022 at 3:57 PM

Wait, that's not how it works. The camp will be after the free agency, if Quinn and Peterka show themselves well there, then what to do with Hinostroza? Quinn has already completely dominated the AHL and will be in the NHL next season, obviously. Peterka also looked very good, but even if he starts next season in the AHL, he is unlikely to play there for a long time. I'm not against Hinostroza, but if the kids deserve their place, give it to them.

Yup and we haven't made the playoffs in 11 years.

It's good to have that depth knocking at the door. It's not like we are going to miss the cap space (Pegula may not want to pay though) if we sign Hino to $1.5M or a Cagguila-type. If our prospects can't beat out Hino or Cagguila

I guess I'm living in the past when the prospects provided the depth and Pominville came up to the team. I want Rochester to become the development team and the Sabres to make the playoffs. I guess you can say I am wrong, but they were 52-24-6 that season. Where are we now?

I'm not sure what I am proposing is going against Adams' view of not boxing out prospects. I'm talking about signing the Hino's of free agency to one year contracts, not 5 years. Not hard to move them aside if need be with where our cap is right now.

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Dubi Doo - Mar 11, 2022 at 3:59 PM

Ha, even a Bills legend loved this win:



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Dingo44 - Mar 11, 2022 at 4:01 PM

Gio did say Jack has not treated people the right way and Jack has ownership of people's perception of him and needs to change it.

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Fjordy - Mar 11, 2022 at 4:02 PM

Yup and we haven't made the playoffs in 11 years.

It's good to have that depth knocking at the door. It's not like we are going to miss the cap space (Pegula may not want to pay though) if we sign Hino to $1.5M or a Cagguila-type. If our prospects can't beat out Hino or Cagguila

I guess I'm living in the past when the prospects provided the depth and Pominville came up to the team. I want Rochester to become the development team and the Sabres to make the playoffs. I guess you can say I am wrong, but they were 52-24-6 that season. Where are we now?

I'm not sure what I am proposing is going against Adams' view of not boxing out prospects. I'm talking about signing the Hino's of free agency to one year contracts, not 5 years. Not hard to move them aside if need be with where our cap is right now.

The problem is not in the cap or the contract, but in the place in lineup. Agree Hinostrosa if that be a spare? I do not think so. As a player I really like Hinostroza, but I don't see a place for him in the squad next season, if he accepts a smaller role, of course sign him. But obviously for Adams, kids are a priority, and he has already spoken about this more than once. He won't rush them, but it's not good for them to spend too much time in the AHL. Look at what's going on with some prospects at the Kings, it's bad for their development.

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Jacob582 - Mar 11, 2022 at 4:11 PM

The problem is not in the cap or the contract, but in the place in lineup. Agree Hinostrosa if that be a spare? I do not think so. As a player I really like Hinostroza, but I don't see a place for him in the squad next season, if he accepts a smaller role, of course sign him. But obviously for Adams, kids are a priority, and he has already spoken about this more than once. He won't rush them, but it's not good for them to spend too much time in the AHL. Look at what's going on with some prospects at the Kings, it's bad for their development.

I understand that you have to fit players on the roster. You can have only so many.

I want an extra veteran or two in training camp. Sort it out as you go through camp. Injuries end up solving a lot of roster issues. I rather have roster options of Hino and Quinn rather than just Quinn and then rely on Murray as depth (sorry to Murray fans).

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old kummelweck - Mar 11, 2022 at 4:18 PM

* 5 minutes

I guess it just seemed like longer. Funny how bidet talk has that effect on me.

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Jacob582 - Mar 11, 2022 at 4:25 PM

I guess it just seemed like longer. Funny how bidet talk has that effect on me.

It was.

* 7 minutes

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Fjordy - Mar 11, 2022 at 4:29 PM

I understand that you have to fit players on the roster. You can have only so many.

I want an extra veteran or two in training camp. Sort it out as you go through camp. Injuries end up solving a lot of roster issues. I rather have roster options of Hino and Quinn rather than just Quinn and then rely on Murray as depth (sorry to Murray fans).

I just don't think Hiinostroza would sign such a contract, but I agree that depth is important too.

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Jacob582 - Mar 11, 2022 at 4:46 PM

I just don't think Hiinostroza would sign such a contract, but I agree that depth is important too.

Yeah, players and agents are astute at studying depth charts for a team. Hino wants to get paid, but he also wants to be able to play to continue his career.

He hasn't made $1.5M since 2019-2020. Would he take that from the Sabres despite seeing a lot of prospects knocking at the door?

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Fjordy - Mar 11, 2022 at 4:49 PM

Yeah, players and agents are astute at studying depth charts for a team. Hino wants to get paid, but he also wants to be able to play to continue his career.

He hasn't made $1.5M since 2019-2020. Would he take that from the Sabres despite seeing a lot of prospects knocking at the door?

Well, they could pay him more, I was talking more about his place in the lineup, he will already know if the coach prefers Jack Quinn over him. Considering his current season, he could get a place in the lineup even in a better team.

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Jacob582 - Mar 11, 2022 at 4:55 PM

Well, they could pay him more, I was talking more about his place in the lineup, he will already know if the coach prefers Jack Quinn over him. Considering his current season, he could get a place in the lineup even in a better team.

or he'll just know he has a guaranteed one-way contract and has to beat out 20 year olds like he might have to do on other teams anyway.

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Fjordy - Mar 11, 2022 at 4:58 PM

or he'll just know he has a guaranteed one-way contract and has to beat out 2o year olds like he might have to do on other teams anyway.

In fact, he should easily get a contract from many teams and where he will not have such competition from such prospects, it's funny, but we have really very good prospects. Like I said, if they can sign him, sure sign him, but I'm not sure if they will, and I'm also not sure if Hinostroza will want to stay.

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Jacob582 - Mar 11, 2022 at 5:02 PM

In fact, he should easily get a contract from many teams and where he will not have such competition from such prospects, it's funny, but we have really very good prospects. Like I said, if they can sign him, sure sign him, but I'm not sure if they will, and I'm also not sure if Hinostroza will want to stay.

He may need to take a discount then since many teams don't have the cap space like we have.

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Dex - Mar 11, 2022 at 5:32 PM

Jokiharju had a good game. He was railing Jack all game.

I'm not gunna pret nd I didn't root for Jack when he was here. He had games where he was the best in the league but it was never consistent enough and now I see why. Loved Tuch in his draft year and thrilled with him.

I made a post a few days ago in another thread that went something like this - I never really liked Eichel - his demeanor on and off the ice, his giving up on plays, his attitude during interviews. The way he seemed to sulk, the way he did not consistently lead by example, his arrogance. I hated what I heard about how he treated people out in public and in the arena, including some of his teammates. He seemed like a giant douchebag. A highly skilled douchebag who could raise his game to among the best in the league, when he felt motivated. He was a douchebag, but he was our douchebag - so I held my nose and rooted for him.

Once he was traded, I unplugged by nose and breathed fresh air again and really started to appreciate being a fan of the Sabres unfettered by how I felt about myself for rooting for him

Yesterday, in the post game comments he made, he made one of the stupidest comments I have ever heard. Paraphrasing, he said the building was the loudest he's ever heard it. Then sarcastically stated that all it took was seven years and him leaving for the building to erupt. I think he was trying to be clever and put down the Sabres fans for not realizing how great he was all that time. No Jack, it was the the real Sabres fans showing how they really felt about you - without having to hold their noses.

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cybresabre - Mar 11, 2022 at 5:50 PM

If that is why Eakin did that...

Sometimes the arena just plays a banger

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Jacob582 - Mar 11, 2022 at 6:08 PM

Sometimes the arena just plays a banger

From there ESPN panned to Eichel who seemed to give a dirty look.

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MarkusKetterer - Mar 11, 2022 at 6:22 PM

Sometimes the arena just plays a banger

Sometimes you don’t even need to say anything to trash talk

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KiwiGriff - Mar 11, 2022 at 6:27 PM

I made a post a few days ago in another thread that went something like this - I never really liked Eichel - his demeanor on and off the ice, his giving up on plays, his attitude during interviews. The way he seemed to sulk, the way he did not consistently lead by example, his arrogance. I hated what I heard about how he treated people out in public and in the arena, including some of his teammates. He seemed like a giant douchebag. A highly skilled douchebag who could raise his game to among the best in the league, when he felt motivated. He was a douchebag, but he was our douchebag - so I held my nose and rooted for him.

Once he was traded, I unplugged by nose and breathed fresh air again and really started to appreciate being a fan of the Sabres unfettered by how I felt about myself for rooting for him

Yesterday, in the post game comments he made, he made one of the stupidest comments I have ever heard. Paraphrasing, he said the building was the loudest he's ever heard it. Then sarcastically stated that all it took was seven years and him leaving for the building to erupt. I think he was trying to be clever and put down the Sabres fans for not realizing how great he was all that time. No Jack, it was the the real Sabres fans showing how they really felt about you - without having to hold their noses.

I was going to post something here but this pretty much sums up my views too. Good skill, atrocious attitude and shouldn’t have been in a leadership position.

On a personal level though I was always sympathetic to his injury. Imagine having something so wrong with your body but after getting a range of advice, finding that your employer won’t let you do what you want to do

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tsujimoto74 - Mar 11, 2022 at 7:20 PM

Sometimes the arena just plays a banger

This might be the single best thing Cody Eakin has done in his career

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old kummelweck - Mar 11, 2022 at 8:21 PM

OK, out of the loop here. What did pham say about Josh Allen?

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AGENTHARRY - Mar 11, 2022 at 8:56 PM

Sometimes the arena just plays a banger

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AGENTHARRY - Mar 11, 2022 at 8:59 PM

Eakin a team player for sure too bad the camera didn't catch the bench

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BuffaloGooner - Mar 11, 2022 at 9:11 PM

OK, out of the loop here. What did pham say about Josh Allen?

He said he and Eichel did a video together and afterwards Allen went to PSE and said never make me to do a video with him again. And then he retracted it. He’s a bigger clown than Harrington.

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Diaspora - Mar 11, 2022 at 9:14 PM

Sometimes the arena just plays a banger

Holy shit. I saw that and never put it together. If Eakin is doing that now, can you imagine the vibe in that locker room when Jack was there? It had to have been pretty, pretty tense.

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SpilledBrewskie - Mar 11, 2022 at 9:38 PM

This might be the single best thing Cody Eakin has done in his career

Not trying to be a dick but the dude literally just had surgery on his neck. Unless they just completely hate the guy then this is kinda low. But maybe they just really disliked him that much.

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brian_griffin - Mar 11, 2022 at 9:56 PM

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Pretty sure Eichel had a pre-thought response to the media well before puck drop.

I believe from "Scott Tenorman Must Die" ???? If so, a true gold-star episode.

G: Spending $38 on a 300 level seat, but sitting in the 3rd row of the 100's.

Skinner, Tuch, Thompson immediately going over to the penalty box to give props to Hayden and Fitz after their fights.

This is the loudest and most energy I can remember in this arena in at least a decade(ugly? lol).

Fans were HEATED after that no call hook in the o-zone lead to a turn over which led to Krebs got called for hooking in the d-zone breaking up the play. Okposo laid into the refs for this.

Skinner got slashed hard on the hands and got super pissed and let the refs have it, slapped his stick into the boards from the bench a few times. No call of course.

It was so much fun to actually go to a real hockey game again.

Not gonna repeat what others have said.

The Jack tribute video got mega MEGA booed until it switched to showing him at Roswell. Then he got a standing ovation.

B:

U: Jesus christ refs. could you be any more biased?

Glad you got to attend in person.

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These are both "banner of the year" worthy. Well-played.

The Karen harumphing was great, then he immediately follows it with the seven months / me leaving comment as if that isn't a self-own.

That said, hopefully the booing stops. Nothing says "We deeply give many shits about you" more than booing every time someone touches the puck.

Best wishes to you, PK, T, A. Hope you all are well.

Agreed. I wanted it to work with Eichel because it's hard to come across his talent. I didn't need him to be Stevie Yzerman.

Yeah, but Eichel crapped on all the Stevie-Y-lites. A real leader doesn't need to put people down to build him/herself up.

And was often just a tad caustic to many that disagreed with him.

I usually sided with him. While I admire his commitment to "argue" his points, if I was ever that tenaciously determined to be right with, e.g., my spouse, I'd be a lonely man. I tried to meet up with him in FLA a couple times. Timing / logistics didn't work. Others who have met and/or know him say he's not argumentative & is actually easygoing in real life.


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Good to see Craig Anderson get his 300th. If he wants to be back next season, even if UPL is the starter, I'm fine paying him whatever he wants because he seems a very cohesive piece to the Sabres team as a whole. Imagine how much worse off BUF would be this season if he hadn't agreed to sign with them.

Lastly, on the post-game tribute, as Anderson skates to the bench, you can see a fan holding an "Eichel Is A Quitter" sign.

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Bryanbryoil - Mar 11, 2022 at 9:57 PM

here are the quotes.

I've always appreciated his talent, but f*** this guy. Hopefully this is the start of the Sabres turning their team around, you guys deserve better than this asshat.

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Jacob582 - Mar 11, 2022 at 9:57 PM

Holy shit. I saw that and never put it together. If Eakin is doing that now, can you imagine the vibe in that locker room when Jack was there? It had to have been pretty, pretty tense.

It's just a petty red head quarrel. When Eichel was here he made sure that his red head superiority was known.

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SabresFanNorthPortFL - Mar 11, 2022 at 11:08 PM

If I had one wish, it'd be that somewhere in Michagan Owen Power is thinking; "come over the middle next year Jack....."

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Paxon - Mar 11, 2022 at 11:15 PM

If I had one wish, it'd be that somewhere in Michagan Owen Power is thinking; "come over the middle next year Jack....."

Don't get your hopes up. Power has almost no mean to his game this far.

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Chainshot - Mar 12, 2022 at 12:23 AM

Not trying to be a dick but the dude literally just had surgery on his neck. Unless they just completely hate the guy then this is kinda low. But maybe they just really disliked him that much.

It's a motion that Eichel used to do all the time when he was annoyed, kind of a tick.

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Chainshot - Mar 12, 2022 at 12:25 AM

If I had one wish, it'd be that somewhere in Michagan Owen Power is thinking; "come over the middle next year Jack....."

Don't get your hopes up. Power has almost no mean to his game this far.

Pax has the right of it. Power is not that sort of defenseman.

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