SotasicA
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This.
It's almost like bringing a bit of WJC spirit to these games.
The last two North America games >>>> anything that happened in Sochi.
The "Gimmick" Teams Are The Best Part of WCOH
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This.
It's almost like bringing a bit of WJC spirit to these games.
The last two North America games >>>> anything that happened in Sochi.
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Like a world junior team on horse steroids.
Agreed, the quality of hockey is incredible all around, the grumps were wrong.
Because principle is a dumb reason not to try something. I think you're afraid that you might actually enjoy it.
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Choralone
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What I've learned in all these threads is that Canada whooping other hockey nations - and occasionally other nations winning in an upset - is serious business. If we allow region- or age-based teams to compete we are endangering the sanctity of bragging rights for patriots, and not only will the bonds of hockey be dissolved, but the very atoms that bind our reality will melt away in chaos and entropy.
In other words:
In other words:
I think the success of it will give them something to think about, but I don't think it was in their original plans. They know that if they want this to be taken more seriously (and as a rival/substitute for the Olympics) that it needs to be national teams only.
But who knows. That team is basically the greatest thing to ever hit the ice, so I'm sure they'll try to find some way to bring it back. Maybe work it into the NHL allstar game somehow. Maybe a U26 vs. 26+ allstar game?
And somehow team Germany and team Switzerland loosing every game 6-0 would be meaningful??
The big 6 teams are still there and still national teams like every other canada/world cup/olympics, Team Canada looks like team Canada, Team Russia looks like team Russia, Team Sweden looks like team Sweden so unless all the complainers are Germans or slovenians or swiss I honestly have no clue what you are complaining about.
muh purity.. i wanna see Kazakhstan lose!!!!
I'll take two competitive "gimmick" teams that allow us to see Kopitar, Hossa, Mcdavid, Mathews etc actually compete over a couple sacrificial lambs
Anyone that calls this a glorified Allstar game should be ignored.. they clearly have either never watched an allstar game or they have not watched a single game in this tournament.
Sens of Anarchy
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I think we need more of these made up teams - Canada's supremacy should be somehow bit blunted to get a more even tournament. Maybe we won't need 5 teams from Europe but, say, Team Nordic and Team Europe. They would be scarily good. Plus Team u23 Europe which would be a grand sight!
Sens of Anarchy
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Team Europe makes sense to allow Kopitar, Zuccarello and other good players to participate. Team North American attempted to do the same thing by giving more good players a chance, but it's not necessary for Team USA and Canada would be better off having a separate Quebec team along with the Anglo-Canada team.
Kasper92
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I agree. The olympics are so tired, and tiring to follow for that matter. The nationalism fed to us through two World Wars that century has passed. The notion of smaller insignificant hockey countries getting to play with the world's best in a long, drawn out tournament is "just so special and wonderful" but that's not what this is about. There isn't time in the WCOH. Only the best in the world can make it to the NHL we get right to the point. I'd like to see other "gimmick" teams or alternative NHL tournaments in the future. The idea of province teams was enacted in games during the 12-13 lockout. Europe, Czech, possibly Finland should combine in some way. The rest of the NHL could pick say 2 star teams (or more) who would be very strong. There are so many possibilities it doesn't have to be drawn out and pretentious like the olympics.
My only problem is it's ending too fast! How about a world league of the top 50% of the NHL?
If hockey was more popular something like it could work.[MOD]
So it's not really appropriate here maybe. It's more like I want to see the true Team Canada with McDavid on it and Team USA with Auston.
I have less troube with Team Europe IF there s Team Slovakia, Team Germany, Team Demark. To give guys like Kopitar a chance to play, but then Team Europe is oviously out of gas. I'm still for national teams as motivation to those nations. who cares if they are overmatched now against Canada? They could manage an upset. If not now then in 5-10 years maybe.
The tournament right now is a rigged show to bring U23 and Europe into the semis. They need proof for theit weird concept, so they will d as much as they can to make it happen.
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I'd like to see other "gimmick" teams or alternative NHL tournaments in the future. The idea of province teams was enacted in games during the 12-13 lockout. Europe, Czech, possibly Finland should combine in some way. The rest of the NHL could pick say 2 star teams (or more) who would be very strong. There are so many possibilities it doesn't have to be drawn out and pretentious like the olympics.
My only problem is it's ending too fast! How about a world league of the top 50% of the NHL?
I seriously don't want to live in your world.
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I'd like to see other "gimmick" teams or alternative NHL tournaments in the future. The idea of province teams was enacted in games during the 12-13 lockout. Europe, Czech, possibly Finland should combine in some way. The rest of the NHL could pick say 2 star teams (or more) who would be very strong. There are so many possibilities it doesn't have to be drawn out and pretentious like the olympics.
My only problem is it's ending too fast! How about a world league of the top 50% of the NHL?
Why not just have 8 random teams, each of different colour, selected by 8 random all stars? Then players can play for the pride of their colour!
gwh
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Won't be next one. This one has internet footprint lower than KHL season start.
u19 cricket world cup is about 10 times more buzz than NHL worldcup.
Hard to deny. An extremely talented squad with some misreads here and there, makes for an open game. NA is tough to cope with, Sweden showed how not to, and that is to let the middle completely open for the long pass. At the same time Sweden also showed that the best way to counter NA is to play about the same kind of game as them with intensive fore-check. NA got a bit disoriented when under pressure.
Why not just play a 7 series all-star with North America vs. Europe? That would be more interesting than using the current gimmick teams.
To much politics and infighting to see which guys from which nations make team. A headache in other words..
T NA...11 Canucks, 12 Yanks = good job in selections , but ppl weren't all that emotionally invested in the YG's early on, anyway...
I actually like the format as it is. But they'll probably go back to an 8 nation format which is fine too..
Gary Nylund
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This is the way I see it too. The gimmick teams were a one time thing but it seems that people love this NA team so much and they exceeded all expectations so who knows? I really hope that if they to try to "bring it back" it's not at the expense of a national teams only tournament. Then again, if NHL players go to the Olympics, maybe it doesn't matter much.
NickLidstrom
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You don't have to watch anything. Like I said, I'm not trying to tell you what to do.
Uno Bench
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This is the future. Soon there will be no teams. Only a big bunch of players, whit nationalities of no importance, playing for different salary cap-groups.. -Ouf forgot, we are there already (Thanks to the almighty church of the NHL) ..
DeltaSwede
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OP, I agree with you that it's fun to watch a team made out of young players with such talent play together, but it just sucks that it had to be in this environment. It makes it a glorified allstars tournament. Don't get me started on how stupid team Europe is for so many reasons. It really stresses a lot of north americans grouping Europe as some sort of single commodity that is so far from how it is in reality. A french guy will have pretty much nothing culturally in common with someone from Poland. I'm not saying all north americans are this ignorant, but from my experiences spending a lot of time in the states, Europe is often viewed as one single entity rather than a place made out of loads and loads of differences between countries. The whole idea is just really strange. Team North America in many ways is a lot more sensible to group together.
The Allstar weekend is so outdated at this point, why couldn't they sort out something like the NBA do? Rookies vs. Sophomores. Or make two teams out of a mixture of the two.
The Allstar weekend is so outdated at this point, why couldn't they sort out something like the NBA do? Rookies vs. Sophomores. Or make two teams out of a mixture of the two.
