Post-Game Talk: Four Nations | Canada def. USA - 3-2 (Our Game. Our Country.)

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Having spent almost 20 years living in various states I can totally relate.

Most of my personal experience living here has been absolutely fantastic, and I'm in a very privileged position when it comes my career and work aspirations so I've been shielded from a lot of negativity.

However, I'm not gonna deny that the last few years have been testing my capacity to stay here in the states. I've never wanted to move back home so badly, and seems like a matter of when, not if.

we uprooted and left after the 2016 election. it wasn’t the only reason, but it gave us the push we needed.

it felt like such a gigantically heavy decision at the time. we had green cards, owned a place, it was the only place our kid had evern known, i had an incredibly stable career that was thrown completely into turmoil for years after. but i’ll never forget when we passed through immigration at YVR and handed them the inventory of our stuff that was arriving separately in a moving van. everyone in the room got up from whatever they were doing and cheered.

apparently, the staff at immigration had been doing this for months for everyone moving back to canada.
It's starting to look more and more like I need to move on. Unless I get into a top PhD program here I'll probably go back and do my PhD in Canada or Europe.
 
Someone should call out Gretzky next for selling his soul to M*G*A.

As far as I’m concerned he’s no longer the great one in my books. I’ll give that title to Lemieux. The best player in the game is the one who comes back from cancer and chemo and radiation treatments and puts up a Hart season and arguably one of the best seasonal performances of all time.
What if Lemieux, who spent all of his professional career in Pittsburgh USA, is not much different? Who will follow?

It’s a fact that most Canadian greats spent decades playing and more importantly living in the US. They got paid in USD, bought mansions there, met their wives there, and now have their businesses there. Gretzky, Subban, Biz, and others are on TNT not CBC.

They live in a different universe than us.
 
PK Subban is obnoxious and some of his takes are over the top about Aliu either has some sort of personal beef with him or is out to lunch himself. PK donated $10M over 7 years to a children’s hospital in Montreal, the largest ever donated from a Canadian athlete. He launched a seperate initiative in Nashville to help bring together and improve understanding and communication between marginalized communities and low income families and the Nashville Police department and continued it in New Jersey. He has been a staunch advocate for women’s hockey, he set up a joint partnership with Air Canada gifting hundreds of sick kids Christmas presents and made it a yearly thing in Montreal, he helped cater meals to health workers during the pandemic in Ottawa, pledged and then honoured donations for Ukranian cancer patients/war refugees in Montreal, contributed $1.9M in honour of his idol Jean Béliveau who had his own foundation for helping disabled and marginalized youth in Montreal.

PK is about as Canadian as it gets and I’m sure isn’t some M*G* nut. Him retweeting Trump didn’t strike me as support but rather just at an attempt at providing commentary ahead of an anticipated game.
 
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Of course Miller blows his load about Trump. No wonder there was a rift. He was an open Thin Blue Line supporter as well.

Always knew Subban was a snake too, guy only cares about one thing - whatever keeps PK Subban in the spotlight.
 
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PK Subban is obnoxious and some of his takes are over the top about Aliu either has some sort of personal beef with him or is out to lunch himself. PK donated $10M over 7 years to a children’s hospital in Montreal, the largest ever donated from a Canadian athlete. He launched a seperate initiative in Nashville to help bring together and improve understanding and communication between marginalized communities and low income families and the Nashville Police department and continued it in New Jersey. He has been a staunch advocate for women’s hockey, he set up a joint partnership with Air Canada gifting hundreds of sick kids Christmas presents and made it a yearly thing in Montreal, he helped cater meals to health workers during the pandemic in Ottawa, pledged and then honoured donations for Ukranian cancer patients/war refugees in Montreal, contributed $1.9M in honour of his idol Jean Béliveau who had his own foundation for helping disabled and marginalized youth in Montreal.

PK is about as Canadian as it gets and I’m sure isn’t some M*G* nut. Him retweeting Trump didn’t strike me as support but rather just at an attempt at providing commentary ahead of an anticipated game.

somewhat related: Lindsey Vonn: I Won’t Represent Donald Trump at Olympics 2018
 
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I don’t care about the politics of the game but I do know one thing. The NHL is absolutely loving it especially with what Trump and his press secretary said earlier. This will drive ratings in both countries.

The NHL is sitting there watching this like

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people need to not take all the trolling and showmanship so seriously. if we win this game trump will have forgotten hockey exists by midnight. try to take the same attitude or this is asymmetrical warefare. it's just a game.

and fwiw, trump is just working the crowd here. he's not going to bring 60 new congress seats, a dozen new senators and 20 million votes for president into us politics because he knows who will get those votes, so canadian sovereignty is not in issue. what he is going to do is mess with canada just as much as you and our government rise to the bait and he will do it because our government is politically hostile to him and won't shut up about that even though we are economically and militarily completely at the mercy of the us (by our choice). trump will remind us about that last part in many ways until canadian politicians learn to stop taking shots at him.
 
Too bad they couldn't have subbed in Tom Wilson for this game.

I live in Texas...people are joking with me about this 51st state BS, but I know they'd be fine if it happened, it would be cool and funny to them...so its difficult to be professional and diplomatic, being a guest in their country. I might live in the US, but I am Canadian, always will be and I don't think they've ever tried to think of it if the shoe were on the other foot.

Go Canada go!!
 
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So what if we offer his brother (Luke), $11.5M as an RFA this off-season?

Worth it to try and solve the problem?

It's like when Scott Niedermayer was a UFA and everyone thought he would want to come home...he made his decision based on ANA having his brother Rob. ANA overpaid to get + retain Rob (got him two years before Scott hit UFA).
I've wondered the same. I always felt like this was Gillis' plan when he brought in Cal O'Reilly.
 
PK Subban is obnoxious and some of his takes are over the top about Aliu either has some sort of personal beef with him or is out to lunch himself. PK donated $10M over 7 years to a children’s hospital in Montreal, the largest ever donated from a Canadian athlete. He launched a seperate initiative in Nashville to help bring together and improve understanding and communication between marginalized communities and low income families and the Nashville Police department and continued it in New Jersey. He has been a staunch advocate for women’s hockey, he set up a joint partnership with Air Canada gifting hundreds of sick kids Christmas presents and made it a yearly thing in Montreal, he helped cater meals to health workers during the pandemic in Ottawa, pledged and then honoured donations for Ukranian cancer patients/war refugees in Montreal, contributed $1.9M in honour of his idol Jean Béliveau who had his own foundation for helping disabled and marginalized youth in Montreal.

PK is about as Canadian as it gets and I’m sure isn’t some M*G* nut. Him retweeting Trump didn’t strike me as support but rather just at an attempt at providing commentary ahead of an anticipated game.
"Trizzy Train is coming"

Such deep and thoughtful commentary

people need to not take all the trolling and showmanship so seriously. if we win this game trump will have forgotten hockey exists by midnight. try to take the same attitude or this is asymmetrical warefare. it's just a game.

and fwiw, trump is just working the crowd here. he's not going to bring 60 new congress seats, a dozen new senators and 20 million votes for president into us politics because he knows who will get those votes, so canadian sovereignty is not in issue. what he is going to do is mess with canada just as much as you and our government rise to the bait and he will do it because our government is politically hostile to him and won't shut up about that even though we are economically and militarily completely at the mercy of the us (by our choice). trump will remind us about that last part in many ways until canadian politicians learn to stop taking shots at him.
Go back to the U.S.
 
big zzzzzzzzzzzz all around, and It's not 2016 anymore, things change, who cares, move on. Not our country.


Hopefully Canada will win the HOCKEY GAME!
Should be a great game no matter what (jordan pls).
 
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one thing about the internet is if you post a reasonable pragmatic sane middle of the road viewpoint on a controversial issue there is always someone who can't handle anyone harshing their extremish buzz.
Your argument is that Trump trying to economically wreck Canada and constantly saber-rattling about destroying Canada's sovereignty is fine, actually. Because our government is "hostile" to him, apparently.

This is not a "middle-of-the-road" or "sane" viewpoint. It's false at best, and more likely, delusional.
 

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