Speculation: The Bruins and Jeremy Swayman are far apart in contract term (length) and dollar amount.

[Hobnobs]

He's not worth 10 mil imo. Feels a bit rich for his body of work. ~7 is probably where it should be at atm. It will be interesting to see what the B's do about this.

 

[wintersej]

If It's like Nylander then they will both fight for their beliefs until December 1st about 10 minutes before It's to late.

Yeah it’s starting to feel that way.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Yeah it’s starting to feel that way.

And then it will get done, and then you will find out that Swayman wanted 8.5, and and Sweeney was offering 7.9 and then this whole thing came down to 600-700K.

And then you will ask yourself why the f*** this took so long so long because there is NO reason it should have.

And then Swayman is going to suck because he missed 2 months of the year because Sweeney f***ed around and wouldn't pay him so now he's rusty.

But instead of scoring 7 goals like Nylander did, Swayman is going to get about 8 wins.

And then instead of blaming Sweeney for f***ing around and screwing your team because that IS what's he's doing.

Your fanbase is going to question Swayman for some reason.

And then in 25-26 he's going to be awesome and not look back.

And if this plays out like Nylander that's exactly what will happen

 

[Bruins4Lifer]

And then it will get done, and then you will find out that Swayman wanted 8.5, and and Sweeney was offering 7.9 and then this whole thing came down to 600-700K.

And then you will ask yourself why the f*** this took so long so long because there is NO reason it should have.

And then Swayman is going to suck because he missed 2 months of the year because Sweeney f***ed around and wouldn't pay him so now he's rusty.

But instead of scoring 7 goals like Nylander did, Swayman is going to get about 8 wins.

And then instead of blaming Sweeney for f***ing around and screwing your team because that IS what's he's doing.

Your fanbase is going to question Swayman for some reason.

And then in 25-26 he's going to be awesome and not look back.

And if this plays out like Nylander that's exactly what will happen

Refresh my memory, what $ value were the Leafs and Nylander at around this time in 2018? Who ended up moving the most off their number to get the deal done?

The Bruins and Swayman appear to be pretty far apart if you believe the rumors so far. Bruins are at 4yr x $6.25M and Swayman is at 8yr x $9.5M. Leafs and Nylander weren't that far apart were they?

I think the 8yr x $8M is the deal the large majority of Bruins fans are comfortable with and think is fair. Whichever side it turns out was trying their best to avoid that number, should be the one criticized/questioned the most.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Refresh my memory, what $ value were the Leafs and Nylander at around this time in 2018? Who ended up moving the most off their number to get the deal done?

The Bruins and Swayman appear to be pretty far apart if you believe the rumors so far. Bruins are at 4yr x $6.25M and Swayman is at 8yr x $9.5M. Leafs and Nylander weren't that far apart were they?

At the time the deal got done the talk was that the Leafs were at 6.2, Nylander eventually got 6.9.

That's why I said that if this plays out like Nylander you will find out that this is coming down to between 600-700K

And you are going to wonder why this took so long.

 

[wintersej]

Refresh my memory, what $ value were the Leafs and Nylander at around this time in 2018? Who ended up moving the most off their number to get the deal done?

The Bruins and Swayman appear to be pretty far apart if you believe the rumors so far. Bruins are at 4yr x $6.25M and Swayman is at 8yr x $9.5M. Leafs and Nylander weren't that far apart were they?

I think the 8yr x $8M is the deal the large majority of Bruins fans are comfortable with and think is fair. Whichever side it turns out was trying their best to avoid that number, should be the one criticized/questioned the most.

In fairness Friedman said they have multiple on the table including an 8 year. We just don’t know the AAV on the 8 year. It would certainly be more than 6.25 you would assume since it’s no longer half RFA years in the deal.

At the time the deal got done the talk was that the Leafs were at 6.2, Nylander eventually got 6.9.

That's why I said that if this plays out like Nylander you will find out that this is coming down to between 600-700K

And you are going to wonder why this took so long.

Gross is a squeeze every penny PIA and Sweeney is a my way or the highway guy. Will be super curious who blinks most.

 

[Ciao]

We have seen it in past a goalie sit out an entire year (Almost two years actually) during contract dispute

Khabibulin sat out 1999-2000 season playing in IHL over contract dispute. Dispute continued thru most of next season as well before the Yotes finally traded his rights to Lightning

We also saw Joseph consider it after being traded to Edmonton and Oilers unwilling to give him contract he wanted (And the split with Ranford they wanted that was dumb idea). Eventually the Oilers did smart thing and traded Ranford and signed Joseph but it took half a season to get to that point

Swayman could very well miss entire season at his age 25 (Turns 26 during season) and survive

No reason to expect him to surrender in talks to B's as past has seen either team back down (Oilers) or team ultimately trading away player (Khabibulin)

If he truly feels he is worth it and has leverage he can sit it out

Fat chance.

 

[Bruins4Lifer]

In fairness Friedman said they have multiple on the table including an 8 year. We just don’t know the AAV on the 8 year. It would certainly be more than 6.25 you would assume since it’s no longer half RFA years in the deal.

A few weeks ago on the 32 thoughts podcast, I remember EF mentioning a Bruins' 8yr offer was "in the sixes", but he didn't seem very sure of when it was offered.

Hard to say if that's any closer than 4yr x $6.25M to what Swayman wants.

 

[BostonBob]

Hard to say if that's any closer than 4yr x $6.25M to what Swayman wants.

I'd have to think that if that's what Swayman was asking for then it would already be a done deal.

 

[The don godfather]

Nice to see finally a general manager with some cahoonas and holding firm and not budging.

 

[centipede2233]

Boston management is no pushover. Cam Neely is the president. They don’t call him Cam “kick his a** sea bass” Neely for nothin

 

[PROUD PAPA]

They must be making some progress even if it’s not being shared with the gossip columnists aka insiders.

 

[nbwingsfan]

We have seen it in past a goalie sit out an entire year (Almost two years actually) during contract dispute

Khabibulin sat out 1999-2000 season playing in IHL over contract dispute. Dispute continued thru most of next season as well before the Yotes finally traded his rights to Lightning

We also saw Joseph consider it after being traded to Edmonton and Oilers unwilling to give him contract he wanted (And the split with Ranford they wanted that was dumb idea). Eventually the Oilers did smart thing and traded Ranford and signed Joseph but it took half a season to get to that point

Swayman could very well miss entire season at his age 25 (Turns 26 during season) and survive

No reason to expect him to surrender in talks to B's as past has seen either team back down (Oilers) or team ultimately trading away player (Khabibulin)

If he truly feels he is worth it and has leverage he can sit it out

When you have to go back 25 years to a guy playing in a league that doesn’t even exist anymore you don’t have much of a point.

Or even a point at all. Especially when your next point was a guy “considering it” lol.

 

[TD Charlie]

He wants 8 years, that's alot LNH : Jeremy Swayman vise 8 ans, les négociations avec les Bruins se poursuivent | RDS

I’d like him to sign for a lot of years, so…cool

 

[BostonBob]

He wants 8 years, that's alot LNH : Jeremy Swayman vise 8 ans, les négociations avec les Bruins se poursuivent | RDS

English version: RFA Jeremy Swayman focused on eight-year deal as talks continue with Boston Bruins | TSN

 

[CDN24]

Worst Case scenario for Swayman (and probably best for Bruins) is that Korpisalo plays well like he did in Columbus/LA and Ullmark looks rather ordinary in Ottawa.

 

[HockeyVirus]

Bruins in trouble with their current goaltending

 

[joestevens29]

Worst Case scenario for Swayman (and probably best for Bruins) is that Korpisalo plays well like he did in Columbus/LA and Ullmark looks rather ordinary in Ottawa.

I mean he looked like shit most his time in cbj

 

[nbwingsfan]

Bruins in trouble with their current goaltending

Based two pre season games in which they won one and the other only had 7 regulars playing…?

 

[HockeyVirus]

Based two pre season games in which they won one and the other only had 7 regulars playing…?

Shaky goaltending in both games

 

[VeteranPresence]

Crazy that Boston's leverage is being eroded by the literal hour... first Doughty goes down with a nasty injury, which likely puts LA into a holding pattern until his recovery timeline is clearer rather than positioning them to make a major trade for a starter (AKA Swayman). They were one of two teams in the West I'd say had both the assets AND the need.

Then the Ducks lose Gibson to appendicitis, who was not the only the other team I had in mind but also benches a goalie they could've theoretically targeted in return. Combined with Bussi looking about what you'd expect a guy with less than 100 pro games to perform like tonight, and Sway's blank check could be as big as one of those Powerball ones.

If I'm a UHC or Kraken player I'm starting to get a bit nervous because those were the only other two clubs I could see putting together a reasonable package for him...

 

[nbwingsfan]

Shaky goaltending in both games

And Samuel Honzek will lead the league in scoring, right?

 

[Voight]

I can't believe so many people took the bait on that Boston/Edmonton trade proposal that was clearly meant as a joke.

This is HFBoards, are you really that surprised?

Crazy that Boston's leverage is being eroded by the literal hour... first Doughty goes down with a nasty injury, which likely puts LA into a holding pattern until his recovery timeline is clearer rather than positioning them to make a major trade for a starter (AKA Swayman). They were one of two teams in the West I'd say had both the assets AND the need.

Then the Ducks lose Gibson to appendicitis, who was not the only the other team I had in mind but also benches a goalie they could've theoretically targeted in return. Combined with Bussi looking about what you'd expect a guy with less than 100 pro games to perform like tonight, and Sway's blank check could be as big as one of those Powerball ones.

If I'm a UHC or Kraken player I'm starting to get a bit nervous because those were the only other two clubs I could see putting together a reasonable package for him...

Kings have Kuemper, Rittich and Copley under contract. I'm also not sure Blake wants to gall in a yet another player after the PLD debacle.

 

[Voight]

Matthews has a chronic case of Shitthebeditis every spring, yes.

I know this is a popular narrative but FWIW he has 48 points in 55 games, could be better given his immense skill but people act like hes Rick Nash.

 

[gstommylee]

Shaky goaltending in both games

its pre-season games... They aren't playing 100% entire of their NHL regular players. Can't use pre-season games that are basically half AHL or sometimes half prospects to judge how a NHL regular season game is gonna look.