Bellefour20
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The Leafs have one of the best medical programs in the league, being able to get a lot from injury-plagued players considered washed up from their previous teams.
The Athletic: Maple Leafs and Panthers rosters weakened the most during the off season
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Campbell having his best seasons (Is that saying that much?) Doesn't change how bad Leaf goaltending was last year, and they still had the 4th best record overall. 29th in 5 on 5 save%. Bottom 5 goaltending.
Dubas is not a fan of overpaying support talent like all those Gms did on July 13th. Ok to overpay a 3rd/4th liner, but not pay Mitch Marner, I guess?
Campbell is a good goalie, great guy, but 5x5 is risky with him.
Nothingbutglass
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socko
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Campbell is an average starting goalie. I think he has a 0.916 save percentage over the last 2 seasons. Pretty solid. He had a really good playoffs vs Montreal and was a little weaker vs Tampa (but Vasy wasn't that great either).
Murray has been a disaster lately. Injured often, roughly 0.900 save percentage, to pretend like this isn't a likely downgrade is some serious wishful thinking.
And do the Leafs not need a goalie in 3 years? Are prices going to suddenly go down on goalies?
Dubas clearly has plans to go ultra cheap on goalie after Murray's contract is up. He's going to have to find another Campbell. That's just not likely or good management.
Murray has been a disaster lately. Injured often, roughly 0.900 save percentage, to pretend like this isn't a likely downgrade is some serious wishful thinking.
And do the Leafs not need a goalie in 3 years? Are prices going to suddenly go down on goalies?
Dubas clearly has plans to go ultra cheap on goalie after Murray's contract is up. He's going to have to find another Campbell. That's just not likely or good management.
Nothingbutglass
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So, you are a burner account? Its a joke on your user name...no teeth, get it? Only people that humorless are zeke & deke
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They had the capspace to meet them... It was a decision by the front office to not pursue negotions (for better or for worse)
Senscore
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All three must be related to a departed mooseOak...
It was not the money, it was the term...
Thats not getting smoked. Sorry but you're striking out like Joey Gallo.
Smoked is blown out in 4 straight games by 3-5 goals a game.
Weegar has been a problem with contract negotiations since being drafted. If you don’t think he will ask for a Sergachev type deal, then you don’t know Weegar.
I agree with Florida I've been saying that for awhile.
But I'm not sure about the Leafs, I mean I guests if you are just looking at point totals then you are probably right they probably won't hit 115 points next year.
But I'm not sure that that's enough, becuause most of the east is finishing with fewer points, I don't think the cutoff will be 100 points again next year I think that's a 1 off.
As for roster, the offense isn't any worse as of today.
The defense isn't any worse in fact you could argue it's better by virtue of having a full year of Giordano.
and I'm not sure the goaltending is any worse in fact you could argue it's better by virtue of Marazek not being there anymore.
I'm not sure the Leafs are worse but I'm not sure they aren't either
But I'm not sure about the Leafs, I mean I guests if you are just looking at point totals then you are probably right they probably won't hit 115 points next year.
But I'm not sure that that's enough, becuause most of the east is finishing with fewer points, I don't think the cutoff will be 100 points again next year I think that's a 1 off.
As for roster, the offense isn't any worse as of today.
The defense isn't any worse in fact you could argue it's better by virtue of having a full year of Giordano.
and I'm not sure the goaltending is any worse in fact you could argue it's better by virtue of Marazek not being there anymore.
I'm not sure the Leafs are worse but I'm not sure they aren't either
Golden_Jet
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Funny they couldn’t fix any Robidas Island players.
Ya it a burner account for sure.
Holymakinaw
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Mikeleyv and Kase's 36 goals & 60 points are gone, replaced by.......??
And our Goaltending is very likely worse than last season. There is zero proof that "Samsanov is better than Mrazek" and while Murray MIGHT rebound & be better than Campbell, there's bugger-all to suggest that he will.
The Leafs will be relying on the core for everything, and praying that the D holds up and that the Goaltending doesn't implode.
JimmyApples
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Leaf fans are in for an absolute shock when they watch Matt Murray play, and I can’t wait to see it.
Thanks again, boys
Thanks again, boys
Not sure of any teams fans, Leaf fans can be "Shocked" at bad goaltending. Did you miss their goaltending last year? 32nd in the NHL after the all-star break.Leaf fans are in for an absolute shock when they watch Matt Murray play, and I can’t wait to see it.
Thanks again, boys
Holymakinaw
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Oh we will once again try to "outscore our problems" and we'll win enough games to make the playoffs. I have no doubt about that.
But overall, it's troubling that we're 6 years into Matthews' & Marner's careers........their absolute PRIMES.......and we have zero plan in place between the pipes. Just band-aids again. It's just like Edmonton wasting McDavid's best years. We're doing the same, I think.
Jarnkrok had 30 points in only 66 games last year. They added him. He was just as good as Mikheyev overall.
I don't think Leafs have to "Pray" for their D. It's solid. Better than most in their division.
Holymakinaw
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Jamkrok won't score more than 10-12 goals this year. I forgot to add Spezza's 12 as well. So we have 47 goals out, and what........potentially 10-12 in?
And it's more "praying" for Muzzin to not be injured again half the season, or that Gio can stay healthy too, as he's really getting on in years. Our D is okay, but it's thin IMO. Sandin and Lily can't handle big minutes if we lose key guys for any length of time, I don't think. Not yet.
Not sure if Gio is on 3rd pair you can call that "Thin". And who's to say Lilly and Sandin can't play big minutes? They were solid last year. Time to play them more like other teams do with their young talent.
I do not see Sandin and Lilly as 3rd pair Ds in their careers at all. I think Lilly will be top 4 this year in fact
Oh and Jarnkrok can hit the 30+ points again that MIkheyev did last year, so not sure why you didn't even mention him. Mikheyev has hit 30 points once in his career
Rielly, Brodie, Muzzin, LIlly, Gio, Sandin (Still needs to be signed). Not sure that's really thin compared to the rest of the Atlantic. Florida's D looks worse easily.
Holymakinaw
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THere's a reason I stated Lilly and not Sandin. The left side is very deep (Too deep). The right, not so much. Lilly has an excellent chance at being top 4 D.
Holymakinaw
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Yeah sure, maybe so. But he's got what, 74 games experience? I HOPE he continues to develop. I HOPE he can handle the bigger workload. I HOPE he can withstand the punishing physicality of the post-season. He's decent enough, but also young and not very gritty. We shall see.
I really don't go by experience. In fact, Lily should have been playing in the playoffs. He sat because of "Experience" arguments. If you look around the NHL, Top organizations do give their good young talent lots of usage to prove themselves.
Lilly and Sandin had fantastic seasons in a 3rd pair role. Now time for more usage.
