The 2024 TRADE DEADLINE Thread

LongTimeDRWF

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I remember someone was screaming we had an easiest remaining schedule. Since then it was Panthers then Avs. Who's left? Boston, New York and Vancouver?
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I don't know about screaming, but according to Tankathon, 2 weeks ago Wings and Bolts had the easiest ride for the rest of the season, today it is NYI and Wings. (Last week, the wings were closer to the middle)

Wings are tied in points with Philly and Bolts with a game in hand, they are in charge of their destiny, 6 of the Wings final 20 games left are "Tougher" opponents, they need to get back on track and take care of business against the teams they should beat.

Gut and reality check time, if the Wings make it to the dance, they will have outperformed the stated goal of simply playing meaningful games in March.

I think if the Wings finish higher than one of Bolts, NYI or Philly (I expect Philly to fade) they will make it in, as others such as Devils, Caps and Pens have brutal gauntlets to garner the point required to make a sustained move.

The Wings have some major holes to fill and are exploited when on the road by the upper echelon teams, but they are making forward progress.
 

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I don't know about screaming, but according to Tankathon, 2 weeks ago Wings and Bolts had the easiest ride for the rest of the season, today it is NYI and Wings. (Last week, the wings were closer to the middle)

Wings are tied in points with Philly and Bolts with a game in hand, they are in charge of their destiny, 6 of the Wings final 20 games left are "Tougher" opponents, they need to get back on track and take care of business against the teams they should beat.

Gut and reality check time, if the Wings make it to the dance, they will have outperformed the stated goal of simply playing meaningful games in March.

I think if the Wings finish higher than one of Bolts, NYI or Philly (I expect Philly to fade) they will make it in, as others such as Devils, Caps and Pens have brutal gauntlets to garner the point required to make a sustained move.

The Wings have some major holes to fill and are exploited when on the road by the upper echelon teams, but they are making forward progress.
The problem is that this chart classify us as "tough opponents" for the rest of the teams :) and we know how good we are
 

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Depending how they finish the season, I'd consider reshuffling everything. At some point Yzerman's going to have to realize he does actually need a player better than Larkin on offense if you want to seriously contend for a cup.

I think Yzerman looks to continually make the team better, I just don't think the returns for dealing any of those guys gets a significant piece back. At least not significant enough to make it worth dealing them.

If Yzerman really liked a lot of these guys, I think we'd be seeing more 5-7 year deals. The 2-4 year deals says to me that he values roster flexibility and that he's not bought in on a lot of these guys. So, I think he'd actually actually agree with you. The team needs to be better. But the moves have to be there to be made.
 

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I think Yzerman looks to continually make the team better, I just don't think the returns for dealing any of those guys gets a significant piece back. At least not significant enough to make it worth dealing them.

If Yzerman really liked a lot of these guys, I think we'd be seeing more 5-7 year deals. The 2-4 year deals says to me that he values roster flexibility and that he's not bought in on a lot of these guys. So, I think he'd actually actually agree with you. The team needs to be better. But the moves have to be there to be made.
Well I'd just double back to your original...

More picks/roster spots/cap create a lot of flexibility even if you just get 3rd and 4th rounders for guys on 1 year deals. No a reason to keep some guys on 1-year deals if you aren't sure you'll make the playoffs or have them long-term.
 

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The problem is that this chart classify us as "tough opponents" for the rest of the teams :) and we know how good we are
To add, "Toughest opponents" or "Easiest opponents" means nothing in the NHL. For, like, 85% of teams I would say.
 
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Snuggs

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Are we gonna get a title contender with lousy 3rd and 4th rd picks?

While I recognize its possible, it's been decades since the DRW have drafted a true difference maker, good enough to drive being a title contender, with such picks..

I think playoff experience at this point is more meaningful.

Extra mid rd picks are fodder at this point
No, but I'm not sure they're going to make the playoffs anymore either if an addition isn't made.
 

Zetterberg4Captain

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No, but I'm not sure they're going to make the playoffs anymore either if an addition isn't made.

Oh I agree

If SY makes zero additions he is at best coasting and at worse mailing it in..

We do not need a depth veteran 7th dmen typical TDL acquisition but acquiring a longer term asset, must be on his agenda
 
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lilidk

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Just looking at stats from last game against AVS. Fabbri, Sprong and Kostin played around 10 minutes. Probably next season they will not be with team
 

datsyukfan

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Oh I agree

If SY makes zero additions he is at best coasting and at worse mailing it in..

We do not need a depth veteran 7th dmen typical TDL acquisition but acquiring a longer term asset, must be on his agenda
They need a cost controlled top 4 d-man
 

OldnotDeadWings

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There's no need to trade away anyone, pending UFA or not, for low Draft picks unless they acquire or promote someone who makes that player redundant. If a fan can't see the value in making a concerted effort to finish off what the first three-quarters of the season has started, and what was clearly SY's goal last summer, I don't know what to tell them except they're oblivious to NHL reality in general and to the nature of SY in particular. They'll get back on track when Larkin comes back and .500 pace the rest of the season might be enough.

They do need to acquire or promote a forward. Kostin can't play. Whether it's a fringe 4th line winger who replaces him, or quality winger that pushes everyone else down a slot, or center that puts Veleno back on the wing, doesn't matter.
 

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Florida just resigned Forsling to an 8 year, 5.75 per deal, which is great for what he brings to the table.
 
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LongTimeDRWF

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The problem is that this chart classify us as "tough opponents" for the rest of the teams :) and we know how good we are
It is based on straight up math, the wings still have a decent point percentage (hence in a playoff spot) so I would expect them to show up as a tougher opponent, if they are not, then it is because those teams are facing even higher in the standings teams.

If you look at the layout, the games I think add to 18, not 20, as we still have a game to play with the Bolts and NYI and they limit the chart to max of 6 teams to display.

By no means are the wings a shoo-in, they still have to go take care of business and grab as many points as they can, compared to past years, they are in a good spot, win and they are in, no help needed (yet), one of the wings toughies left is the Preds, a team more or less on the same footing.

If they can hold on to a spot or at least real close until D-Boss is back, I like their chances, they were not going to maintain a 0.7 point percentage all of 2024, it gets a lot harder as the playoffs get closer and those closer to the prize start really tuning up for their runs.

All part of the process, learning how to deal with playoff hockey and races, now we will see how the team digs deep and responds.
 

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Washington continues to sell. That's good for us.
Toronto refuses to ever address their actual issues.
I mean, don't they need to improve their defense? They technical added an NHL defenseman to their roster. Is he very good, not at all, but they technically addressed an area of need.
 

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I mean, don't they need to improve their defense? They technical added an NHL defenseman to their roster. Is he very good, not at all, but they technically addressed an area of need.

It just seems like that would be similar to us adding a depth defenseman. They have lots of depth guys already on the back end who play the same way IMO.
 

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So, a lot of people here think that if Yzerman does make a splash/big trade, it'll be for someone totally out of left field.

May I interest you in Tomas Hertl? I mean that's out of left field right? lol
 
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So, a lot of people here think that if Yzerman does make a splash/big trade, it'll be for someone totally out of left field.

May I interest you in Tomas Hertl? I mean that's out of left field right? lol
I've always liked Hertl, don't love his contract though. He's 30 and has 6 years left at $8.137M. Plus, he has a NMC and guys tend to like staying in SJ.
 
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