The 2024-2025 Roster Thread

[DapperCam]

Adams to President and Appert to HC?

There really should be a crying emoji reaction.

 

[Chainshot]

Adams to President and Appert to HC?

Adams fired.

 

[OkimLom]

Adams fired.

Please be careful using those two words together…

 

[Chainshot]

Please be careful using those two words together…

Palms as monocots are not great fuel. They're an herbaceous plant, not one with the same xylem and phloem structure as dicots (trees), not the same sort of cellulose (wood) so I understand the idea of applying fire to Adams is not efficient fueling.

 

[Fjordy]

I fully expect guys like Quinn and Cozens to be potentially traded if KA or a replacement GM wake up, and then for both players to hit a resurgence and reach their potential elsewhere, because that seems to be the common theme with this team.

But regardless this team needs some surgery to shake things up. I highly doubt Kevyn Adams has it in him to do that. But Benson and Dahlin would be my only untouchables, and even with Dahlin, idk. Ruff has shown that the issue isn't just coaching, its the players, and the culture needs to be changed by making hockey trades and moving some of these guys. Make some waves. But a rebuild should not be in the cards, I don't think this fanbase can stomach another one so soon.

I don't trade Dahlin and Benson and trade Tage is also unlikely, given our situation with the centers.

 

[Der Jaeger]

ASSUMING that we aren't on his 10-team list, I don't see how Connor Muprhy isn't a Sabre, like, tomorrow. He's certainly an upgrade on Jokiharju/Bryson etc and I don't think he'd be cost prohibitive.

Maybe also Nick Foligno but I don't know where he fits on the roster.

Foligno would be a real leader

 

[DJN21]

Foligno would be a real leader

couldve just kept the better Foligno and had real leadership these past few years.....

 

[Sabre the Win]

ASSUMING that we aren't on his 10-team list, I don't see how Connor Muprhy isn't a Sabre, like, tomorrow. He's certainly an upgrade on Jokiharju/Bryson etc and I don't think he'd be cost prohibitive.

Maybe also Nick Foligno but I don't know where he fits on the roster.

He's probably not even on Adams radar

 

[Ace]

Quinn has played himself into a QO.

Peterka might be looking at a bridge.

Super awesome that we heard three years of excuses for not spending to improve the team directly tied to having to pay people that they aren’t going to pay.

Got to be worse then, now and in the future

 

[HaNotsri]

We need game breaking, top end talent or a roster without flaws that let us win with depth.

Option 1: Get leading players that can win us games
Option 2: Get rid of everyone that isn't good defensively and add a top 4 rhd as well as top 6 center (we will also need UPL to bounce back for this to work)

I'm not optimistic about our chances to fix this within a year so I lean towards option 3:

Recover some assetts by trading some of these players: Tuch, Peterka, Rosén, Greenway, Zucker, Jokiharju, Levi and then aggressively trade for star players (or use them in trades for stars).

Hopefully we can enter 2025/2026 with a legit center spine, top 4 d and starting goalie.

 

[HaNotsri]

ASSUMING that we aren't on his 10-team list, I don't see how Connor Muprhy isn't a Sabre, like, tomorrow. He's certainly an upgrade on Jokiharju/Bryson etc and I don't think he'd be cost prohibitive.

Maybe also Nick Foligno but I don't know where he fits on the roster.

I'd be interested in Teräväinen for the bottom 6 as well. He's cap dump level but I think he could be a good fit.

Krebs+Lafferty+Jokiharju+2025 2nd

Gives them a project, saves them cap space and delivers a decent pick.

We'd still need two blockbusters but the bottom pairing and bottom 6 would be ok at least.

 

[Beerz]

Did Krebs punch your kid or something?

Why are you shocked I dislike shitty players?

 

[truthbluth]

Assuming Byram’s next contract will be in the 6-8 range, and assuming that it would be awful roster construction to have 3 d taking up 30+% of your cap, you have to decide to let one of Dahlin, Power or Bryan go. Who you got?
I would have said Byram, easily, before the year. Now, I think it’d be tough to let him go. He’s not much older than Power, and I’d guess that he has, especially without a contract, significantly less trade value than Power. It’s really hard for me, but I probably trade Power, reluctantly, and try to extend Byram.

Edit: This is a question for Adams’ successor, who I am recklessly assuming is competent.

 

[Fjordy]

Assuming Byram’s next contract will be in the 6-8 range, and assuming that it would be awful roster construction to have 3 d taking up 30+% of your cap, you have to decide to let one of Dahlin, Power or Bryan go. Who you got?
I would have said Byram, easily, before the year. Now, I think it’d be tough to let him go. He’s not much older than Power, and I’d guess that he has, especially without a contract, significantly less trade value than Power. It’s really hard for me, but I probably trade Power, reluctantly, and try to extend Byram.

Edit: This is a question for Adams’ successor, who I am recklessly assuming is competent.

I would think about this too, we need to build top 4 correctly.

Dahlin - xxxx
Power/Byram - xxxx

 

[Jim Bob]

I would think about this too, we need to build top 4 correctly.

Dahlin - xxxx
Power/Byram - xxxx

I said this summer that the best way to build the blueline would be this:

Dahlin-[upgrade from Jokiharju]
Power-[solid veteran defensive RHD]
Byram-Clifton

And if you need to load up a Dahlin-[Power or Byram] pair, you have that club in your bag.

 

[TehDoak]

The missing idea - Ruff winds up as GM.

Adams to President and Appert to HC?

I hate we have a team where there is a non zero chance of all these happening.

 

[dickiedunnwrotethis]

I would think about this too, we need to build top 4 correctly.

Dahlin - xxxx
Power/Byram - xxxx

I don't think you necessarily need a RD for Dahlin. He seems quite comfortable playing on the right and it should be a lot easier finding a LD fit for him. But yeah, for roster balance one of Power/Byram needs to go.

 

[OkimLom]

I hate we have a team where there is a non zero chance of all these happening.

Wishing for Ruff to be GM is like watching someone not learning from past mistakes when they've had multiple opportunities to do so. Eventually, you're going to realize you are an idiot.

 

[Fjordy]

I said this summer that the best way to build the blueline would be this:

Dahlin-[upgrade from Jokiharju]
Power-[solid veteran defensive RHD]
Byram-Clifton

And if you need to load up a Dahlin-[Power or Byram] pair, you have that club in your bag.

Well I think that's too much even for me. We don't need so many LD PMD and Byram will need a new contract. Just trade one of them in some deal.

I don't think you necessarily need a RD for Dahlin. He seems quite comfortable playing on the right and it should be a lot easier finding a LD fit for him. But yeah, for roster balance one of Power/Byram needs to go.

Well, in theory yes, but I noticed that it's not Dahlin who plays RD, but Byram, and we don't need that in this case. And in general, Ruff has already said that he wants to see right-handed RDs. Although I don't think it would be critical if Dahlin plays RD and they find a LD for him in the first pair, ideally someone like Brodin or Hampus Lindholm type. It could even be someone like Rasmus Andersson.

 

[Jim Bob]

I hate we have a team where there is a non zero chance of all these happening.

I hate that these are the options that people are hoping for.

They are both nightmare fuel for me.

I love Lindy as a coach. But, as GM...

Adams as a POHO means Karmanos as GM. Which changes next to nothing since that is the structure that they have today just with title changes. If Karmanos had great ideas to improve things in short order, I expect Adams would listen given all we have heard from people about how Adams listens to everyone.

And Appert as HC...

 

[Fjordy]

Trotz looks like a terrible GM so far, not sure Ruff is necessarily a GM/POHO fit. Just hire either an experienced GM (which is also hard, there aren't many good options out there) or a POHO/Advisor who can find a GM (not necessarily experienced), but experienced in terms of front office/AGM.

 

[Chainshot]

Trotz looks like a terrible GM so far, not sure Ruff is necessarily a GM/POHO fit. Just hire either an experienced GM (which is also hard, there aren't many good options out there) or a POHO/Advisor who can find a GM (not necessarily experienced), but experienced in terms of front office/AGM.

I don't think it's a good idea either. Just what I think Pegula would do.

 

[Fjordy]

I don't think it's a good idea either. Just what I think Pegula would do.

Does Ruff need this? Maybe just the role of an advisor, but I don’t know why either. I think Lindy can advise hiring experienced guys for free, this seems obvious to everyone already.

 

[Jim Bob]

Flames Have Intriguing Trade Option in Sabres’ Dylan Cozens - The Hockey Writers Calgary Flames Latest News, Analysis & More

The Buffalo Sabres have reportedly gotten calls on Dylan Cozens, a player who could be of interest to the Calgary Flames.

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Given the enormous upside that remains with Cozens, he wouldn’t come cheap. One Flames fan took to X on Sunday (Dec. 9) to suggest moving the struggling Andrei Kuzmenko, prospect Sam Honzek, and the New Jersey Devils’ first-round pick (which the Flames acquired in the Jacob Markstrom trade) in exchange for Cozens. Kuzmenko, of course, would be added to the deal for cap purposes, while the really intriguing piece would be Honzek, who was selected 16th overall in 2023. The first-rounder would also be of interest to the Sabres, though it won’t be a high one given the success the Devils are having this season.

That would likely be the minimum it would take to get the Sabres to even consider moving Cozens, and is well worth the Flames inquiring about. Another pick or two may be needed to add to the mix, but that still could be worth it for the Flames given their strong desire to upgrade down the middle of the ice.

Cozens for Kuzmenko, Honzek, and picks....

 

[Fjordy]

Flames Have Intriguing Trade Option in Sabres’ Dylan Cozens - The Hockey Writers Calgary Flames Latest News, Analysis & More

The Buffalo Sabres have reportedly gotten calls on Dylan Cozens, a player who could be of interest to the Calgary Flames.

thehockeywriters.com

Cozens for Kuzmenko, Honzek, and picks....

Tell them we need top 4 RDs and top 6 C.