It’s funny, Dunn has literally said Berube is the best coach he’s ever had. Who would be the coach that would get more out of him you allude to?
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My personal favorites?
Gerard Gallant
Claude Julien
Bruce Cassidy
Jon Cooper
Tod McClellan
I don’t like the offensive system under Berube. I think given this roster, the Blues should be a lot better at 5v5 offense then what the statistics show. The Blues rely heavily on their PP and that doesn’t give me a lot of confidence.
Berube’s defensive system is top notch, so give him the credit he deserves there.
The only reason the Blues won in the playoffs last year was 5 on 5 play.
Were those coaches not under contract when we hired Berube as interim? Should we have fired Berube when Gallant was fired, half a season after he won a cup and had the Blues in first?
But I am all for writing names down on some paper. Any names really. Throwing them in the Stanley Cup we have laying around and drawing a couple out so we can pick our new GM and coach. Would surely yield better results than the current management.
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He asked for examples, I never said the acquisition of said coaches was reasonable.
But Berube isn’t without flaw, so I don’t see what your point is. The playoff run has nothing to do with the near full season we saw from October to March, where the teams 5 v 5 offense was subpar. You can relay that to Tarasenko missing the season, but one player carrying a teams entire 5 v 5 offense also doesn’t bode confidence.
Let’s not forget a coach taking over mid-season and starting out in training camp is a different ball game.
Idea that Dunn is a top 20 defenseman is laughable.
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I guess my point is that, uh, the people you are wanting replaced just won a championship. Like, literally a year ago, and only a few months ago ended their season in 1st place. I hope that if you are so lucky to have a job your boss holds a few more reasonable standards for you.
1. I think Parayko can fill the #1 defenseman just fine. Give him first team power play. Let it rip!
2. Faulk You! He will be the player we traded for once he is cast in the proper role. He needs PP time.
3. Mikkola is better than you think.
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Removing Pietrangelo isn't just a matter of Parayko taking over The #1 position. It's more like Pronger's leaving and The Blues only having MacInness left. Currently, they have a great anchor on both of their top 2 defensive shifts. Afterwards, they'll only have one on the top shift. It makes a big difference. Their defence will simply not be as solid and strong.
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Pro sports is becoming predictable and boring
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Pro sports is becoming predictable and boring
Ask yourself: Why did DA signed Faulk and Scandella?
Answer: Petro has named a price and its too high or Petro has dreams like Tavares of returning home to Toronto.
Answer: Petro has named a price and its too high or Petro has dreams like Tavares of returning home to Toronto.
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Petro can dream about Toronto all he wants but they would need to move more salary then we would to sign him
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Pro sports is becoming predictable and boring
And I'm not sure what the COVID economics are for NHL teams. Certainly there is zero revenue stream right now...sans whatever merchandise they can sell.
What will 2020-2021 season games look like? Half full stadiums?
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Yeah let's play against him a lot
Become the team that allows all it's Captains to walk in UFA, rather than extend them? Who assumes the "C" if Petro walks? What kind of shelf life do they have?
I would honestly prefer that to Pietrangelo signing with the Leafs. Even on Colorado, I would wish him well and honour him when he faces his former team. If he goes to Toronto, I hate that franchise so much I would instantly hate him, and get ready for some nasty comments from me if the Blues try and honour him in some kind of ceremony. Yes, I would rather he go to Colorado than Toronto!Yeah let's play against him a lot
Another thing lost in all this is, aside from blowing a hole in the defense and asking more of players in terms of matchups, they would need to find a way to replace Pietrangelo's offense. Going back to the beginning of last season, Pietrangelo is tied with Schwartz for 4th* in scoring amongst Blues players; both have 93 points with Schwartz in 1 less game
*Tarasenko almost assuredly would have leap frogged both Pietrangelo and Schwartz if he had played more than 10 games this year.
Most people point to Faulk and say "well he can replace that offense!" and I really don't think that's the case. Faulk has outscored Pietrangelo one time over the course of his career and that was by 3 points in 14-15. In 2015-16 Faulk and Pietrangelo both produced 37 points -in fairness to Faulk, he did it in 13 fewer games- but since then Pietrangelo has produced more offense while being miles better defensively. Since 16-17:
Pietrangelo- 299GP 58G 195Pts
Faulk- 302GP 41G 119Pts
That gets worse considering that for most of that time Pietrangelo was playing the very role Parayko is now in while still putting up high-end offense. Even if the plan is to just feed Faulk easy minutes and matchups in hopes he can find new offensive highs, someone still will need to draw the tougher matchups outside of Parayko and Scandella (despite the belief Pietrangelo is now sheltered nearly 33% of his TOI is still against what PuckIq considers "elite"). It's not dramatic to say without Pietrangelo the team goes from a contender to merely above average immediately given the impact he has at both ends of the ice. The Penguins won recently with worse d-corps than what the Blues would be rolling into next season with, but the Blues don't have anywhere near the talent up front that those teams did.
*Tarasenko almost assuredly would have leap frogged both Pietrangelo and Schwartz if he had played more than 10 games this year.
Most people point to Faulk and say "well he can replace that offense!" and I really don't think that's the case. Faulk has outscored Pietrangelo one time over the course of his career and that was by 3 points in 14-15. In 2015-16 Faulk and Pietrangelo both produced 37 points -in fairness to Faulk, he did it in 13 fewer games- but since then Pietrangelo has produced more offense while being miles better defensively. Since 16-17:
Pietrangelo- 299GP 58G 195Pts
Faulk- 302GP 41G 119Pts
That gets worse considering that for most of that time Pietrangelo was playing the very role Parayko is now in while still putting up high-end offense. Even if the plan is to just feed Faulk easy minutes and matchups in hopes he can find new offensive highs, someone still will need to draw the tougher matchups outside of Parayko and Scandella (despite the belief Pietrangelo is now sheltered nearly 33% of his TOI is still against what PuckIq considers "elite"). It's not dramatic to say without Pietrangelo the team goes from a contender to merely above average immediately given the impact he has at both ends of the ice. The Penguins won recently with worse d-corps than what the Blues would be rolling into next season with, but the Blues don't have anywhere near the talent up front that those teams did.
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