WC: Team USA 2025 - Golden

[WarriorofTime]

If the USA would actually bid for this thing, they could probably win it every once in a while. Put it on more North America ice, host it in a place with college rinks that you know are available.

 

[Eye of Ra]

If the USA would actually bid for this thing, they could probably win it every once in a while. Put it on more North America ice, host it in a place with college rinks that you know are available.

The 2008 tournament was held in Canada and it was a fantastic tournament.

 

[Kuracmugger]

If a player has played for USA Hockey's National Team Development Program or Team Canada, I believe they owe it to their programs / country to participate every couple years. It's not like they are being asked for a kidney.

Most times, they have easy lives (partially) because of what the programs provided and giving up 2 weeks once every 2 or 3 years does not seem like much to ask. Besides, if they needed something - like a job or a chance for their kid, they'd ask USNDP or Hockey Canada in a blink.

In my 20's, I was young and arrogant and I was sure I never needed to give back. I was wrong. The players (both Canadian and American who constantly refuse to go) are too.

I can understand the disappointment. Countries like germany,slovakia and switzerland usually get their guys when they are out of the NHL Playoffs. I mean Hischier played every year since 18-19 besides 19-20 when there were was no WC so it‘s definitley possible to go nearly every year if you play for a medicore NHL team. Barring injuries and no contract of course. And the players are usually excited to go play for their nation you don‘t really see that from the top american and canadian talent.

 

[WarriorofTime]

The 2008 tournament was held in Canada and it was a fantastic tournament.

Yeah I imagine a bit of a logstic issue with not knowing specifically when NHL/AHL/CHL arenas might be needed, but overall just a huge lack of interest from Canada/USA to bid more regularly.

 

[SK94]

The tournament is so much more popular in Europe so it is understandable that the IIHF does not push it to North America. Canada is also trying to get the WJC as much as the IIHF dares to give those tournaments to them, so they certainly are not pushing in any way to get this tournament. On the contrary, they are happy to support this tournament being played in Europe and then get more WJC. The USA belongs to a no mans land. Only the Olympics has interest to a large audience. Let's hope that Minnesota gets a lot of people in the stands during the holidays.

 

[SanDogBrewin]

Yeah I imagine a bit of a logstic issue with not knowing specifically when NHL/AHL/CHL arenas might be needed, but overall just a huge lack of interest from Canada/USA to bid more regularly.

Tough time of the year for the tournament in NA. Baseball has started, NBA and NHL playoffs already happening. When Canada Cup was thriving, all that was happening was MLB.

 

[AmericanDream]

They can do whatever they want, but in the same way we can criticize here as much as we want. Like it or not. Especially those whose careers USA Hockey has invested a lot.

However, I have not said anywhere that they owe us anything like you are trying to twist it.

Nowhere has anybody said a player owes the fans (us) anything. They owe USA Hockey only & I hope they get that respect. We as fans can criticize their decisions or non decisions, hence why this site exits..what an absolute clown he is...

 

[MatBarzal]

I believe that by ignoring the World Championship, America is disrespecting all European hockey. Probably because American hockey players put themselves above any European team. Look at the Canadians, they have won the World Championship many times, but they continue to carry strong teams. If the Spengler Cup had been held in the summer, they would have brought a strong squad there. There is no arrogance in them.

 

[MatBarzal]

I hope I didn't offend anyone with those words.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Tough time of the year for the tournament in NA. Baseball has started, NBA and NHL playoffs already happening. When Canada Cup was thriving, all that was happening was MLB.

NFL season started September 2 during 1984 Canada Cup and September 6 during 1981 Canada Cup. NCAA Football began first weekend of September in 1984.

 

[Omark]

Nowhere has anybody said a player owes the fans (us) anything. They owe USA Hockey only & I hope they get that respect. We as fans can criticize their decisions or non decisions, hence why this site exits..what an absolute clown he is...

Yeah. If the players build their skills in taxpayer funded hockey arenas - which is the case in Europe at least - then the players absolutely owe to their country. They must play for the country every chance they get. We need more social judgment for decliners, not less.

 

[AmericanDream]

And here we go again....that sucks, he was going to have a solid role here

 

[William H Bonney]

And here we go again....that sucks, he was going to have a solid role here

Calgary falling on the sword for the player. Compare this with Rasmus Andersson

 

[Rabid Ranger]

And here we go again....that sucks, he was going to have a solid role here

More room for Cole Caufield.

 

[SK94]

I hope they're waiting for Caufield and Hutson. If they say no, then plan B. Is there something going on with Smith and Brink that we don't know because USA Hockey hasn't announced them? Just because Coronato was missing from the list for a reason.

 

[ORRFForever]

Yeah I imagine a bit of a logstic issue with not knowing specifically when NHL/AHL/CHL arenas might be needed, but overall just a huge lack of interest from Canada/USA to bid more regularly.

Europe works because the teams / fans are in such proximity. They get together and party. TBH, it looks like a LOT of fun. That, of course, is not the case in Canada or the U.S.

The tournament is also too long for North American audiences. It's hard to get excited when the U.S.'s / Canada's first week opponents include Transylvania, Antarctica and the Congo. Who wants to tune into a 12-0 blowout?

Canadians will support the tournament to a lesser degree because, well, it's hockey and we know when to jump on board - LATE in week 2 - but ONLY IF Canada is doing well. Still, for the most part, Canadians don't care.

In summary : It's just not worth it financially to have the tournament in N.A.. It would cost a fortune to fly over / house all the European players and there is no gold at the end of the rainbow.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Europe benefits because the teams / fans are in such proximity. They get together and party. TBH, it looks like a LOT of fun. That, of course, is not the case in Canada or the U.S.

The tournament is also too long for North American audiences. It's hard to get motivated when the U.S.'s / Canada's first week opponents include Transylvania, Antarctica and the Congo. Who wants to tune into a 12-0 blowout?

Canadians will support the tournament to a lesser degree because, well, it's hockey and we know when to jump on board - LATE in week 2 - and only IF Canada is doing well. Still, for the most part, Canadians don't care.

In summary : It's just not worth it financially to have the tournament in N.A.. It would cost a fortune to fly over / house all the European players and there is no payoff.

I dream that one day it will be a USA-Canada Final by happenstance, as I think that is the only way you'd ever get American audiences to tune in. For that to happen, USA would have to actually make a final of course

 

[GermanRocket7]

Kinda bummed Zegras apparently didn't get an invite, because he sure looked a lot better in his last 25-ish games than the past two years before; was almost back on pace for his previous 60-points seasons.

That being said, I will definitely enjoy seeing many good (some great) players for the US and Germany on Sunday.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Kinda bummed Zegras apparently didn't get an invite, because he sure looked a lot better in his last 25-ish games than the past two years before; was almost back on pace for his previous 60-points seasons.

I think after how bad Zegras was at the event last year, USA Hockey may be a bit cool on him until he can get back to a high level of NHL play.

 

[ORRFForever]

I dream that one day it will be a USA-Canada Final by happenstance, as I think that is the only way you'd ever get American audiences to tune in. For that to happen, USA would have to actually make a final of course

Unfortunately, even then, MOST Americans will forget about the tournament immediately after. Canadians too. It just does not resonate.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Unfortunately, even then, MOST Americans will forget about the tournament immediately after. Canadians too. It just does not resonate.

Agree, and logistically, even if that ever did happen, the semis and final are on back to back days, so there wouldn't really be time to advertise/hype the moment compared to if there were an off-day.

 

[GermanRocket7]

I think after how bad Zegras was at the event last year, USA Hockey may be a bit cool on him until he can get back to a high level of NHL play.

Yeah, I get that. Furthermore, I can definitely confirm Zegras and a few others were, literally, out binge-drinking in Prague's Old Town district late in the evening before their quarter final match, as a friend of mine happened to run into them. Never got to know what happened internally after that and if these players were pretty much axed from USAH after the tournament for said incident.

 

[ORRFForever]

Agree, and logistically, even if that ever did happen, the semis and final are on back to back days, so there wouldn't really be time to advertise/hype the moment compared to if there were an off-day.

If there was money to be made, of even a chance of breaking even, someone would be doing it. It's just not doable.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Yeah, I get that. Furthermore, I can definitely confirm Zegras and a few others were, literally, out binge-drinking in Prague's Old Town district late in the evening before their quarter final match, as a friend of mine happened to run into them. Never got to know what happened internally after that and if these players were pretty much axed from USAH after the tournament for said incident.

Yeah not uncommon for USA guys to treat the event as a vacation with a minimal obligation as opposed to something they view as a mission to bring back a medal.

 

[Eye of Ra]

Yeah, I get that. Furthermore, I can definitely confirm Zegras and a few others were, literally, out binge-drinking in Prague's Old Town district late in the evening before their quarter final match, as a friend of mine happened to run into them. Never got to know what happened internally after that and if these players were pretty much axed from USAH after the tournament for said incident.

North Americans hockey players are so unproffesional. They are lacking the heart and work ethics that European players have. Not sure why it is like this.