WC: Team Sweden Roster
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Eye of Ra
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Rakell - Zibanejad - Hörnqvist
Nyquist - Backlund - Elias
Sörensen - Kempe - Janmark
Hagelin - JDLR - Pääjärvi
Melker Karlsson is a option too.
The injury Johan Larsson got against Belarus have clearly affected him btw, he was physical on the ice before the injury but after the injury he have zero finished checks. he needs to sit.
Nyquist - Backlund - Elias
Sörensen - Kempe - Janmark
Hagelin - JDLR - Pääjärvi
Melker Karlsson is a option too.
The injury Johan Larsson got against Belarus have clearly affected him btw, he was physical on the ice before the injury but after the injury he have zero finished checks. he needs to sit.
Pavels Dog
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More like he wasn’t playing France or getting massive amounts of PP opportunities in the earlier games. Hope it gives him confidence but he was still getting pushed around a lot by France at ES.
VictorLustig
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No he wasn't. I'm rewatching the game since I missed parts of it and I haven't seen him get pushed off the puck even once halfway through the game.
Eye of Ra
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yeah elias had a good game but the other youngster lias was invicible again, his grit and hustle is not there, he looks tired. everberg is bad. i feel bad for kempe....he is good and deserves better linemates.
Retroglyphs
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It's true, Lias had a bad day. But he's a great linemate for Kempe, and everyone should be allowed to have a bad day. Andersson will come back stronger next time.
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Retroglyphs
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Maybe. But I'd rather Team Sweden sit Elias Pettersson instead of Lias Andersson, if one of the young guns needs to make way. Pettersson is losing to many battles at the boards. He isn't physically strong enough to outbattle good defenders from top six opponents, while Andersson has the punch & is able to do that. It wouldn't surprise me, if Lias was a better fit for Backlund and Nyqvist on Sweden's 2nd formation.
theslatcher
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Ra hates Andersson for some reason.
Also, EP wasn't pushed around by the french, nobody was. I don't think EP even ever fell down this game, while pretty much everybody else did.
I hope that Larsson doesn't get a game, because if he does we'll either be stuck with Wikstrand as our 6th D, or only get 2 forwards from NHL.
DDRhockey
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Uhhh lias isnt as talented as pettersson.Maybe. But I'd rather Team Sweden sit Elias Pettersson instead of Lias Andersson, if one of the young guns needs to make way. Pettersson is losing to many battles at the boards. He isn't physically strong enough to outbattle good defenders from top six opponents, while Andersson has the punch & is able to do that. It wouldn't surprise me, if Lias was a better fit for Backlund and Nyqvist on Sweden's 2nd formation.
Andersson is lower ranked by gronborg and will probably sit
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No way we break up Rakell - Zibanejad - Janmark, that line has been great. I'd rather put Hörnqvist with Nyquist and Backlund to try to get them going, which in turn gives Pettersson easier match-ups on the third line.
I agree. I admit that I'm not Lias' biggest fan which make my opinion a bit subjective, but he really looks out of place. Him and Everberg should be the ones Grönborg remove from the line-up if anyone joins from the NHL.
Chimpradamus
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Pettersson might be more talented than Andersson, but Andersson is much more NHL ready than Pettersson. I don't see how it would benefit Pettersson playing in the AHL/ NHL next season, flying around like a lost mitten in an autumn storm. Andersson is much better than Pettersson in closer spaces with less time and Andersson has his two-way game to rely on. Pettersson is great when he's given space and time, but that's a rare commodity in the bath tub rink. He could serve as a PP specialist in AHL/ NHL, but I'm not sure how that's supposed to develop his game.
If I was him, I would stay another year in SEL and build up my strength before going over, because man does he look weak out there.
If I was him, I would stay another year in SEL and build up my strength before going over, because man does he look weak out there.
VictorLustig
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Been watching Pettersson since his J18 days and he has in every game been the weakest player on the ice, his last season with Timrå was comedy at times. Still he always finds ways around it after some adjustment. It's easy to dismiss him because he loses all board battles but he has smarts that nobody on this WC team comes close to.
theslatcher
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Rakell. Otherwise I agree.
EP should 100% not be in the SHL next year, that'd really hurt his development. If your main issue with him is how he works tight spaces(Klingberg said he reminds him of Kane in that regard) then do you think a big or small rink would be better for him to learn?
Chimpradamus
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It's not about proving anything, it's about preparing to prove yourself at the next stage. If you're not prepared, you're not prepared. Pettersson is not prepared, IMO. Players much stronger than Pettersson have failed the transition to the small ice. I think his chances suck.
Somehow, "loses all board battles" doesn't sound great in the bathtub, where puck and board battles are very, very common. He's quite one dimensional, yet can't win a board or puck battle to save his life. How is that supposed to make him succeed in a much faster, stronger league with way less space and time? That would mean he would have to play sheltered minutes in a top 6 role and even then I think he would struggle at his current state. If he can't get a top 6 role, he's so done for it's not even funny.
If he can't hold on to the puck against players from Belarusian, French and Czech leagues, how the heck is he going to manage facing the top players in the world? It doesn't matter how smart and skilled he is, if his opponents just knock him down and steal the puck from him at will.
Klingberg says Pettersson reminds him of Kane? Sure, but he's not Kane. Kane is a much better skater than he is. Improving his skating is also something that would do him well for the transition. Pettersson has the potential to be a great NHL player, but that's a long way to go.
Look at a player like Zuccarello. He also dominated in the SEL. He had to become a much better skater and stronger before he could find his role in the NHL. That's exactly what Pettersson has to do as well.
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VictorLustig
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Could Erik Karlsson win a puck battle his first 3 years in the league? Ryan Nugent Hopkins in his rookie year? Smart players find ways to avoid places where their weakness gets exposed, the players I mentioned did just that in the NHL and Pettersson has done so his entire career so far. Rewatch the game against France and tell me how many times Pettersson got outmuscled, it happened mostly against Belarus in the 1st game but got a lot better against the Czechs.
Almost stopped reading when you described Pettersson as one dimensional.
Retroglyphs
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Exactly. Elias is a great dangler and has this wonderful shot, but he totally lacks physicality, and looses the important battles at the boards vs. strong opponents that Lias is able to win.
It depends what you need really, there is no shortage of player who are strong along the boards on this team, there is however very few forwards on this team with a potential significant impact on the powerplay and Lias is not one of those, Elias is.
Chimpradamus
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Maybe so, but what good is he if he can only be a spectator if the puck ends up in the corner, he will struggle to be part of a cycle and he can only dump, never chase? What does smarts do if your team doesn't have the puck?
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I can see any additions playing in the last preliminary round game against Russia. No worries about missing QF (17th of May).
theslatcher
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Last year the Caps got knocked out on the 10th too, and Bäckström was able to play in groups vs Denmark(14th) & Slovakia(16th).
Our last two games in groups this year are on the 13th(Switzerland) and 15th(Russia), so if Nashville gets knocked out they'll be able to play vs Russia, and maaaybe against Switzerland.
Our last two games in groups this year are on the 13th(Switzerland) and 15th(Russia), so if Nashville gets knocked out they'll be able to play vs Russia, and maaaybe against Switzerland.
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