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joe89 said:
Can't get any NHLers to come > Blame the coach
Gets too many NHLers to come > Blame the coach

How Swede it is.
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Dela rose and pääjärvi are nhlers? Barely. Nystrom is correct in what he says.

Grönborg jumped shark.

I rather have robert rosen over our bottom nhlers.
 
joe89 said:
Can't get any NHLers to come > Blame the coach
Gets too many NHLers to come > Blame the coach

How Swede it is.
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That's not the problem though. It's mainly the weird invites. He invites Päjäärvi, DLR, Larsson, Hägg and Nordström but not Folin, Fantenberg or Lehner. That is really a headscratcher especially Lehner not getting the call.
 
DDRhockey said:
Dela rose and pääjärvi are nhlers? Barely. Nystrom is correct in what he says.

Grönborg jumped shark.

I rather have robert rosen over our bottom nhlers.
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You really don't want Rosén to play on a third or fourth line. Trust me. Been watching this guy for years. He probably has the best hockey-sense in the SHL but you really don't want him in that kind of role. Or in a top 6 role against top competition.
 
EK47 said:
Amazingly his skating doesn't look all that affected by the knee injury.
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Supposedly he is still walking with a limp off the ice just his skating isn't affected . Hell some people said he might even be faster now.
 
EK47 said:
That's not the problem though. It's mainly the weird invites. He invites Päjäärvi, DLR, Larsson, Hägg and Nordström but not Folin, Fantenberg or Lehner. That is really a headscratcher especially Lehner not getting the call.
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Lehner is on rehab, he couldn't come. Fantenberg got assigned to the AHL playoffs. So that leaves Folin, which I would've not invited(same with Hägg.) Have Brännström instead until a potential stanley cup reinforcement.

And after this game; Pääjärvi & DLR I'm ok with. DLR had one bad moment(goalie collision,) otherwise they were both perfectly servicable.
 
EK47 said:
That's not the problem though. It's mainly the weird invites. He invites Päjäärvi, DLR, Larsson, Hägg and Nordström but not Folin, Fantenberg or Lehner. That is really a headscratcher especially Lehner not getting the call.
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First of all, let's compare forwards to forwards and defense to defense. So it's Hägg, Folin, Fantenberg on defense. As I said earlier I haven't seen much of Hägg this season but I can see why you would choose the younger guy that played the most amount of games this season. They're not really a similar type of player, either. And as said Fantenberg was assigned. With that said(not a done deal with Hägg tho) they're six NHLers on defense so now they're holding spots for Hedman, Ekholm and Strålman. Small gamble for a potentially big reward, but not a headscratcher.

As for forwards, I think the management has a clearer picture than we do of what players are injured and how many spots they need to hold. If Rask, Lindholm etc. were a go we wouldn't have these invites. But we're still only up to 9 forwards one week before the tournament so I really don't see the problem. There's three spots left for opening night(Pettersson, Andersson as front-runners) and then there's a couple of spots beyond that aswell for later use too. If Landeskog, Nylander et. al. arrives, great, and if not that's the perfect amount of spots(3-5) for the guys in Europe to fight over.

There's about 15 invites right now and we have 25 roster spots. There's no jam, just a healthy competition. No one can convince me that we should have more than 5-6 guys from Europe on a WCH team, when there's about 80 guys playing NHL hockey in a season. Ideally I'd have a team of 25 NHLers, but when we're down to the third or fourth tier I understand why they don't take everybody available. That's why I think Nyström is out to lunch, he's looking for a problem that isn't there and he's overrating our European options(look no further than the Olympics for proof). He's also overplaying the Pettersson-angle that all the evil NHL grinders will take his spot(there's absolute no competition between DLR and Pettersson as an example; a gritty, speedy 4th liner killing penalties against a shifty playmaker playing powerplay). I want both on my team, but I don't want them competing against each other and I don't think they are.
 
And yes, DLR and Pääjärvi were visibly better than Klingberg, Everberg and Zackrisson tonight. They're not the sexy invites but they're still better than KHLers and NLA guys. I'll wait and see with Johan Larsson, who is the only doubtful invite in my book.
 
joe89 said:
First of all, let's compare forwards to forwards and defense to defense. So it's Hägg, Folin, Fantenberg on defense. As I said earlier I haven't seen much of Hägg this season but I can see why you would choose the younger guy that played the most amount of games this season. They're not really a similar type of player, either. And as said Fantenberg was assigned. With that said(not a done deal with Hägg tho) they're six NHLers on defense so now they're holding spots for Hedman, Ekholm and Strålman. Small gamble for a potentially big reward, but not a headscratcher.

As for forwards, I think the management has a clearer picture than we do of what players are injured and how many spots they need to hold. If Rask, Lindholm etc. were a go we wouldn't have these invites. But we're still only up to 9 forwards one week before the tournament so I really don't see the problem. There's three spots left for opening night(Pettersson, Andersson as front-runners) and then there's a couple of spots beyond that aswell for later use too. If Landeskog, Nylander et. al. arrives, great, and if not that's the perfect amount of spots(3-5) for the guys in Europe to fight over.

There's about 15 invites right now and we have 25 roster spots. There's no jam, just a healthy competition. No one can convince me that we should have more than 5-6 guys from Europe on a WCH team, when there's about 80 guys playing NHL hockey in a season. Ideally I'd have a team of 25 NHLers, but when we're down to the third or fourth tier I understand why they don't take everybody available. That's why I think Nyström is out to lunch, he's looking for a problem that isn't there and he's overrating our European options(look no further than the Olympics for proof). He's also overplaying the Pettersson-angle that all the evil NHL grinders will take his spot(there's absolute no competition between DLR and Pettersson as an example; a gritty, speedy 4th liner killing penalties against a shifty playmaker playing powerplay). I want both on my team, but I don't want them competing against each other and I don't think they are.
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At the end of the day elias pettersson should have a 100% whc spot. 2 games tryout is ridicilous and insulting for a premier talent like him
 
Zackrisson got a baptism to attend on saturday, so Klingberg has moved to the line with Norman & Everberg. Also, worth noting Kempe will play this weekend but hasn't arrived yet.

I'd like to see something like this on saturday, but Grönborg will probably swap Brännström & Wikstrand, and Jonsson & Everberg:

Janmark-Zibanejad-Kempe
Andersson-Backlund-Pettersson
Pääjärvi-Larsson-JDLR
Klingberg-Nilsson-Jonsson
Everberg

Gustafsson - Klingberg
OEL - Larsson
Brännström - Pilut
Wikstrand
 
DDRhockey said:
At the end of the day elias pettersson should have a 100% whc spot. 2 games tryout is ridicilous and insulting for a premier talent like him
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A long SHL playoff run can be mentally draining, especially for a young player. Silfverberg is an example of that.
 
joe89 said:
First of all, let's compare forwards to forwards and defense to defense. So it's Hägg, Folin, Fantenberg on defense. As I said earlier I haven't seen much of Hägg this season but I can see why you would choose the younger guy that played the most amount of games this season. They're not really a similar type of player, either. And as said Fantenberg was assigned. With that said(not a done deal with Hägg tho) they're six NHLers on defense so now they're holding spots for Hedman, Ekholm and Strålman. Small gamble for a potentially big reward, but not a headscratcher.

As for forwards, I think the management has a clearer picture than we do of what players are injured and how many spots they need to hold. If Rask, Lindholm etc. were a go we wouldn't have these invites. But we're still only up to 9 forwards one week before the tournament so I really don't see the problem. There's three spots left for opening night(Pettersson, Andersson as front-runners) and then there's a couple of spots beyond that aswell for later use too. If Landeskog, Nylander et. al. arrives, great, and if not that's the perfect amount of spots(3-5) for the guys in Europe to fight over.

There's about 15 invites right now and we have 25 roster spots. There's no jam, just a healthy competition. No one can convince me that we should have more than 5-6 guys from Europe on a WCH team, when there's about 80 guys playing NHL hockey in a season. Ideally I'd have a team of 25 NHLers, but when we're down to the third or fourth tier I understand why they don't take everybody available. That's why I think Nyström is out to lunch, he's looking for a problem that isn't there and he's overrating our European options(look no further than the Olympics for proof). He's also overplaying the Pettersson-angle that all the evil NHL grinders will take his spot(there's absolute no competition between DLR and Pettersson as an example; a gritty, speedy 4th liner killing penalties against a shifty playmaker playing powerplay). I want both on my team, but I don't want them competing against each other and I don't think they are.
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Well, when you put it that way.. I will admit that Pääjärvi was a lot better than expected. At least he and de la Rose were clearly better than all the guys on the euro grit line.

Will he invite Folin now that Hägg declined? 6’3 loves to hit, right handed shot, could handle either a 7th d role or a third pairing role well. Or will they wait and see if Nashville gets eliminated? Because right now I think they really wanna reward Brännströms play. So I really only think there is one spot left on defense.
 
EK47 said:
Will he invite Folin now that Hägg declined? 6’3 loves to hit, right handed shot, could handle either a 7th d role or a third pairing role well. Or will they wait and see if Nashville gets eliminated? Because right now I think they really wanna reward Brännströms play. So I really only think there is one spot left on defense.
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woul be ideal, but they will probaly ask anton lindholm, petter granberg or rahimi now. there is also dahlbeck and claesson.

there is good players in ahl too....fantenberg, aho, borgman, holm, rosen, liljegren, forsling, rasmus andersson...etc

ekholm will decline for sure....same with hedman and stralman...
 
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Eye of Ra said:
woul be ideal, but they will probaly ask anton lindholm, petter granberg or rahimi now. there is also dahlbeck and claesson.

there is good players in ahl too....fantenberg, aho, borgman, holm, rosen, liljegren, forsling, rasmus andersson...etc

ekholm will decline for sure....same with hedman and stralman...
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Ekholm loves to play for Tre Kronor, he has never declined. Hedman & Strålman would most likely accept too. idk why you are so negative when everything points otherwise.

The thing with them is, though, that they'll most likely get past the second round.
 
Eye of Ra said:
woul be ideal, but they will probaly ask anton lindholm, petter granberg or rahimi now. there is also dahlbeck and claesson.

there is good players in ahl too....fantenberg, aho, borgman, holm, rosen, liljegren, forsling, rasmus andersson...etc

ekholm will decline for sure....same with hedman and stralman...
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I forgot Ekholm became a dad like less then a month ago he’ll probably decline for sure. Hedman seems to have a good relationship with Grönborg.
 
EK47 said:
I forgot Ekholm became a dad like less then a month ago he’ll probably decline for sure. Hedman seems to have a good relationship with Grönborg.
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Forgot Ekholm had a kid a month ago, maybe not that likely now. Still a small chance, though.
 
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