Team Russia U-23 / good team?

[Bear12Good]

The best player in the NHL right now Anisimov)

 

[Appleyard]

Would be interesting to see every teams 93 born and younger teams, going off actual current ability (using WJC rules instead of WCOH rules... easier + seems more sensible, true perception of what would constitute an 'u-23' team right now):

Swedens for me:

F. Forsberg -- Rask -- W. Nylander
Burakovsky -- Zibanejad -- Rakell
W. Karlsson -- Wennberg -- Arvidsson
Eriksson Ek -- Lindholm -- Lindblom
Sundqvist
A. Nylander

Lindholm -- Brodin
Klefbom -- Forsling
Larsson -- Aho
Kylington

Ullmark
Lassinantti
Dansk

 

[moropanov]

U 23 teams in order would be 1. Can 2. Usa 3. Fin 4. Swe 5. Rus 6.cze 7.sui 8.svk/den

 

[Kshahdoo]

Would be interesting to see every teams 93 born and younger teams, going off actual current ability (using WJC rules instead of WCOH rules... easier + seems more sensible, true perception of what would constitute an 'u-23' team right now):

Swedens for me:

F. Forsberg -- Rask -- W. Nylander
Burakovsky -- Zibanejad -- Rakell
W. Karlsson -- Wennberg -- Arvidsson
Eriksson Ek -- Lindholm -- Lindblom
Sundqvist
A. Nylander

Lindholm -- Brodin
Klefbom -- Forsling
Larsson -- Aho
Kylington

Ullmark
Lassinantti
Dansk

Yeah, would be interesting, but it will never happen. U23 are full pro teams, with a lot of NHLers, so no point to even follow that soccer way to make Olympics an U23 tournament.

 

[Appleyard]

Yeah, would be interesting, but it will never happen. U23 are full pro teams, with a lot of NHLers, so no point to even follow that soccer way to make Olympics an U23 tournament.

Oh yeh, never in 1000 years! The teams would be really fun to watch though.

USA for example (wow, where are the USA's RW's?!):

Gaudreau -- Matthews -- Trocheck
J.T. Miller -- Galchenyuk -- Boucher
Tkachuk -- Larkin -- Hartman
Vesey -- Schmaltz -- Motte
Connor
Copp

Trouba -- Gostisbehere
Werenski-- S. Jones
Hanifin -- Pesce
Slavin

Gibson
Hellebuyck
Stolarz

and Canada:

Huberdeau -- McDavid -- MacKinnon
Domi -- Schiefele -- Marner
Drouin -- Nugent-Hopkins -- Konecny
Jenner -- Monahan -- Reinhart
Duclair
Horvat

Reilly -- Ekblad
Murray -- Hamilton
Severson -- Parayko
Ceci

Murray
Dreidger
Brossoit

 

[xxxx]

they could be doing a best-of-five series every 4 years, between NAU24 and Europe U24 imo, that could be a great marketing for the league

 

[Lataba76]

The best player in the NHL right now Anisimov)

Oh ! Scorer-Ranking 1st Place = best Player????
Very easy view!

 

[Lataba76]

I think many Canadians underrated the level of Russian team.

What do you expect from Canadiens? Russia is after coniderable times not competitive to Canada.
Look the recent Matches between Canada and Russia. The Russians has no Chance.
The big time of Soviet union is over !

 

[Kshahdoo]

Oh ! Scorer-Ranking 1st Place = best Player????
Very easy view!

Well, he's a scorer who does all other things, but FO. He isn't half a player like Eberle.

 

[Atas2000]

they could be doing a best-of-five series every 4 years, between NAU24 and Europe U24 imo, that could be a great marketing for the league

I'm not watching Team Europe. Boring. Team NA too. We've had the World Cup. I haven't watched one game of the gimmick teams excpet the one against Russia.

 

[Bear12Good]

What do you expect from Canadiens? Russia is after coniderable times not competitive to Canada.
Look the recent Matches between Canada and Russia. The Russians has no Chance.
The big time of Soviet union is over !

Russia is not playing at full power because of the system problems.
I think Russia can beat Canada

 

[moropanov]

Sure Russia can win Canada in 1 game, even Latvia can do it. It doesnt mean that Russia is even close to Canada's level overall. Russia's difference to Canada in guality is about same as Slovakia/Switserland compared to Russia.

 

[Lataba76]

Russia is not playing at full power because of the system problems.
I think Russia can beat Canada

No i think the gap to big to canada.

 

[Atas2000]

No i think the gap to big to canada.

there is no gap

 

[Bear12Good]

Sure Russia can win Canada in 1 game, even Latvia can do it. It doesnt mean that Russia is even close to Canada's level overall. Russia's difference to Canada in guality is about same as Slovakia/Switserland compared to Russia.

Nope.
Russia forwards line best in world (after Canada)

 

[JackSlater]

there is no gap

You're right, it may be a chasm more than a gap.

 

[Kshahdoo]

You're right, it may be a chasm more than a gap.

Or they may be equally good. It's hard to say without them playing each other.

 

[Bear12Good]

 

[JackSlater]

Or they may be equally good. It's hard to say without them playing each other.

While I am being facetious by mentioning a chasm, the context of the post by Labata76 implies that he is talking about the senior level, and there is a clear gap between Canada and Russia there.

Even if we restrict things to U23, if Russia is left to rely on a player like Grigorenko for its top centre, then there is a clear gap regardless of whether these teams have played each other. Defence for Russia isn't particularly good either, thought that may change when Provorov hits his stride eventually. Kucherov is certainly an elite, still underrated player though.

 

[jj cale]

there is no gap

Of course there is a gap and everyone knows it.

This act from you is getting very tiring to read.

 

[xxxx]

there is no gap

is there anything you have in mind that could support that? at least from your perspective?

 

[Bear12Good]

I would not call a gap -abyss.

Russia is weaker than Canada In two things: a defender and coaches. This WCOH and showed this thing.

 

[snipes]

there is no gap

Please. The gap is apparent to the entire hockey world and the best-on-best results speak for themselves.

Your D have been putrid compared to Canada. Your two best D players of the future developed in Canada (Provorov, Sergachev).

If you want to stick your head in the sand and ignore that, your choice.

Some of your next best up and coming D men play in the WHL. The WHL has long been arguably the best junior league in terms of developing NHL calibre D men for decades. Minulin, Zborovsky, and Dmitri Zaitsev are currently playing in the best junior league for D men.

 

[Kshahdoo]

Please. The gap is apparent to the entire hockey world and the best-on-best results speak for themselves.

Your D have been putrid compared to Canada. Your two best D players of the future developed in Canada (Provorov, Sergachev).

If you want to stick your head in the sand and ignore that, your choice.

Some of your next best up and coming D men play in the WHL. The WHL has long been arguably the best junior league in terms of developing NHL calibre D men for decades. Minulin, Zborovsky, and Dmitri Zaitsev are currently playing in the best junior league for D men.

Right now the best Russian defenseman is Nikita Zaitsev, and he's a KHL guy. As to future, there are so many young Russian defensemen, playing in the MHL, VHL and KHL right now, so nobody can guarantee, that one day some of them will become even better, than Zaitsev. And it's a very high level.

Yegor Rykov for example is just 19, and he's a solid SKA starter, which isn't that easy, considering the team can buy any defenseman in the world outside NHL.

 

[snipes]

Right now the best Russian defenseman is Nikita Zaitsev, and he's a KHL guy. As to future, there are so many young Russian defensemen, playing in the MHL, VHL and KHL right now, so nobody can guarantee, that one day some of them will become even better, than Zaitsev. And it's a very high level.

Yegor Rykov for example is just 19, and he's a solid SKA starter, which isn't that easy, considering the team can buy any defenseman in the world outside NHL.

Prospects. Zaitsev is in his mid-20s.

I think you guys are forgetting about Paigin, what is happening with him? I've heard some not so good things about Ak Bars Kazan.

Paigin put up good numbers with HK Sochi. Paigin is Edmonton Oiler property, and could one day be playing with Connor McDavid if we get him over, we want him over here. Why did Paigin do so well in Sochi but not so good playing for Ak Bars Kazan? I've heard some rumblings about the coaching.