Team Russia U-23 / good team?
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Pavel Buchnevich
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This team is stronger than Finland and the Czech Republic( WCH) like a minimum.
*Almost all the players o this team are regularly played in the finals of the World Juniors Championship.
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There is a problem with all those U-teams. You change the age pretty randomly and the effect is huge.
Obviously there a gaps. If you make it a U25 team it looks great with Tarasenko and Kuznetsov.
Russian U23 team will look good in a couple of years more when the D-men grow up.
It is more sensible to make up a team without the aforementioned Ovechkin generation.
Panarin - Kuznetsov - Tarasenko
Gusev - Grigorenko - Kucherov
Goldobin - Namestnikov - Buchnevich
Kaprizov - Prokhorkin - Yakupov
Barabanov - Kamenev - Soshnikov/Nichushkin
Korshkov - Kraskovskiy - Polunin
Some prospects might emerge too.
The D is more of a simple choice.
Zadorov - Zaitsev
Provorov - Tryamkin
Sergachev - Orlov
Paigin - Samorukov
But I still like the chances of some still young guys. D-men take longer and all.
Sorokin, Shesterkin.
Bear12Good
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The premise of this thread is very hard to discern?? As an entry to the WCH, it would not be in any way competitive. Team North America is an amalgam of the best 23 and under players on the North American continent. North American hockey is massive in comparison to all of Europe, much less Russia alone. The only way to have a competitive 23 and under team in the WCH would be to make it a European all-star team.
Pavel Buchnevich
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Why are you posting highlights of only USA vs. Russia? I'm not trying to troll or anything.
You are underestimating Finland. They have numerous really good NHL players. That Russian team you named has one really good NHL players, and a couple that are fringe players. They are good players, but its a young team, so its hard to be a good NHL player prior to 23, especially for Russian players who start out in Russia.
Czech Republic is very weak. I think Russia might be able to do well against them. The other teams, not so sure they are anywhere near as good as the other teams.
Why are you posting highlights of only USA vs. Russia? I'm not trying to troll or anything.
Maybe because their junior program is considered to be the best at the moment which might be close to the truth if you look at how rapidly the amount of top notch US prospects in the recent drafts increased.
How can any team that has Yakupov on it be considered a dream team? There is talk Edmonton may just put him on waivers to get rid of him. And Zaitsev is on your 1st pairing, he won't be 1st pairing on the 30th place Leafs.
You don't understand russian hockey. Your paradigma of 1st, 2nd and 3d pairings and your view on Yakupov are the typical NA narratives.
When I put Zaitsev on the "1st" pairing it doesn't mean I consider him a top 2 defenceman in the country.
If you think Yakupov is useless you just don't understand what the Oilers did to him. Neither you do how he could be implemented in a totally different style of play and system.
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So Russian almost U23 team has just won Karjala Cup and looked very good vs the best non-NHL competition. Remove Gusev, Shumakov, Sannikov and Kiselevich and add Kucherov, Provorov, Zadorov, Buchnevich, Kaprizov, Vasilevsky, Grigorenko, Namestnikov, and it's a very good team.
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Lol, do you mean Vasilevsky, Sorokin and Shesterkin is a poor goaltending? Probably, but still better, than NA U23 team had. And Provorov and Zadorov regularly play 20+ min games in the NHL. You can even add Tryamkin, who doesn't look bad on Vancouver right now, for a physical presence.
Pavel Buchnevich
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Russia has the best younger goalies.
Vasilevskiy is the best goalie in the world 25 or under. Shestyorkin, Sorokin and Samsonov are three of the best goalie prospects not in the NHL.
Their older goalies are pretty good as well. Bobrobsky and Varlamov are both top ten in the league.
Vasilevskiy is the best goalie in the world 25 or under. Shestyorkin, Sorokin and Samsonov are three of the best goalie prospects not in the NHL.
Their older goalies are pretty good as well. Bobrobsky and Varlamov are both top ten in the league.
Bear12Good
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Samsonov sucked at U20 4 Nations Tournament, he's nowhere close to elite status. I doubt even Vasilevsky and Sorokin are close to this status right now. And Shesterkin is way better than Samsonov as well.
Russian u 23 is not top 4 in world. Some meaningless karjala tournament doesnt prove anythink. These KHL scrubs cant play againts real competition any NHL team would crush them there's reason no many Russian's are drafted high these days and its lack of talent/skill.
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