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With Armstrong picking the team and with a need for at least 1 defenseman with a lot of size (especially on the PK), I think Parayko has the inside track for a spot on the team.

I had Weber being on the team to play this role. But now that he is hurt, I think Parayko has moved into that role.

I would feel much better taking him (or someone like him) and then 7 of the other defensemen that are being mentioned, rather than take 8 defensemen who all play the same way and couldn't clear the space in front of their net to save their lives.

It isn't about picking the best 8 defensemen. It is about picking the best unit of defensemen.
 
Yan Boisjoly said:
Theodore Pietrangelo
Nurse Makar
Reilly Doughty
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One of these pairings is barely an average NHL top pair. Neither Reilly or Doughty belong on this team, though I expect Doughty to get selected.

Yan Boisjoly said:
Mcdavid and Barzal on the same line :laugh:
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Why would they put them together? Two guys who need the puck most of their shift? That sounds like bad chemistry. McDavid should be playing with guys who don't need to carry the puck to be effective, e.g. Huberdeau, Stone, etc..
 
jcs0218 said:
With Armstrong picking the team and with a need for at least 1 defenseman with a lot of size (especially on the PK), I think Parayko has the inside track for a spot on the team.

I had Weber being on the team to play this role. But now that he is hurt, I think Parayko has moved into that role.

I would feel much better taking him (or someone like him) and then 7 of the other defensemen that are being mentioned, rather than take 8 defensemen who all play the same way and couldn't clear the space in front of their net to save their lives.

It isn't about picking the best 8 defensemen. It is about picking the best unit of defensemen.
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I agree with you that they'll look for some strong D-men to help round out the group. But Parayko is coming off a rough season and his participation will depend more on how he bounces back. Based on last year's play, Ekblad, Chychrun, and Nurse were all better, and all bring a lot of net clearing ability.
 
Huberdeau - McDavid - Mackinnon (top line)
Marchand - Crosby - Bergeron (veteran line)
Couturier - O'Reilly - Stone (shutdown line)
Point - Barzal - Marner (secondary scoring line)
Scheifele
Tavares

Theodore - Pietrangelo
Chabot - Hamilton
Morrissey - Makar
Chychrun - Doughty

Price
Fleury
Hart
 
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I think the first half of the season will be huge for a handful of players in terms of cementing their place (or losing it). Almost have to expect one or two names to emerge that aren't being generally considered right now.

I'm a lot more excited for this tourney then the World Cup, because of the split with the under 25 North American team. That tourney made it hard to be fully invested in Canada when some of my favorite Canadian players were on another team.
 
Jonathan Toews and John Tavares will both be on this team. I just can’t see them not bringing either. I think one of O’Rielly or Schiefele is left off.
 
heretik27 said:
Stone has experience in these types of tournaments though. He's proven to be a great shutdown presence when paired with players like RoR and Scheifele. They don't pick a guy like Stone for his offensive acumen when they have forwards like McDavid, Crosby, Mack etc...
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LOL and Marner doesn’t? He’s played at the World Juniors and one of the best wingers in the NHL. He is also better than Mark Stone easily
 
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I'm disappointed with how many people think Tavares should be selected. With the abundance of talent Canada has, particularly at the center position, there's zero need for what Tavares brings.

And it's not like he's got Toews' pedigree at these events. Tavares was a 4th line non-factor in Sochi before getting hurt and missing the entire medal round. He brings nothing to the table that Canada needs, especially in a bottom six role.
 
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francis246 said:
LOL and Marner doesn’t? He’s played at the World Juniors and one of the best wingers in the NHL. He is also better than Mark Stone easily
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Lighten up Francis. Stone's competed with the men on multiple occasions, bringing up the WJC against other kids is like comparing apples to oranges, it ain't the same competition. Not to mention they wouldn't fit into the same role on the team anyways. Stone is always on the shut down line, which when paired with guys like Scheifele and RoR dominated possession and the scoreboard against other teams.
 
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I didn't know Kuemper was canadian. I could see him playing well enough to be considered for the starting job. Hopefully this gives price motivation to take the regular season seriously.
 
It will be interesting to see how much Team Canada values chemistry when creating their roster. There are a number of combos we could see—some that include players that likely wouldn't make the team otherwise, but are proven to play well together:
  • Weegar - Ekblad
  • Pelech - Pulock
  • Marchand + Bergeron
  • Tavares + Marner
  • ROR + Perron?
Hell, I could even see Zach Hyman making the team is he performs well on McDavid's wing this season.

The defense in particular could go a number of ways. As of today, this would be my roster:


Huberdeau - McDavid - MacKinnon
Marchand - Crosby - Bergeron
Barzal - Point - Stone
Couturier - O'Reilly - Marner

(Scheifele, Stamkos, Tavares)

Chychrun - Makar
Theodore - Pietrangelo
Chabot - Ekblad

(Hamilton, Nurse, Doughty)

Price
Fleury
Kuemper
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I was hesitant to put McDavid and MacKinnon on the same line but in the end I think they'd just be too much for other teams to handle. It's not like the 3rd line would need MacKinnon to score; Barzal - Point - Stone would be a dominant offensive line in their own right.

I really think Chychrun should make the team. He's arguably Canada's 4th best defenseman and I think he'd be the perfect complement to Cale Makar. I'd say the same about Aaron Ekblad. His partner Weegar should be in consideration too, but likely won't. I had a hard time leaving him off the team, along with Adam Pelech.

Goaltending is fine on paper, but you never know. If we get good goaltending, we should win Gold. I have faith in Price.
 
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Sidney the Kidney said:
I'm disappointed with how many people think Tavares should be selected. With the abundance of talent Canada has, particularly at the center position, there's zero need for what Tavares brings.

And it's not like he's got Toews' pedigree at these events. Tavares was a 4th line non-factor in Sochi before getting hurt and missing the entire medal round. He brings nothing to the table that Canada needs, especially in a bottom six role.
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Tavares is a luxury, and as you note even at his peak he wasn't a make or break player for Canada. If he gets off to a good start to the season he could be a good option for a depth winger, but otherwise there are likely better options. He should be under consideration but nothing more right now.
 
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UseTheBoards said:
Huberdeau - McDavid - Marker
MacKinnon - Crosby - Stone
Marchand - Bergeron - O'Reilly
Point - Tavares - Scheifele
Horvat
Barzal

Makar - Pietrangelo
Theodore - Hamilton
Rielly - Pelech
Chabot

Price
Fleury
Binnington

MacKinnon and Did train together. Play them together. Give them Stone for pick recovery.

Hub and Mitch can skate with McD, Mitch can set him up or look for Hubs as a deadly second option.

Keep March and Bergy together, O'Reilly compliments them well. Same possession play, smart pick decisions, physical.

Tavares gets 4c as the grey hair on the line. Point and Scheifele bring the speed and the hands, Tavares does what he does best and sets up for screens and tips.

Edit - iPad autocorrect killed this post
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Yeah I can do better than that, good grief I forgot Stamkos.

McDavid - Crosby - MacKinnon
Huberdeau- Point - Marner
Marchand - Bergeron- Stone
Tavares - O'Reilly- Stamkos
Scheifele
Barzal
 
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Bubble players after this past season


Stock Greatly Increased

Barzal, Stone, Chychrun, Pelech, Toews, Kuemper

Stock Slightly Increased

Hamilton, Ekblad, Nurse, Huberdeau, Suzuki

Stock Slightly Decreased

Marner, Chabot, Tavares, Binnington

Stock Greatly Decreased

Hart, Reilly, Stamkos, Hall, Doughty, Weber, Morrisey, Horvat
 
jcs0218 said:
With Armstrong picking the team and with a need for at least 1 defenseman with a lot of size (especially on the PK), I think Parayko has the inside track for a spot on the team.

I had Weber being on the team to play this role. But now that he is hurt, I think Parayko has moved into that role.

I would feel much better taking him (or someone like him) and then 7 of the other defensemen that are being mentioned, rather than take 8 defensemen who all play the same way and couldn't clear the space in front of their net to save their lives.

It isn't about picking the best 8 defensemen. It is about picking the best unit of defensemen.
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Parayko is probably the top defenseman to not make the team for me as it stands now. If he has a strong start to the season then maybe he makes the 6/7 spot.
 
Beau Knows said:
Who gets letters?

C: Crosby
A: Bergeron, Stamkos? Marchand?
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Crosby as captain, then Bergeron and Pietrangelo. If Stamkos is there I think there is a good chance he will get an A too. Also wouldn't be surprised to see McDavid get an A. Wouldn't be shocked to see Stone or O'Reilly get one.
 
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Marchand --- McDavid --- MacKinnon
Huberdeau --- Crosby --- Stone
Tavares --- Point --- Marner
O'Reilly --- Couturier --- Bergeron
(Stamkos --- Scheifele --- Barzal)

Muzzin --- Makar
Ekblad --- Weegar
Theodore --- Pietro
(Pelech --- Hamilton)


Fleury?
Price?
(????)

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majormajor said:
I agree with you that they'll look for some strong D-men to help round out the group. But Parayko is coming off a rough season and his participation will depend more on how he bounces back. Based on last year's play, Ekblad, Chychrun, and Nurse were all better, and all bring a lot of net clearing ability.
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UseTheBoards said:
Parayko is probably the top defenseman to not make the team for me as it stands now. If he has a strong start to the season then maybe he makes the 6/7 spot.
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I am not sure any of Nurse, Ekblad, or Chychrun have the pure defense-first mentality required to play the role that Parayko would play.

Chychrun also doesn't have the overwhelming size to dominate in front of his own net the way Parayko does.

Some of these players may be "good" to "very good" at the role Parayko would play.

But when you have the option to dress 8 defenseman and have the wealth of talent to chose from that Canada does, then settling for "good" or "very good" isn't good enough. Especially when it comes to playing one very specific role (and very important role), such as being the crease-clearer on the PK.

You can pick puck-movers and good all-around defenseman with the other 7 selections.

But I think you need to pick the most elite crease-clearer that you can possibly get with that other 8th selection. To play on the PK, if nothing else. Not "good" or "very good", but "elite".

Price won't stop what he can't see. You need a giant defenseman to take care of that problem.

Price can't stop rebounds that go to opposing players in bad places in front of the net. A crease-clearing defenseman takes care of that problem.

I want one defenseman who is a giant and capable of taking care of this role.

Weber was my pick to play this role before he got seriously hurt. Now Parayko is my pick.
 
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