Team Canada 2022

[UseTheBoards]

Huberdeau - McDavid - Marker
MacKinnon - Crosby - Stone
Marchand - Bergeron - O'Reilly
Point - Tavares - Scheifele
Horvat
Barzal

Makar - Pietrangelo
Theodore - Hamilton
Rielly - Pelech
Chabot

Price
Fleury
Binnington

MacKinnon and Did train together. Play them together. Give them Stone for pick recovery.

Hub and Mitch can skate with McD, Mitch can set him up or look for Hubs as a deadly second option.

Keep March and Bergy together, O'Reilly compliments them well. Same possession play, smart pick decisions, physical.

Tavares gets 4c as the grey hair on the line. Point and Scheifele bring the speed and the hands, Tavares does what he does best and sets up for screens and tips.

Edit - iPad autocorrect killed this post

 

[majormajor]

Makar - Pietrangelo
Theodore - Hamilton
Rielly - Pelech
Chabot

You've got Makar and Pelech both playing opposite from the side they play on in the NHL. I can't imagine they want to use the Olympics as a venue for experiments like that.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

I think Marner is going to be there. High-end natural wingers will be coveted. If Marner gets knocked for his playoff efforts, so should Stone.

One of the interesting things I’ll be looking at is if they decide to play Point, or MacKinnon at centre. I think McDavid and Crosby are the two locks at centre. I just can’t see either of those guys moving to the wing.

 

[heretik27]

I think Marner is going to be there. High-end natural wingers will be coveted. If Marner gets knocked for his playoff efforts, so should Stone.

One of the interesting things I’ll be looking at is if they decide to play Point, or MacKinnon at centre. I think McDavid and Crosby are the two locks at centre. I just can’t see either of those guys moving to the wing.

Stone has experience in these types of tournaments though. He's proven to be a great shutdown presence when paired with players like RoR and Scheifele. They don't pick a guy like Stone for his offensive acumen when they have forwards like McDavid, Crosby, Mack etc...

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

If MacKinnon goes to the wing, I wouldn’t mind seeing this forward group. I feel like that second line would be so good with puck possession and wearing out teams.

Huberdeau - McDavid - Stone
Marchand - Crosby - MacKinnon
Schiefele - Point - Marner
Bergeron - O’Rielly - Barzal

 

[Gold Standard]

Stone has experience in these types of tournaments though. He's proven to be a great shutdown presence when paired with players like RoR and Scheifele. They don't pick a guy like Stone for his offensive acumen when they have forwards like McDavid, Crosby, Mack etc...

What types of tournaments are you talking about? World Hockey Championships? Stone is 5 years older and has played in exactly one more WHC than has Marner. And Marner played his one and only WHC at a younger age and with considerably less pro experience at that point in time than Stone had playing in his 1st. WHC. And statistically, Marner out performed Stone. Not by much...but he did out perform him. If it was my choice, I'd have both on the team.

 

[JackSlater]

Weird to see a sudden Marner hype train in mid August at the expense of Stone of all people.

I think Marner is going to be there. High-end natural wingers will be coveted. If Marner gets knocked for his playoff efforts, so should Stone.

Stone has had excellent playoff performances as well as a poor one last year. He was getting talked up as the best player in the playoffs a few years back. It's quite a different situation, even if I do think that people over-emphasize the playoffs when it comes to this.

What types of tournaments are you talking about? World Hockey Championships? Stone is 5 years older and has played in exactly one more WHC than has Marner. And Marner played his one and only WHC at a younger age and with considerably less pro experience at that point in time than Stone had playing in his 1st. WHC. And statistically, Marner out performed Stone. Not by much...but he did out perform him. If it was my choice, I'd have both on the team.

Marner played on Canada's third/fourth line with Point on a loaded team while Stone excelled on the shutdown line (on another loaded team) and then was the centrepiece of his pretty shallow team and the tournament MVP. Stone has outperformed Marner as a whole at the IIHF world championships, but Marner's one performance is a clear plus in his favour.

Let's see how Marner plays to start the NHL season. By talent he's probably on the team, by fit he probably isn't, and his record in big games at the senior level is a mixed bag.

 

[Gold Standard]

Weird to see a sudden Marner hype train in mid August at the expense of Stone of all people.



Stone has had excellent playoff performances as well as a poor one last year. He was getting talked up as the best player in the playoffs a few years back. It's quite a different situation, even if I do think that people over-emphasize the playoffs when it comes to this.



Marner played on Canada's third/fourth line with Point on a loaded team while Stone excelled on the shutdown line (on another loaded team) and then was the centrepiece of his pretty shallow team and the tournament MVP. Stone has outperformed Marner as a whole at the IIHF world championships, but Marner's one performance is a clear plus in his favour.

Let's see how Marner plays to start the NHL season. By talent he's probably on the team, by fit he probably isn't, and his record in big games at the senior level is a mixed bag.

Was not the point I was making, and it's getting in the weeds a little too much that's it's getting a little silly now, but Marner's 1 senior men's tournament at 20 years old with not a whole lot of pro experience out- performed Stone's 1st tournament as a 24 year with his multiple year's of pro experience was the point I was making.

Again, on a 25 man roster both players make my team.

 

[JackSlater]

Was not the point I was making, and it's getting in the weeds a little too much that's it's getting a little silly now, but Marner's 1 senior men's tournament at 20 years old with not a whole lot of pro experience out- performed Stone's 1st tournament as a 24 year with his multiple year's of pro experience was the point I was making.

Again, on a 25 man roster both players make my team.

I wouldn't say that Marner did outperform Stone. One was on the powerplay and playing soft minutes behind Canada's top two lines, the other played on the shutdown line without powerplay time. I wouldn't give Marner the edge based on an extra point or two when he was in a better position to get points and Stone brought elite all around play. I do remember being impressed with Marner's play that year, especially given his age, which I wasn't expecting after I really disliked his 2016 WJC.

I am aware that you aren't saying that Marner makes it at Stone's expense. Stone is a guy who is a must for the team, Marner is a luxury who could be a nice boost. Once the regular season starts if Marner is back among the top ten scorers I fully expect a 180 from the Toronto fans who wanted him nowhere near the team after the playoffs.

 

[UseTheBoards]

You've got Makar and Pelech both playing opposite from the side they play on in the NHL. I can't imagine they want to use the Olympics as a venue for experiments like that.

I didn't bother checking because a couple of those guys can play both sides equally well so changes can be made easily if something isn't working.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

If Devon Toews starts out the season like he played last season or especially in the playoffs you have to think they take a long look at him. Makar is the best Canadian born defensemen out there and his every day partner just so happens to be a Canadian who's in that 8-12 range of best Canadian D. They've taken Muzzin specifically because of his familairlty with Doughty and Toews (if the last two years are any indication) is significantly better than Muzzin every was. I think it's a strong possibility. His PK'ing was pristine last year too.

 

[Gold Standard]

A little late with the updated roster given the Shea Weber news, but it's summer. but post Hlinka is usually when the hockey itch returns.

The only change from my previous roster is Weber is out replaced with D. Towes who gets to partner with my favorite D-man Cale Makar. The #8 D for now is Hamilton. but it could very well be one of Ekblad or Parayko. TBD sometime by mid December.

S STAMKOS	C MCDAVID	B POINT
J HUBERDEAU	N MACKINNON	M SCHEIFELE
B MARCHAND	S CROSBY	P BERGERON
R O’REILLY	S COUTURIER	M STONE

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

M BARZAL M MARNER

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

S THEODORE	A PIETRANGELO
D TOWES	C MAKAR
T CHABOT	D DOUGHTY
D NURSE	D HAMILTON

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

C PRICE

M.A. FLEURY

D KUEMPER

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[duul]

A little late with the updated roster given the Shea Weber news, but it's summer. but post Hlinka is usually when the hockey itch returns.

The only change from my previous roster is Weber is out replaced with D. Towes who gets to partner with my favorite D-man Cale Makar. The #8 D for now is Hamilton. but it could very well be one of Ekblad or Parayko. TBD sometime by mid December.

S STAMKOS	C MCDAVID	B POINT
J HUBERDEAU	N MACKINNON	M SCHEIFELE
B MARCHAND	S CROSBY	P BERGERON
R O’REILLY	S COUTURIER	M STONE

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

M BARZAL M MARNER

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

S THEODORE	A PIETRANGELO
D TOWES	C MAKAR
T CHABOT	D DOUGHTY
D NURSE	D HAMILTON

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

C PRICE

M.A. FLEURY

D KUEMPER

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

I think you want all of McDavid, Mackinnon, Crosby, and Marchand all playing 22-25 minutes a night. McDavid for sure at the 24+ minute a night mark.

One of them has to go to the wing unless you are comfortable with Crosby playing 15-16 minutes a game at most. Probably less.

 

[JackSlater]

I think you want all of McDavid, Mackinnon, Crosby, and Marchand all playing 22-25 minutes a night. McDavid for sure at the 24+ minute a night mark.

One of them has to go to the wing unless you are comfortable with Crosby playing 15-16 minutes a game at most. Probably less.

If Canada is playing those forwards anywhere near those minutes then something has gone very wrong. Canada has been very successful at the best on best level rolling the lines and keeping elite players fresh while the other teams break down over the course of the game. Considering near peak level Crosby played 15:39 in the 2014 gold medal game, I think people should be comfortable with him only playing 15-16 minutes in 2022.

 

[duul]

If Canada is playing those forwards anywhere near those minutes then something has gone very wrong. Canada has been very successful at the best on best level rolling the lines and keeping elite players fresh while the other teams break down over the course of the game. Considering near peak level Crosby played 15:39 in the 2014 gold medal game, I think people should be comfortable with him only playing 15-16 minutes in 2022.

I believe the meta of professional hockey has changed drastically in that time frame, no? With conditioning, fitness, diet ever progressing. Ice time for the very best forwards on all NHL teams has gone WAY UP since 2014. I think we can agree on that.

I fear being left behind if we are not playing OUR best players as much as we can play them efficiently. I don't think you can justify playing anyone at the same minutes as McDavid and Mack. You need to be giving them as many as they can handle. They are way better players than the bottom half of this Canadian roster. At least if the game is close you need to be doing it. These guys are at an athletic level where they can, and they should.

 

[JackSlater]

I believe the meta of professional hockey has changed drastically in that time frame, no? With conditioning, fitness, diet ever progressing. Ice time for the very best forwards on all NHL teams has gone WAY UP since 2014. I think we can agree on that.

I fear being left behind if we are not playing OUR best players as much as we can play them efficiently. I don't think you can justify playing anyone at the same minutes as McDavid and Mack. You need to be giving them as many as they can handle. They are way better players than the bottom half of this Canadian roster. At least if the game is close you need to be doing it. These guys are at an athletic level where they can, and they should.

Nah, we aren't talking about the Oilers here and hockey hasn't seen a drastic shift in usage since the old days of 2014. Then again McDavid doesn't even play the minutes you're suggesting for Edmonton, better yet for Canada when someone like Barzal is going to be the fourth line centre, so I shouldn't compare it to Edmonton. The most McDavid has ever averaged in terms of ice time is 22:50, his career average is 21:33, and you're somehow suggesting that for an immeasurably deeper team than Edmonton he should play 24+ minutes a game.

McDavid is a great player. Best that Canada has. But the other forwards will be great as well and he isn't so superior to them that he's more effective when run into the ground than the are fresh.

 

[duul]

Nah, we aren't talking about the Oilers here and hockey hasn't seen a drastic shift in usage since the old days of 2014. Then again McDavid doesn't even play the minutes you're suggesting for Edmonton, better yet for Canada when someone like Barzal is going to be the fourth line centre, so I shouldn't compare it to Edmonton. The most McDavid has ever averaged in terms of ice time is 22:50, his career average is 21:33, and you're somehow suggesting that for an immeasurably deeper team than Edmonton he should play 24+ minutes a game.

McDavid is a great player. Best that Canada has. But the other forwards will be great as well and he isn't so superior to them that he's more effective when run into the ground than the are fresh.

McDavid averaged over 30 minutes per game in the playoffs this season. There is no reason to suggest he tires out and gets exhausted or plays worse at the 24+ minute mark.

 

[JackSlater]

McDavid averaged over 30 minutes per game in the playoffs this season. There is no reason to suggest he tires out and gets exhausted or plays worse at the 24+ minute mark.

I'll be honest, I'm hoping that Canada doesn't try to emulate the playoff strategy of the 2021 Oilers and that McDavid plays better in the Olympics than he did in the 2021 playoffs. Call me crazy but I'm also hoping that McDavid doesn't play far more minutes for Canada than he does for the Oilers (of all teams) and I'm even ok with Crosby playing roughly as many minutes as he did in Canada's successful 2014 tournament.

 

[Get North]

I don't get why people have Nathan MacKinnon playing RW on McDavid's line. Why are you going to minimize arguably Canada's second best player like that? His effectiveness is playing up and down the middle of the ice with speed, you're neutralizing that because you're asking him to play on the wall in order to get the puck to McDavid with speed. I'd go:

Huberdeau - McDavid - Stone
Marchand - MacKinnon - Point
O'Reilly - Crosby - Bergeron
Couterier - Barzal - Scheifele
Marner/Stamkos

Theodore - Pietrangelo
Pelech - Makar
Chabot - Doughty
Toews/Pulock

Price
Fleury
Kuemper

I like this line-up starting with defence.

Theodore is simply the best LD, and Chabot is #2. They are offensively oriented so Pelech is a good fit. He's competing with Nurse for the Bouwmeester/Vlasic role. The right side is similar, Makar/Pietrangelo are easily the best. Let's compliment them with physical players like Doughty/Pulock. I don't think Hamilton is necessary, maybe Parayko or Letang.

The trio of McDavid, MacKinnon and Point is elite but one of them should be on the wing. We know Point can play 1C on a SC team like O'Reilly, Crosby and Bergy. I think Marchand is somebody we can use as 1LW instead of Huberdeau and it'll keep McDavid pesky being next to the rat.

 

[GlassesJacketShirt]

LW	C	RW	Extras
Brayden Point	Connor McDavid	Mark Scheifele	Steven Stamkos
Brad Marchand	Sidney Crosby	Patrice Bergeron	Mitch Marner
Jonathan Huberdeau	Nathan MacKinnon	Matt Barzal
Ryan O'Reilly	John Tavares	Mark Stone

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Stamkos is the outlier in terms of who I wouldn't love to have, but I think he fills a need on the powerplay and the occasional shift here and there. Scheifele is on thin ice.

LD	RD	Extras
Shea Theodore	Alex Pietrangelo	Thomas Chabot
Adam Pelech	Cale Makar
Morgan Rielly	Aaron Ekblad
Darnell Nurse	Drew Doughty

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

I think Chabot could easily swipe a starting spot and is the most talented LD for Canada, just need some refinement. I do want him on the team purely due to his importance in future Olympics.

Goaltenders

Carey Price

Marc-Andre Fleury

Jordan Binnington

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[Stewie Griffin]

LW	C	RW	Extras
Brayden Point	Connor McDavid	Mark Scheifele	Steven Stamkos
Brad Marchand	Sidney Crosby	Patrice Bergeron	Mitch Marner
Jonathan Huberdeau	Nathan MacKinnon	Matt Barzal
Ryan O'Reilly	John Tavares	Mark Stone

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Stamkos is the outlier in terms of who I wouldn't love to have, but I think he fills a need on the powerplay and the occasional shift here and there. Scheifele is on thin ice.

LD	RD	Extras
Shea Theodore	Alex Pietrangelo	Thomas Chabot
Adam Pelech	Cale Makar
Morgan Rielly	Aaron Ekblad
Darnell Nurse	Drew Doughty

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

I think Chabot could easily swipe a starting spot and is the most talented LD for Canada, just need some refinement. I do want him on the team purely due to his importance in future Olympics.

Goaltenders

Carey Price

Marc-Andre Fleury

Jordan Binnington

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

I know that literally that entire team is stacked but that third line would be so much fun to watch. Those 3 are all magicians with the puck.

 

[snipes]

So pumped that we have NHL participation. Today is a good day for hockey news.

 

[Hattrick Kane]

Ekbkad before Rielly

 

[Kaiden Ghoul]

LD Reilly Nurse Theodore Chychrun
RD Pietrangelo Doughty Makar Ekblad

FWD
Marchand Crosby Bergeron Mcdavid Mackinnon Huberdeau Point Horvat Stone Barzal Scheifele Tavares
Extra : Suzuki Lafreniere

Goalie Price Hart Fleury

I went with Suzuki Lafreniere and Hart cause i think they will be key piece in the future

Huberdeau Mcdavid Barzal
Tavares Crosby Mackinnon
Marchand Bergeron Point
Scheifele Horvat Stone

Theodore Pietrangelo
Nurse Makar
Reilly Doughty

Price
Fleury

Mcdavid and Barzal on the same line

 

[thai jet]

Weird to see a sudden Marner hype train in mid August at the expense of Stone of all people.



Stone has had excellent playoff performances as well as a poor one last year. He was getting talked up as the best player in the playoffs a few years back. It's quite a different situation, even if I do think that people over-emphasize the playoffs when it comes to this.



Marner played on Canada's third/fourth line with Point on a loaded team while Stone excelled on the shutdown line (on another loaded team) and then was the centrepiece of his pretty shallow team and the tournament MVP. Stone has outperformed Marner as a whole at the IIHF world championships, but Marner's one performance is a clear plus in his favour.

Let's see how Marner plays to start the NHL season. By talent he's probably on the team, by fit he probably isn't, and his record in big games at the senior level is a mixed bag.

Stone>>>>>Marner