News Article: TD Garden cuts ties with firm accused of beatings

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On Wednesday night, after the Globe presented a host of accusations from Meehan and seven other former Allied security guards, TD Garden president Amy Latimer announced that the Garden will cut ties with the security outfit.

Allied, now known as Allied Universal after a recent merger, did not respond to requests for comment.

TD Garden has hired former Boston police commissioner Edward Davis to help see it through a 90-day transition period following the separation with Allied, in which TD Garden will seek a new security provider. Allied will continue to provide security during that time, although officials have already banned its guards from removing people from North Station.
 

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They didn't care while this was going on, for months if not years.
They didn't even care after they got caught.
They only cared after the Globe exposed them.
 

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They didn't care while this was going on, for months if not years.
They didn't even care after they got caught.
They only cared after the Globe exposed them.

I'm not sure they "cared" before, but I'm sure after the recent allegations, there was concern. They should have been more vigilant earlier, but I give them credit for acting swiftly.

Unfortunately, these types of things happen everywhere. I'm not sure I understand the vibe that because Jacobs was involved it was somehow worse and more sinister.
 

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I'm not sure they "cared" before, but I'm sure after the recent allegations, there was concern. They should have been more vigilant earlier, but I give them credit for acting swiftly.

Unfortunately, these types of things happen everywhere. I'm not sure I understand the vibe that because Jacobs was involved it was somehow worse and more sinister.

I don't see anyone bringing up JJ?

Someone in that building is responsible for overseeing security or issues in and around the building. I don't believe they had no idea and only found out once the globe ran that story.

This just isn't a well run organization.
 

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I don't see anyone bringing up JJ?

Someone in that building is responsible for overseeing security or issues in and around the building. I don't believe they had no idea and only found out once the globe ran that story.

This just isn't a well run organization.


JJ owns the company, correct?

And I honestly don't know enough about the inner workings of his company to say that they are or aren't "we'll run". Sounds like you are all over it though.
 

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JJ owns the company, correct?

And I honestly don't know enough about the inner workings of his company to say that they are or aren't "we'll run". Sounds like you are all over it though.

He does, but I don't think he's involved in day to day operations from Buffalo. He hires people to handle those things.


Other than work stoppages and overpriced everything, what have you observed this organization does well?

Fan relations? on ice product? perks for season ticket holders? etc....
 

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He does, but I don't think he's involved in day to day operations from Buffalo. He hires people to handle those things.


Other than work stoppages and overpriced everything, what have you observed this organization does well?

Fan relations? on ice product? perks for season ticket holders? etc....

I guess you didn't understand the part where I said I didn't know enough about how the operation works? To me, business ops and hockey ops are two separate things and I don't equate one with the other.

Obviously I don't think they should be abusing homeless people, but besides that I don't live in Boston and am not a STH, so at this point, the only thing that directly concerns me is the on ice product and I'm happy with the direction Sweeney has them going in.
 

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I guess you didn't understand the part where I said I didn't know enough about how the operation works? To me, business ops and hockey ops are two separate things and I don't equate one with the other.

Obviously I don't think they should be abusing homeless people, but besides that I don't live in Boston and am not a STH, so at this point, the only thing that directly concerns me is the on ice product and I'm happy with the direction Sweeney has them going in.

I understand the part where nobody mentioned Jacobs, but you somehow knew people were taking shots at him.

It's ok to be critical of the bruins in this case, homeless people were being abused and they did nothing about it until it was bad press.
 

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Now that they're gone,it's time to say goodbye to Amy,who only acted after they were publicly caught..
 

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I understand the part where nobody mentioned Jacobs, but you somehow knew people were taking shots at him.

It's ok to be critical of the bruins in this case, homeless people were being abused and they did nothing about it until it was bad press.

So, nobody mentioned Jacobs, and he's not to blame because he's not aware of the day to day operations, but now it's the "Bruins" who are responsible? Not Delaware North, not Allied Security?

I'm having a hard time keeping this straight.

You can go one of two ways with this IMO. You either hold JJ responsible because he's the king, or you hold whomever the Liason was between the security company and Delaware North. That person needs to go, unless they did pass the info up the ladder and it was ignored.
 

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So, nobody mentioned Jacobs, and he's not to blame because he's not aware of the day to day operations, but now it's the "Bruins" who are responsible? Not Delaware North, not Allied Security?

I'm having a hard time keeping this straight.

You can go one of two ways with this IMO. You either hold JJ responsible because he's the king, or you hold whomever the Liason was between the security company and Delaware North. That person needs to go, unless they did pass the info up the ladder and it was ignored.

Delaware North owns the Bruins, so they are one and the same.

I'm not sure what your point is in all this, you seem to agree - but want to play semantic games.
 

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Delaware North owns the Bruins, so they are one and the same.

I'm not sure what your point is in all this, you seem to agree - but want to play semantic games.


I'm in a bad mood, one of those days.

I do think that JJ (head of Delaware North) could donate $10m to a cause and would get lambasted by some because he must only be doing it for tax purposes.

Also, splitting hairs, but I have never considered Delaware North and the Bruins one in the same. The B's are the sports arm, DN the biz side.

Besides, the Delaware North Bruins just doesn't roll off the tongue.
 

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I'm in a bad mood, one of those days.

I do think that JJ (head of Delaware North) could donate $10m to a cause and would get lambasted by some because he must only be doing it for tax purposes.

Also, splitting hairs, but I have never considered Delaware North and the Bruins one in the same. The B's are the sports arm, DN the biz side.

Besides, the Delaware North Bruins just doesn't roll off the tongue.

I hear yeah.

Look, I'm a JJ hater and I don't apologize for it, but when he did donate money last year - I didn't say anything negative about that.:laugh:

Anyway, the right thing did happen, I just think it should have happened a lot sooner.
 

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I hear yeah.

Look, I'm a JJ hater and I don't apologize for it, but when he did donate money last year - I didn't say anything negative about that.:laugh:

Anyway, the right thing did happen, I just think it should have happened a lot sooner.

Without a doubt. I'm just curious how far up the food chain the news made it? Not sure we will ever know that?
 

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Delaware North owns the Bruins, so they are one and the same.

I'm not sure what your point is in all this, you seem to agree - but want to play semantic games.

I think everyone is focused on the wrong Jacobs here as Charlie is CEO of both the Bruins and Delaware North Boston which are separate entities both owned by the family. Charlie had to be aware of what was going on or he is more clueless than I thought.

This situation may have saved Claude's job as all resources went to damage control mode.

The homeless situation around North Station has been terrible for decades and about 15 years ago McDonalds closed their outlet across from NS because they couldn't deal with it anymore.

South Station and Back Bay are just as bad.

 
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He does, but I don't think he's involved in day to day operations from Buffalo. He hires people to handle those things.


Other than work stoppages and overpriced everything, what have you observed this organization does well?

Fan relations? on ice product? perks for season ticket holders? etc....

They are not overpriced if people buy them, just saying, its not like he is gouging gasoline or bread prices, you can opt to not buy.
This is why I haven't gone to a Bruins game at the Garden since 2007-8.
 

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That's actually not true. Just because some people buy something doesn't mean it's not overpriced.

If its Food or heating oil then yes, its a necessity so people can charge whatever and people will still buy it. If the Bruins stop selling tickets, and there are 3,000 unsold seats at the Garden every night then maybe the tickets are over priced, but as of now they sell 17,585 tickets a game so they are priced correctly.
If you can sell at a certain price there is no real reason to lower prices.
 

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If its Food or heating oil then yes, its a necessity so people can charge whatever and people will still buy it. If the Bruins stop selling tickets, and there are 3,000 unsold seats at the Garden every night then maybe the tickets are over priced, but as of now they sell 17,585 tickets a game so they are priced correctly.
If you can sell at a certain price there is no real reason to lower prices.

Not to belabor the point, but the statement the other poster made earlier was "overpriced everything". That would include such things as merch and concessions (NOT a necessity as claimed above). Just because some people buy these things does not mean they are not also overpriced. Perhaps he could double sales if he lowered prices. That, by definition, would indicate that they are currently overpriced. Judging by attendance at the proshop this season, I'd say he's clearly there.

Tix are a different animal. There are only so many tix to go around and yes, as long as the sellouts continue, I would agree that there is no way to argue that tix are overpriced.
 

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