Confirmed with Link: Taylor Hall receives 5k fine for sucker punch on Lyubushkin

[TMLeafer]

The media is so spineless.

 

[Bluelines]

Also intentionally targeting the head

Apparently you can punch a person in the head but you can't cross check or elbow someone in the head. For just about every offence there is a provision for a match PIM , except for punching a guy in the head...

Rule 51 - Roughing 51.1 Roughing – Roughing is a punching or slamming motion with or without the glove on the hand, normally directed at the head or face of an opponent, or if a player intentionally removes an opponent’s helmet during play pursuant to Rule 9.6. Roughing is a minor altercation that is not worthy of a major penalty to either participant. (An altercation is a situation involving two players with at least one to be penalized).

51.2 Minor Penalty - A minor penalty shall be imposed on a player who strikes an opponent with his hand or fist, or if a player intentionally removes an opponent’s helmet during play pursuant to Rule 9.

51.3 Match Penalty - If, in the judgment of the Referee, a goalkeeper uses his blocking glove to punch an opponent in an attempt to or to deliberately injure an opponent, a match penalty may be assessed.

51.4 Fines and Suspensions - There are no specified fines or suspensions for roughing, however, supplementary discipline can be applied by the Commissioner at his discretion (refer to Rule 28), provided, however, supplementary discipline cannot be applied to a player for intentionally removing an opponent’s helmet during play pursuant to Rule 9.6.

 

[TGB]

What the...? Not only does he get sucker punched but that other player comes on over to stuff his face in the ice after the fact.

The hell is wrong with this league? If a Toronto player did that he'd be suspended for a week!

 

[mikeyz]

So a blind sided haymaker to the side of the head of an unsuspecting player only costs 5 grand? That's a pretty good deal.

Unless you're a Leaf. Guaranteed if it was the other way around, Boosh would have gotten at least 10 games.

 

[Bluelines]

Bergeron, not Pasta. Better chance of it lasting the playoffs

I left Bergeron out, I like the guy TBH. Hell of a Hockey player. IMO the most underrated player in NHL history after Matts Sundin.​

 

[Legion34]

Ray thinks this is a correct call:

Ray apparently also thinks that your neck is your head.

1.) both “retaliatory” so that’s even
2.) Austin used stick. So ok that’s worse

But.

Auston was engaged with dahlin. Hall suckered a guy. And dahlin was fine. Lub left the game.


Ray is wrong

Retaliatory. Sucker. Injury Is worse than

Retaliatory. Stick no injury.

 

[analyser]

I am not trying to cause a big war here, just giving an opinion

Matthew's uses his stick to connect with a player's jaw which is a lot more dangerous than a punch in the face with a glove. I agree, the officiating is a joke but it never improves. Hall had just got slammed into the boards so it was an reactionary response at the spur of the moment.

You can try to take out Bergeron, Pastrnak, Marchand and McAvoy but retaliation will be on Matthew's, Marner, Nylander and Reilly.

Think about it will this really do either team any good heading into the playoffs?

The league is what it is, a big joke in handling these situations.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Some of these guys need to get punch with their back turned to really see if it's worse than someone facing you and throwing one.

 

[BertCorbeau]

I am not trying to cause a big war here, just giving an opinion

Matthew's uses his stick to connect with a player's jaw which is a lot more dangerous than a punch in the face with a glove. I agree, the officiating is a joke but it never improves. Hall had just got slammed into the boards so it was an reactionary response at the spur of the moment.

You can try to take out Bergeron, Pastrnak, Marchand and McAvoy but retaliation will be on Matthew's, Marner, Nylander and Reilly.

Think about it will this really do either team any good heading into the playoffs?

The league is what it is, a big joke in handling these situations.

I don't even think comparing it to Matthews' suspension is really necessary with the Larkin incident right there.

Very similar questionable hit. Same retaliation motive. Sucker punch on an unsuspecting player. Different being once was knocked out of the game and one did not.

Guess which got the suspension :

 

[Caesium]

Apparently you can punch a person in the head but you can't cross check or elbow someone in the head. For just about every offence there is a provision for a match PIM , except for punching a guy in the head...

Rule 51 - Roughing 51.1 Roughing – Roughing is a punching or slamming motion with or without the glove on the hand, normally directed at the head or face of an opponent, or if a player intentionally removes an opponent’s helmet during play pursuant to Rule 9.6. Roughing is a minor altercation that is not worthy of a major penalty to either participant. (An altercation is a situation involving two players with at least one to be penalized).

51.2 Minor Penalty - A minor penalty shall be imposed on a player who strikes an opponent with his hand or fist, or if a player intentionally removes an opponent’s helmet during play pursuant to Rule 9.

51.3 Match Penalty - If, in the judgment of the Referee, a goalkeeper uses his blocking glove to punch an opponent in an attempt to or to deliberately injure an opponent, a match penalty may be assessed.

51.4 Fines and Suspensions - There are no specified fines or suspensions for roughing, however, supplementary discipline can be applied by the Commissioner at his discretion (refer to Rule 28), provided, however, supplementary discipline cannot be applied to a player for intentionally removing an opponent’s helmet during play pursuant to Rule 9.6.

46.15 Match Penalty - Any player wearing tape or any other material on his hands (below the wrist) who cuts or injures an opponent during an altercation will receive a match penalty in addition to any other penalties imposed including for fighting under this rule.

A match penalty shall be assessed to a player who punches an unsuspecting opponent and causes an injury.

 

[saltming]

Apparently you can punch a person in the head but you can't cross check or elbow someone in the head. For just about every offence there is a provision for a match PIM , except for punching a guy in the head...

Rule 51 - Roughing 51.1 Roughing – Roughing is a punching or slamming motion with or without the glove on the hand, normally directed at the head or face of an opponent, or if a player intentionally removes an opponent’s helmet during play pursuant to Rule 9.6. Roughing is a minor altercation that is not worthy of a major penalty to either participant. (An altercation is a situation involving two players with at least one to be penalized).

51.2 Minor Penalty - A minor penalty shall be imposed on a player who strikes an opponent with his hand or fist, or if a player intentionally removes an opponent’s helmet during play pursuant to Rule 9.

51.3 Match Penalty - If, in the judgment of the Referee, a goalkeeper uses his blocking glove to punch an opponent in an attempt to or to deliberately injure an opponent, a match penalty may be assessed.

51.4 Fines and Suspensions - There are no specified fines or suspensions for roughing, however, supplementary discipline can be applied by the Commissioner at his discretion (refer to Rule 28), provided, however, supplementary discipline cannot be applied to a player for intentionally removing an opponent’s helmet during play pursuant to Rule 9.6.

That is messed up.
NHL "we need to cut down on concussions so let's make targeted hits to the head illegal but not if it's with the hand that won't cause a concussion"
That's messed up. I guess someone should inform all those boxers with concussion issues it's from something else lol

Thanks for the info.

 

[IPS]

Ray thinks this is a correct call:

Gaslighting if I've ever seen it.

Management cannot f***ing stay quiet anymore, they have to say something.

 

[horner]

I think a way to stop alot of the bullshit in the game today. When a player receives a suspension .
Those games are relateted to the team that said player got the infraction against up tp 4 games .
So say a if Hall got 2 games he would miss the next 2 games played against the leafs including playoffs.

Hall should have got at least a game .
What did Domi get when he suckered punched a guy yrs ago .
Tie Domi got 8 GAMES .

 

[Cynical]

And people wonder why Kadri did what he did. This is exactly the same shit that lead to Kadri being suspended. The reffing caused the entire situation. If the Leafs were a tougher team I would expect them to send someone out to sucker punch Hall next game.

 

[Rogue Leader]

I usually never say anything about the refs or DPS, but this is utter ****.
Nobody ever gets suspended against the Leafs.

 

[horner]

I usually never say anything about the refs or DPS, but this is utter ****.
Nobody ever gets suspended against the Leafs.

This is why I want to avoid Boston in the play offs .

 

[ITM]

Ferraro's "Take": Goodnight.

Dahlin saw Matthews rising and moved.
Lyubushkin didn't see Hall rise or punch him.

Dahlin absorbed Matthews' retaliatory cross-check after throwing what looked a cross-check before Matthews'.
Lyubushkin threw a clean hit that Hall turned away from.

Anyone who has ever experienced both can attest to the force that varies with each action. How the league led by an ex-enforcer can't distinguish the actual effect from perceived potential effect is incredible. Meaning, Parros KNOWS what kind of pressure it takes to knock someone out having been on the receiving end. It takes FAR LESS than people other than ex-NHL enforcers realize.

So...Lyubushkin was: A) A victim of retaliation; B) Hit from behind; C) Had his head turn in a way that's consistent with being knocked out; D) Was helped off the ice with his head down the entire time and E) Will miss games.

There's an appeal process, yes?

 

[ACC1224]

Ferraro's "Take": Goodnight.

Dahlin saw Matthews rising and moved.
Lyubushkin didn't see Hall rise or punch him.

Dahlin absorbed Matthews' retaliatory cross-check after throwing what looked a cross-check before Matthews'.
Lyubushkin threw a clean hit that Hall turned away from.

Anyone who has ever experienced both can attest to the force that varies with each action. How the league led by an ex-enforcer can't distinguish the actual effect from perceived potential effect is incredible. Meaning, Parros KNOWS what kind of pressure it takes to knock someone out having been on the receiving end. It takes FAR LESS than people other than ex-NHL enforcers realize.

So...Lyubushkin was: A) A victim of retaliation; B) Hit from behind; C) Had his head turn in a way that's consistent with being knocked out; D) Was helped off the ice with his head down the entire time and E) Will miss games.

There's an appeal process, yes?

Yes, Hall could appeal but he'll likely just pay the fine and be done with it.
5k is pocket change.

 

[34]

Wow! What a joke.

 

[LeafGrief]

It's quite surprising that the Reddit thread is actually on the Leafs side for this, but the mainboards thread is classic. Was fun stirring the pot in there for a little while, but I've had my fun.

Hope Lyubushkin is okay. DoPS is a f***ing joke, but we already knew that. Add this one to the pile, we need our guy healthy.

 

[Atomos2]

So criticizing the officiating and sucker punching someone in the head leading to a concussion results in the same punishment?

And these are the people responsible for player safety? f***ing children could do a better job than this

 

[leafsfan5]

Some of these guys need to get punch with their back turned to really see if it's worse than someone facing you and throwing one.

The main boards are honestly insane with how they're discussing this. Acting like the punch was a "slap" and Boosh went down easy

Please get sucker punched when you don't expect it and let me see how your steel chins hold up.

 

[Leafidelity]

I guess we'll just have to get someone to knock Hall in the head from behind next game.

 

[authentic]

The precedent this sets is brutal. If you are a player just sucker someone in the back of the head and take the 5k fine.... No big deal really

Just make sure your crosscheck doesn't slide up the shoulder of a player who can see it coming.

 

[Atomos2]

The main boards are honestly insane with how they're discussing this. Acting like the punch was a "slap" and Boosh went down easy

Please get sucker punched when you don't expect it and let me see how your steel chins hold up.

I’m honestly sick and tired of talking to the idiots on the mainboard. They become bitchy whenever it’s a leaf centred conversation. Just sad.