Speculation: Taylor Hall for Seth Jones

[BenG]

A few months prior to all of the trades, it was rumoured that EDM was offering Ryan Nugent-Hopkins for Seth Jones. This was shot down quickly though, since there was not enough value on EDM's side.

Given the recent trades, do you think Taylor Hall was ever offered for Jones straight up? And if so, would that have been enough?

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[Batrous]

I'd probably say no given seth jones looks like he will be at the very least a top line d man and Hall seems like a top line winger. Plus moving Jones for the Blue Jackets would be another step back for their franchise and I don't see them having as much of a need for a top line winger then a top line centre. D man and Centres that can play on your top line are very hard to get. Wingers are easier to do without or replace.

 

[Sojourn]

Well, I think you need to consider that RNH is a center. The player Seth Jones was traded for, Ryan Johansen, is a center.

Hall is an extremely talented winger, but he's a winger. If Nashville was focusing on adding a center, it's entirely plausible that Hall was never discussed, or he was brought up and immediately rejected. That wouldn't necessarily be a value issue, but it's still an issue.

 

[SB84]

No. Nashville explicitly stated they were looking for a number 1 C. Hall doesn't play C.

 

[WannabeFinn]

No, because Nashville needed a center. End of discussion.

 

[Soundgarden]

Nashville was never going to trade Jones for someone who wasn't a number one center or had the potential to be one very soon. Hall was never on the radar at all.

 

[HBK27]

Nashville was only going to use Jones to land a 1C.

No clue if Hall would've been offered at the time or if missing out on Jones and struggling to make a deal for any other potential top pairing RHD would've led Edmonton to finally make Hall available for Larsson.

 

[ManofSteel55]

A few months prior to all of the trades, it was rumoured that EDM was offering Ryan Nugent-Hopkins for Seth Jones. This was shot down quickly though, since there was not enough value on EDM's side.

Given the recent trades, do you think Taylor Hall was ever offered for Jones straight up? And if so, would that have been enough?

Lebrun claimed that the Nuge-Jones offer was never made, so that's one thing.

I think it was pretty obvious that Nashville was looking for a centre though, so I don't know if the Hall discussion was had or not, but they likely still would have taken Johanssen.

 

[OmNomNom]

to be fair, NJD also needed a 1C.

 

[THall4]

A few months prior to all of the trades, it was rumoured that EDM was offering Ryan Nugent-Hopkins for Seth Jones. This was shot down quickly though, since there was not enough value on EDM's side.

Given the recent trades, do you think Taylor Hall was ever offered for Jones straight up? And if so, would that have been enough?

No

And Nashville was looking for a C

 

[HBK27]

to be fair, NJD also needed a 1C.

Nowhere to the degree that Nashville did.

The Preds have had a lot of playoff appearances with little success and are very much in a win-now mode. A top center has been a big hole on this team for a long time. They needed one immediately.

The Devils are patiently building a good team. They can get by with Henrique and Zajac as their top 2 C's for now knowing that Zacha, McLeod and/or Quenneville may be able to step into that role as the team (hopefully) is built into a Cup contender.

 

[jacks*]

Lebrun claimed that the Nuge-Jones offer was never made, so that's one thing.

I think it was pretty obvious that Nashville was looking for a centre though, so I don't know if the Hall discussion was had or not, but they likely still would have taken Johanssen.

Whether Nuge was offered for Jones one thing we can all be quite sure of,Nuge would never have gotten Jones and since Nashville was looking for a center i can't see them accepting Hall for him either.

 

[Jumptheshark]

A few months prior to all of the trades, it was rumoured that EDM was offering Ryan Nugent-Hopkins for Seth Jones. This was shot down quickly though, since there was not enough value on EDM's side.

Given the recent trades, do you think Taylor Hall was ever offered for Jones straight up? And if so, would that have been enough?

center was the key

a 6-3 center is what was wanted

 

[spaghtti]

Whether Nuge was offered for Jones one thing we can all be quite sure of,Nuge would never have gotten Jones and since Nashville was looking for a center i can't see them accepting Hall for him either.

What? This makes no sense what so ever.

 

[jacks*]

What? This makes no sense what so ever.

Nuge doesn't come close to getting Jones.Is that clear enough?

 

[SI90]

IMO EDM didn't consider moving Hall until the offseason.

 

[spaghtti]

Nuge doesn't come close to getting Jones.Is that clear enough?

Right and your proof is?... that the Oilers never offered him for Jones?

 

[Trapper]

Nashville was in a rare position that they could trade trade Jones for a no. 1 C and still have one of the best top 4 D core in the league. Then to trade Weber for the younger Subban.

They got younger and have a 1 C and 1 D.

 

[jacks*]

Right and your proof is?... that the Oilers never offered him for Jones?

I never said they never offered Nuge for Jones.
I'm saying that Jones value >>Nuge.

 

[devilsblood]

to be fair, NJD also needed a 1C.

But I assume Seth had more value league wide then Larsson did.

Jones for Hall is fairly lateral imo, where as Lars for Hall is a talent win for NJ.

 

[Leafs87]

to be fair, NJD also needed a 1C.

Yeah but Jones had the potential to land a 1C. NJ should be thrilled Larsson returned someone of Halls caliber

 

[CBJWerenski8]

No. I firmly believe Hall would still be an Oiler if Columbus picked Puljujarvi.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

No. I firmly believe Hall would still be an Oiler if Columbus picked Puljujarvi.

and Lucic hadn't verbally agreed to sign...

 

[ThirdManIn]

There were only three players the Oilers had who Poile would've wanted for Jones, and Hall was not one of them. One of them would've caused immense laughter, and probably a sanity check. Another wasn't proven enough, and the third, if ever offered, was beaten by Columbus.

 

[LeapOnOver]

to be fair, NJD also needed a 1C.

New Jersey was looking for a 1LW, 1RW, and 1C. It's not like they only had one need.