The playoff push / tanking and scoreboard watching thread

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Mike Liut

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The Blues are about to jump the Pens for #7. I love scoreboard watching on tank years. Let’s go!!!
 
It sucks winning meaningless games late in the year. Hopefully this year will be different.

Army needs to fully embrace the youth movement. That would help. My biggest fear is after this year Army still looks to hold on to pieces to try and compete next year. Anyone over 30 with a trade clause needs to be approached and told the new direction and asked to waive. I would like to keep Parayko though.
 
Army needs to fully embrace the youth movement. That would help. My biggest fear is after this year Army still looks to hold on to pieces to try and compete next year. Anyone over 30 with a trade clause needs to be approached and told the new direction and asked to waive. I would like to keep Parayko though.

I agree, but I just don’t see anybody wanting Krug, Faulk, Leddy, Schenn with those contracts, and I don’t want to attach draft picks to move them.
 
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Krug off the injury is probably unmovable. With the projected cap raises those contracts start to look a lot more palatable. Schenn will net positive value IMO. Leddy if proven healthy will fetch something decent. Faulk is a wildcard. He has been bad this year but maybe we sell him on the change of scenery move? He has a track record of being a reliable piece a team might want for a playoff run.
 
Krug off the injury is probably unmovable. With the projected cap raises those contracts start to look a lot more palatable. Schenn will net positive value IMO. Leddy if proven healthy will fetch something decent. Faulk is a wildcard. He has been bad this year but maybe we sell him on the change of scenery move? He has a track record of being a reliable piece a team might want for a playoff run.

I honestly would give any of those players away from free like Saad. I do like Schenn a lot though. I’d maybe keep him for his leadership. But the others can be had for free.
 
I honestly would give any of those players away from free like Saad. I do like Schenn a lot though. I’d maybe keep him for his leadership. But the others can be had for free.

I mean the only one I could see returning a 1st or similar quality prospect is Schenn. Especially if he continues to play well between Holloway and Kyrou, artificially inflating his numbers. Former Stanley Cup winner, plays center, two-way. Some team will pay up.
 
I mean the only one I could see returning a 1st or similar quality prospect is Schenn. Especially if he continues to play well between Holloway and Kyrou, artificially inflating his numbers. Former Stanley Cup winner, plays center, two-way. Some team will pay up.

I’d take a 1st for him without hesitation
 
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Army needs to fully embrace the youth movement. That would help. My biggest fear is after this year Army still looks to hold on to pieces to try and compete next year. Anyone over 30 with a trade clause needs to be approached and told the new direction and asked to waive. I would like to keep Parayko though.
Sort of waited too late on that one. Saad should have already been moved, same for Buch, Schenn and Faulk. But we had no interest in a rebuild so here we are: mediocrity.
 
Sort of waited too late on that one. Saad should have already been moved, same for Buch, Schenn and Faulk. But we had no interest in a rebuild so here we are: mediocrity.

I agree that was my standpoint last year but we chose to try and "go for it." That failed so now move on and try to salvage. Luckily we have a ton of prospect to backfill.
 
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I agree that was my standpoint last year but we chose to try and "go for it." That failed so now move on and try to salvage. Luckily we have a ton of prospect to backfill.
The problem with going for it is we always had an aging group and a gap between them still being good and the young guys being ready. It made no sense to me to try to beidge the gap and try and squeak into the playoffs when we should have been loading up on assets. Now we are really only left with our firsts for a bit and we still sort of need those.
 
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Binner and Hofer are sucking bad enough to potentially ride out the remaining 30 games inside the top 8 picks. That would be a nice reward for us as fans sitting through this season and could provide a foundational piece if the Blues choose wisely.
 
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With the Pens losing, we are sitting at #7. I’m happy with anything inside #7
 
There’s an outside chance of getting below Buffalo and landing at #4, pre-draft. Blues schedule appears to be more daunting the rest of the way than Buffalo’s.

Schafer and Hagens probably come off the board 1-2, but a consolation prize of Misa, Desnoyers or Frondell would be very, very nice inside the top-5 even if some team pushes us down with a lottery win.
 
I mean the only one I could see returning a 1st or similar quality prospect is Schenn. Especially if he continues to play well between Holloway and Kyrou, artificially inflating his numbers. Former Stanley Cup winner, plays center, two-way. Some team will pay up.

How are Schenn's numbers "artificially inflated?" Pretty absurd to give him no credit at all for his own statistics. Regardless, Schenn won't be traded.
 
How are Schenn's numbers "artificially inflated?" Pretty absurd to give him no credit at all for his own statistics. Regardless, Schenn won't be traded.
The cliff with Schenn is approaching… we saw that with the first 30 games of this year. Better to move a guy a season too soon than try to do so a season too late. If they can get out of that contract without retention or without adding a sweetener, they’d be wise to do so regardless of how he’s playing today.

If they looked to move him now, not only might they get an asset in return, but ultimately they could lean into the tank down the stretch. I’d be aggressively shopping him if I were Armstrong heading towards the TDL.
 
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