Proposal: Tanev to Toronto/Buffalo/Colorado

HarryLime

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To the people saying tanev is overrated, his track record does the speaking

I mean he doesn't have awards or nomination. Or point totals. But damn that advanced shot supresssion % that has done so many great things for Vancouver.

Leafs add Matthews and run away laughing. The tanev dynasty begins
 

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Would not trade the 2017 1st alone for tanev.

29 year old defensive dman. Or draft a all round defensman and keep the difference.
 

Namikaze Minato

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You can say neither were started by Leafs fans but I'd wager a bet that the majority of the proposals last the OP are front leafs fans and about 15,000 ways to say No from Canucks fans.
Again, who is the problem here?

As always, it's the arrogant canucks fans. There's a number of moronic nucks posters saying it would take one of the leafs big three or their first rounder plus.
For ****ing Tanev, who no matter how much they insist, is not a top defender in the league nor a number 1.

There's idiots on both sides, lets be real. We have two of the biggest, dumbest and loudest fan bases around.
 

Pablo El Perro

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I'd trade Bjugstad plus a first for Tanev. Doesn't work because he's not healthy and I'm pretty sure Canucks fans would find it laughable anyway.
 

Randy Randerson

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There's no reason for Toronto to disrupt their chances of landing another high pick by trading for a player like Tanev this season

Leafs should be sellers, not buyers

Tanev is right around that bubble age to be relevant for the leafs (same age as JVR). I could see him becoming a target for us if we ended up ahead of schedule and in it this year at the deadline with our young core pieces doing the heavy lifting. If that were the case, I think it would be reasonable to start trying to compete right away and Tanev likely has 4-5 prime years left

If that didn't happen, I agree
 

John Eichel da GOAT

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TANEV IS A GREAT 1.5 to 2 tweener......not quite a #1 but plays with a number 1 and makes him better, he is elite in what he does.

#1 Trade

My belief is he is worth Toronto 2017 1st + top prospect + 2018 2nd

Can we afford to take just Picks? No not really, but Toronto pays up gladly

#2 Trade

Reinhart +2018 2nd for Tanev + Virtanen

#3 Trade

Doughty for McKinnon

In each case I ask you does obtaining Tanev make the teams Better?

And to be fair and not kill the trades immediately, is there an add that makes it even?

The OP's autocorrect didn't work. He was actually making a proposal from a Kings POV worth discussing. Don't worry, I fixed it.
 

Gabriel426

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Interesting topic, but unless there is an overpayment, doubt Vancouver will trade Tanev away.
Would be interesting, if Leafs would send Jake for Tanev straight up.
 

Skirbs1011

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In all honesty, I dont think the Avs should be at all interested in Edler. A few years to old for our core and our realistic window at winning a cup(Which is probably 2-3 years away at least).



That said, something around Jost+ for Tanev would be something I personally would get on board with as an Avs fan.

Tanev would be the idea partner for Barrie if he was a Lefty instead of a Righty. But Barrie has played on his off side a bit so far this year and I think he and Tanev would be fantastic together.


It would have to happen next summer though, unless we were able to send Beauchemin back in the trade, as right now we have to protect EJ, Barrie, Zadorov, and Beauch next summer.


Jost is a bit of a scary prospect to trade though. He's been given a lot of comparisons to Toews by some very smart hockey people and that would really suck for the Avs if he did develop into a player of that level. Tanev is great though which is why I would still do it, depending on the + from the Avs(Definitely needs to be one, but I wouldn't be comfortable moving much more).

I have no Idea what that + would be but this is the most intriguing option to me.

The fact that Boeser and Jost are gaining chemistry now can only mean good things for the future together.
 

bossram

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I'd trade Bjugstad plus a first for Tanev. Doesn't work because he's not healthy and I'm pretty sure Canucks fans would find it laughable anyway.

I don't know if I'd be inclined to do it (I think we need higher upside pieces than 2C type or a late 1st), but the value isn't that bad.

I have no Idea what that + would be but this is the most intriguing option to me.

The fact that Boeser and Jost are gaining chemistry now can only mean good things for the future together.

Jost for Tanev is incredibly intriguing. At #5, he was my 2nd choice (after Keller) and this chemistry with Boeser makes it even more interesting.

Not sure how Colorado feels about that though.
 

Cogburn

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Will the return fix the Canucks scoring? Not "help" but fix it. If the answer is anything except yes, as opposed to an explanation, the Canucks would and should decline.
 

4thline

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So a 5-10 draft pick (with the addition of Tanev it would be closer to 10) in a weak draft, a b prospect and a conditional 2nd rounder?

No.

As has been said, it would take an overpayment, this is not even close to an overpayment. We don't want to or need to trade Tanev.

I honestly don't know what you'd expect, Tanev is a great defensive 2 but by no means a franchise player, and I don't think any team is going to move multiple top 10 type assets for a single non-franchise player. That's what burned the Leafs in the Kessel trade, not that the 10 1st was so high, but that there was 2nd top 10 in 11. As soon as a top 10 pick is in the mix the adds will be 2nd round type assets at best IMO

As to want to trade, the whole premise of the OP was Tanev for futures to whoever
 

Stormcrow

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While I agree that Tanev is a good player, not a star, stud number 1 RHD, he isnt worth a kings ransom.

Toronto is not going to sell the farm, especially one of the big 3 for him. They are not at that point yet.

Buffalo is basically the same as Toronto IMO. Neither are contenders.

Colorado....I cant believe you actually typed McKinnon with a straight face..do you hockey??? While I think Colorado would like Tanev they are not going to trade McK to Vancouver...Hell Colorado just wont trade him, barring a few elite players. Tanev is not elite...sorry guys he isnt.

With all the Tanev love and hate I think the only teams teams he gets moved to(* if at all) would be a contender at the TDL if the Nucks are out of it. Assessing his value then depends on the team he is being traded too and their needs at the time.

Sorry Nucks fans but you are NOT getting McKinnon, Tor 1st in 2017 AND a top prospect.
You are NOT getting Reinhart and a 2nd for Tanev+Virtanen(closest in value actually...which is bad).

You would get a 1st(mid rounder) from a playoff contender+B prospect. Yep, that is pretty much it. Teams are not giving you the moon and back for him.
 

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As a leafs fan, I would have no problem if Leafs management gave up a top 3 protected 1st rounder for Tanev.

It would give Vancouver 2 top 10 picks in the 2017 draft and would be a fantastic way to start a rebuild.
 

NOTENOUGHJTCGOALS

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If MacKinnon had been #2 overall people would see him for the streaky one way 50-60 point player he is.

Rich man's Ribeiro.
 

strictlyrandy

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Ok one was drafted 5th overall and the other 32nd. Or are all the scouts IDIOTS ?

Their opinion means nothing? It means a lot more to me than yours does.

Draft position means nothing after the draft.

Bigras is a top prospect for the Avs. Where he was drafted doesn't place negative value on his development.

The scouts didn't place Jamie Benn as a 1st round pick. Guess they were totally right in that he wasn't going to be worth much.
 

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