Proposal: Tanev to Toronto/Buffalo/Colorado

[Scholarships]

These Tanev threads always end well.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

Would something centred around JVR work for Tanev?

Nope, we need Tanev more than a player like JVR, as has been said, it would take an overpayment, we don't make good trading partners.

 

[CM-]

Not interested in Tanev.


Would rather add a 1st to Mackinnon for Edler.

In seriousness would a deal be possible around Jost for Edler? Jost is seemingly building chemistry with Boeser plus we need more top level offensive prospects. Our Defence is looking promising with Juolevi, Stecher, Hutton. And Tanev and Gudbranson being the elder statesman.

Something along the lines of Jost plus an conditional pick (1st if Avs make the Conference finals 2nd if they make the play-offs. 3rd otherwise) for Edler.

 

[Avs44]

In seriousness would a deal be possible around Jost for Edler? Jost is seemingly building chemistry with Boeser plus we need more top level offensive prospects. Our Defence is looking promising with Juolevi, Stecher, Hutton. And Tanev and Gudbranson being the elder statesman.

Something along the lines of Jost plus an conditional pick (1st if Avs make the Conference finals 2nd if they make the play-offs. 3rd otherwise) for Edler.

Avs aren't trying to win now, they're building for next year at the earliest. Have to get Iginla and Stuart off the books, and bringing Zadorov and Rantanen into the lineup this year. Edler's only 30, but he's still not what the Avs need, especially when they are only now starting to build a decent prospect pool.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

In seriousness would a deal be possible around Jost for Edler? Jost is seemingly building chemistry with Boeser plus we need more top level offensive prospects. Our Defence is looking promising with Juolevi, Stecher, Hutton. And Tanev and Gudbranson being the elder statesman.

Something along the lines of Jost plus an conditional pick (1st if Avs make the Conference finals 2nd if they make the play-offs. 3rd otherwise) for Edler.

As a canucks fan I would be all over this, but I'm really high on Jost, even before he was drafted, I really liked the kid.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

Avs aren't trying to win now, they're building for next year at the earliest. Have to get Iginla and Stuart off the books, and bringing Zadorov and Rantanen into the lineup this year. Edler's only 30, but he's still not what the Avs need, especially when they are only now starting to build a decent prospect pool.

Yah I totally agree with this.

 

[CM-]

Avs aren't trying to win now, they're building for next year at the earliest. Have to get Iginla and Stuart off the books, and bringing Zadorov and Rantanen into the lineup this year. Edler's only 30, but he's still not what the Avs need, especially when they are only now starting to build a decent prospect pool.

Fair enough. Was hopeful barring Benning going full rebuild now this deal will probably be available next year for both teams.

 

[4thline]

Definitely in the minority but I'd consider moving the Leafs 1st for Tanev. And the package listed isn't bad with some major tweaks

Leafs 1st 17 (Top 5 Protected, protection carries to 2018, but not 2019) + Prospect not in NHL not named Kapanen or Neilsen +Conditional 2nd 2018 (SjS) (If the leafs make the playoffs in 2017, in the year the pick is transferred, or if the pick has not been transferred by 2018.)

 

[Soups On]

Is this autocorrection or people call Vlasic this way?

Definitely autocorrect. Phones man.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

In all honesty, I dont think the Avs should be at all interested in Edler. A few years to old for our core and our realistic window at winning a cup(Which is probably 2-3 years away at least).



That said, something around Jost+ for Tanev would be something I personally would get on board with as an Avs fan.

Tanev would be the idea partner for Barrie if he was a Lefty instead of a Righty. But Barrie has played on his off side a bit so far this year and I think he and Tanev would be fantastic together.


It would have to happen next summer though, unless we were able to send Beauchemin back in the trade, as right now we have to protect EJ, Barrie, Zadorov, and Beauch next summer.


Jost is a bit of a scary prospect to trade though. He's been given a lot of comparisons to Toews by some very smart hockey people and that would really suck for the Avs if he did develop into a player of that level. Tanev is great though which is why I would still do it, depending on the + from the Avs(Definitely needs to be one, but I wouldn't be comfortable moving much more).

 

[PetterssonSimp]

17 pages of Tanev to Toronto and it still doesn't get through the heads of the Leafs fans heads that Tanev for JVR, Kadri and so on isn't happening. Why keep posting? Are you trying to up your post count?
The other proposals are about as bad as the ones I mentioned from the other main page Tanev thread.

But I guess when you're willing to throw so much **** at the wall, something will stick

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

17 pages of Tanev to Toronto and it still doesn't get through the heads of the Leafs fans heads that Tanev for JVR, Kadri and so on isn't happening. Why keep posting? Are you trying to up your post count?
The other proposals are about as bad as the ones I mentioned from the other main page Tanev thread.

But I guess when you're willing to throw so much **** at the wall, something will stick

Neither Tanev to Toronto thread was made by a Leafs fan. We don't want the guy for what it would cost. Quit making threads and we'll stop responding.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

Ah, Tanev. The curse of the low-offense star defensive defenseman. One of the least enticing players from a fan perspective, yet hugely valuable in terms of on-ice contribution. He doesn't even throw bone crushing hits and he looks like a computer science professor, so there's that element of marketability out the window too.

He's not a player you're ever going to be able to properly valuate. None of that means the OP's proposals are good...the three teams included do not need a Tanev at this point in their existence, and while high quality RHD defensemen are a sellers market, so too are 1st round picks or stud <24 prospects. It's a bunch of super-quality for super-quality wish fulfillment nonsense involving bad trading partners.

Really though, stop slandering poor Chris Tanev. The dude is really good at ice hockey. If he was ever made available for any reason he's the kind of player a legit cup contender should empty their prospect bank for.

 

[PetterssonSimp]

Neither Tanev to Toronto thread was made by a Leafs fan. We don't want the guy for what it would cost. Quit making threads and we'll stop responding.

You can say neither were started by Leafs fans but I'd wager a bet that the majority of the proposals last the OP are front leafs fans and about 15,000 ways to say No from Canucks fans.
Again, who is the problem here?

 

[Randy Randerson]

17 pages of Tanev to Toronto and it still doesn't get through the heads of the Leafs fans heads that Tanev for JVR, Kadri and so on isn't happening. Why keep posting? Are you trying to up your post count?
The other proposals are about as bad as the ones I mentioned from the other main page Tanev thread.

But I guess when you're willing to throw so much **** at the wall, something will stick

you made the same criticism of one of my posts in the Tanev to Toronto thread in response to an offer of JVR/Kadri+Kapanen+Our 1st rounder, and your own fans acknowledged that it was a good offer and shut you down.

If you don't want to participate in trade speculations, why do you come to trade forums?

Post #331-333: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2140413&page=14

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

Definitely in the minority but I'd consider moving the Leafs 1st for Tanev. And the package listed isn't bad with some major tweaks

Leafs 1st 17 (Top 5 Protected, protection carries to 2018, but not 2019) + Prospect not in NHL not named Kapanen or Neilsen +Conditional 2nd 2018 (SjS) (If the leafs make the playoffs in 2017, in the year the pick is transferred, or if the pick has not been transferred by 2018.)

So a 5-10 draft pick (with the addition of Tanev it would be closer to 10) in a weak draft, a b prospect and a conditional 2nd rounder?

No.

As has been said, it would take an overpayment, this is not even close to an overpayment. We don't want to or need to trade Tanev.

 

[Makar Goes Fast]

op on dat good good

 

[The Abusement Park]

Tanev Horvat and Demko wont get you MacKinnon?

You mean there is nothing Vancouver WOULD package to get MacKinnon.

The Avs have no need for Demko to be fair. I still don't think that there's much Vancouver could offer to make me give up Mack.

 

[Aeros026]

Thanks for being worse than the OP, that's a breath of fresh air.

Absolutely not to the OP. There is no player on the Canucks that can return MacKinnon (how do people still spell his name wrong?)

Tanev is a good player, but he is not worth a #1 center.

Maybe a good roster player (like a Soderberg) and an unprotected first?

A team's best player or their top prospect? Nope.

I thought MacKinnon was worth more than Tanev that's why I added Juolevi and Bigras thinking Juolevi had more value... I really like Bigras but I think Juolevi has a way higher ceiling...

 

[Makar Goes Fast]

I thought MacKinnon was worth more than Tanev that's why I added Juolevi and Bigras thinking Juolevi had more value... I really like Bigras but I think Juolevi has a way higher ceiling...

i would also suggest you know nothing about Bigras.

 

[Avs44]

i would also suggest you know nothing about Bigras.

I would take Juolevi over Bigras right now rather comfortably. The value in the proposal, of course, is still terrible.

 

[Makar Goes Fast]

I would take Juolevi over Bigras right now rather comfortably. The value in the proposal, of course, is still terrible.

yeah... but i mean its not even close to bringing the value, bigras would have to have extreme negative value.

 

[Neutrinos]

There's no reason for Toronto to disrupt their chances of landing another high pick by trading for a player like Tanev this season

Leafs should be sellers, not buyers

 

[Seventy7]

I cant see the Canucks trading Tanev at least until they lose another 10 in a row, AND Stecher looks really good beside Edler for a solid stretch.

Thats the point I think they consider a move for future pieces, but there would HAVE to be an under 22 year old potential top line forward, specifically a LW or C coming back.

I dont think the Leafs trade their 1st. They know that should be yet another valuable piece to the rebuild... But I guess Tanev isnt exactly old and paired awfully nicely with Reilly and the WHCs...

Buffalo could be another partner. If the Canucks wanted Reinhart, Van would likely need to part with Demko as well.


At the end of the day, defence men are very valuable, and you dont move good ones with good contracts unless someone overpays for them.

Cant see Benning shopping him, but I'm sure he'll listen if someone calls.

 

[Drew311]

Tanev is a solid defenseman but he doesn't have the offensive upside to return top assets like the OP is mentioning. Plus the days of Leafs giving away 1st round picks like candy on halloween are over.