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GDT: Sweden (6) vs. Denmark (1) • Group A • Dec. 26

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Ola said:
Yeah, definitely, but its also important to not that he isn't a freak of nature in terms of raw talent. Like he isn't a 18 y/o Ilya Kovalchuk on D or something like that. Never will be.

I am not 100% sure how his game will develop in the coming years thanks to it.

He is a special player, no doubt. Best young Swedish D I have seen next to Vic Hedman. Better than OEL, Adam Larsson and co. But "how" good can he become? Down the line and before his draft year? He isn't the type who will pwn the opponents with his raw talent. How far can smarts and very very functional raw talent get you? How much can he develop physically?
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He has tremendous skill. Watch his puck skills. Defenseman in the NHL don't have the puck handling that he has. I can't think of a single defenseman in the league, maybe Erik Karlsson, who has that type of control of the puck, its like a mini Patty Kane with handling the puck, but he plays defense. It allows him to keep control of the puck longer and back up defenders without blowing by them, but he can also out-skill them and go by them.
 
Pavel Buchnevich said:
Patrik Laine was the best player last year.
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And your point is? The kid has looked good today but he is playing every 10 shifts or so right now against a team that Sweden is expected to blow out of the water.

If he looks like a stud against Finland/Russia/Canada/USA when and if he plays them then you can maybe talk about it. In the mean time saying he is the best player in the tournament after a 2 point performance against a "weak" team is not remotely close enough of a performance to even be in the conversation of best player in the tournament


Within this game alone I would say Nylander, Sandstrom and eriksson ek were all better than him. Its no knock on the kid, there is a chance he becomes the best player from this tournament but right now he isnt even the best payer on his team let alone the whole tournament
 
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Lias Andersson really doesn't look like he belongs
 
Interview with dahlin in swedish soon if theres any american journalists in this thread wanting translation you better have swish
 
Zaddy Zads said:
Hm? Just go on tv4play.se choose "Kanaler" choose "TV12" and there it is. Works for me.
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Damn it all to hell.. Makes perfect sense ??? I pay for TV4 play but have to switch to tv12.. ****ing TV4. On livestreams they have the cmore link
 
Pavel Buchnevich said:
He has tremendous skill. Watch his puck skills. Defenseman in the NHL don't have the puck handling that he has. I can't think of a single defenseman in the league, maybe Erik Karlsson, who has that type of control of the puck, its like a mini Patty Kane with handling the puck, but he plays defense. It allows him to keep control of the puck longer and back up defenders without blowing by them, but he can also out-skill them and go by them.
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As an aside, I think this is the new generation of star NHL defensemen; they all have excellent puck skills. Liljegren, Dahlin, Merkley, etc are all excellent puck carriers. Kids who would have been very skilled wingers are learning defense instead, seems like.
 
That was a pretty entertaining game. All the players you would want to see stand out, did. This is the game that put Dahlin on the radar for thousands of Canadians.
 
EK47 said:
Lias Andersson really doesn't look like he belongs
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I don't agree. I don't think he had a great game, but he's clearly trying very hard to play defensively. He spends almost all of his shifts as the 3rd man in, playing high in the slot. He needs to be more offensively assertive, but it's tough when your wingers are as aggressive as his are. They spend almost all their time below the goal line.

I mean, I don't think all his SHL points this year are a coincidence. He's a good player, and can contribute offensively. This might be a coaching decision.

Besides, I thought Pettersson was pretty quiet, too. Grundstrom was doing most of the work there today.
 
Stupid ticket prices and Montreal not being a hockey city but a one club city= 95% empty seats.
 
France Nielsen said:
I don't agree. I don't think he had a great game, but he's clearly trying very hard to play defensively. He spends almost all of his shifts as the 3rd man in, playing high in the slot. He needs to be more offensively assertive, but it's tough when your wingers are as aggressive as his are. They spend almost all their time below the goal line.

I mean, I don't think all his SHL points this year are a coincidence. He's a good player, and can contribute offensively. This might be a coaching decision.

Besides, I thought Pettersson was pretty quiet, too. Grundstrom was doing most of the work there today.
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Yeah that was my main issue he was too passive and when you're relied upon to provide offense you as you said need to be more assertive. Plus I said he doesn't look like he belongs this is all based on this game alone so yeah I'm basically just saying he needs to be better.
 
Dosing said:
Interview with dahlin in swedish soon if theres any american journalists in this thread wanting translation you better have swish
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I believe Swish only exists in Sweden, so don't have any big hopes that people will get that reference ;)
 
EK47 said:
Yeah that was my main issue he was too passive and when you're relied upon to provide offense you as you said need to be more assertive. Plus I said he doesn't look like he belongs this is all based on this game alone so yeah I'm basically just saying he needs to be better.
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He reminded me of Riley Sheahan for Detroit. Talented guy, good hockey sense, but just too safe. He could do a lot more if he gambled a little bit.
 
I thought Pettersson was a little underwhelming too, clearly very skilled and competitive but didn't accomplish a whole lot.

That said all the 17yo's should get a break for not being amazing. Remember Nathan MacKinnon accomplished nothing in this tournament. Turned out okay.
 
At the game.

3 things stood out.

3) Fans from Vasteras are Malmo are cool!
2) RASMUS DAHLIN is going to be unbelievable.
1) Swedish Women are gorgeous.

And side note, number 7 Denmark Dman was solid.
 
Hopefully Dahlin will get more ice-time now, he has been great in this 2 games, but I want to see him get tested more. But with that said, when he did actually play I think he was the best player on the ice.

Hedman? I though he look glumpsy and didnt use his size enough when he was young, and in wjc he was pretty bad. Hedman was to me always a project, he had some really good raw talent, but he was a mess on the ice. He still feels bit glumpsy but overall he is a force and one of the best D in the league. Dahlin is far more ready, but hopefully he hasnt hit his prime already.;)

Worse player in sweden? Andersson, G Carlsson and Lööke. I expected a lot more from Andersson, wasnt that great against russia either. Lööke had a good run at the end but overall it was meh, but I can not say I am disapoited since I didnt expected anything more. G Carlsson I didnt get why he was drafted so high, above Andersson and Kylington, and I still do not. I do not even think he is that good defensivly, I think he is below average, I think he shows flashes off good offense but not enough. I want Dahlin to replace him in the lineup.

Kylington was pretty good.

The PP have to become a lot better, it is a mess.
 
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