LeafChief
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How does Boqvist (defenceman) not make this team? Are the 5 and 6 D better than him currently or were they taken over him because Liljegren, Dahlin and Brannstrom are already all offensive D?
WJC: Sweden 2018 Roster Talk
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Jason MacIsaac
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You are really underestimating Boqvist's ability to drive a line. He was one of Sweden's more dangerous players in the summer playing center. I'm just not confident in Boqvist's ability to finish so I hope Lias is a good finisher.
Jason MacIsaac
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If you take PP ability out of the equation they probably are. Boqvist was never going to get PP time with the top 3 defensmen as is.
It's not really about Boqvist not being a good support player for Lias. It's more that seing Lindström in the top 6 made me see red.
I don't have anything against Lindström it's just that he is nowhere near a top6 player and is never going to be.
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Jason MacIsaac
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Well I would personally have Boqvist at center but that is just me. I know very little about Lindstrom.
Basically a junior version of Marcus Krüger. But, without the talk of offensive upside that there was with Krüger, which would be absolutely great if he was centering the fourth line, but he's not.
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Is there anything quasi-official as to what the top PP will look like? Should we assume Nylander-Pettersson-Andersson-Dahlin-Liljegren, or will they go with Brannstrom instead of Liljegren, or with a 4th forward (like I believe they did last year)? Who would that 4th forward be?
They ran 4 forwards/ 1 D in their game the other night (with Dahlin on the first unit and Liljegren on the second). That was without Andersson and Nylander in the lineup, so if you add those two I don't think there is any way they would go to 2D on each unit (originally I felt they would).
Pretty sure that leaves Brannstrom out, unless one of Dahlin or Liljegren faces injuries or plays themself off.
Based on their play so far this season it is also reasonable to take Dahlin and Liljegren over Brannstrom:
This season:
Liljegren: 0.53 PPG in 17 games in the AHL.
Dahlin: 0.42 PPG in 26 games in the SHL.
Brannstrom: 0.22 PPG in 27 games in the SHL.
1: Elvenes-L Lindstrom-Zetterlund-Dahlin-Pettersson
2: Lundestrom-Karlstrom-J Boqvist-Olofsson-Liljegren
2: Lundestrom-Karlstrom-J Boqvist-Olofsson-Liljegren
They're really going all in on this Lindstrom thing, aren't they? What's the deal with that?
And with Elvenes cut and presumably Andersson and Nylander on the top PP, does that mean Zetterlund gets bumped down to the 2nd PP, or will it be Lindstrom (or even Andersson, which would be insane, but who knows)? I guess one of those guys will take Olofsson's 2nd PP spot.
VictorLustig
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On the national teams they always have Zetterlund taking one-timers from the half wall, which is weird since I don't think he's ever scored on one. Lundeström is another guy who should not be on the PP, at no level has he been productive. I don't think that forward group is strong enough to keep Brännström off the PP.
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VictorLustig
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Brännström has already proven to be very good on the PP. Keep in mind that Brännström doesn't get the offensive minutes that Liljegren gets with the Marlies. I do like Liljegren better on the PP but Brännström has to be on one of the units.
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TheGoldenJet
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You've got to think that Brannstrom's poor season is workin against him.
That said, if one of the units has 2D on it, there may be room for Brannstrom too.
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3rd line with Davidsson and Söderlund very limited pp opportunities but likely to still be heavily relied upon for secondary scoring and just making life a misery for the opponents with all that speed. It may not sound like much but they are an integral part of team Swedens success.
I don't make the rules, and I thought that Sweden would probably run 3-2 so it wouldn't be an issue. But if if Sweden continues to run 4-1, I am doubtful that Brannstrom will start on one of the two units.
1. Dahlin - because he is Dahlin.
2. Liljegren - because he was better at the summer showcase (although Brannstrom and Dahlin both had issues with illness/injury, but performance matters), has put up better numbers this year, has far more experience on NA ice, and was on one of the two units (with Dahlin on the other one) in the game against the US.
If I was the coach, I wouldn't mind at all running Dahlin and Liljegren as the two D and reminding them that they don't bring it Brannstrom is there to replace them.
Things could change, and undoubtedly, Brannstrom will see some PP time during the tournament, but I think he starts as the odd man out. Next year I think that Brannstrom will be back. I am almost positive that Dahlin will not (NHL), and I think there is a decent chance this is Liljegren's only U20-WJC.
TheGoldenJet
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I disagree. He has shown some improvements but has not progressed as much as I would like. He is an offensive D and his numbers are nothing to write home about. He has also yet to score a goal in the SHL three months into the season, which is a concern if you want him to run a PP.
He's a good player but should be a clear third in the hierarchy atm.
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