Value of: Swayman

[HuGort]

Swayman what will he get in RFA? Can Bruins match? A young goalie like that, Habs looking for goalie

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[TheKrebsCycle]

Cost would be very high . Swayman is the real deal . I think they match anything reasonable and trade one of the goalies at a later point

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Will be expensive to acquire and sign. Huge pass from this hab fan.

 

[theVladiator]

Being 2nd in platoon behind Ullmark, and Ulmark performing better will help Bruins keep Swayman's salary down. I think they can sign him to ~3M bridge, or 5-6M long term. No reasons to trade him, regardless of the needs of other NHL teams.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Don’t think a team can sign him away. Only thing that might work is offering a young top 6 center. Even that is dependent on what Bergeron and Krejci do.

 

[randywoodsghost]

As is the Bruins have about $5 million to sign 5 forwards and Swayman next year.

They will be competing with about a dozen other teams including the Oilers and Leafs to dump their overpaid players on a handful of teams.

Good luck Sweeney.

 

[BB88]

Cost would be very high . Swayman is the real deal . I think they match anything reasonable and trade one of the goalies at a later point

If they get real offers they should trade one this summer.

Keeping both will mean losing multiple quality skaters

 

[McGarnagle]

Given the cap crunch and short & long term outlook for the Bruins, unless someone offers an offer sheet that will net us a first+, I think the Bruins need to match anything and it's better asset management to trade Ullmark who has more immediate value on the market.

The next couple years for the Bruins will be navigating the cap mess they're in before some contracts and penalties expire giving them the freedom to build back up around Pasta, Lindholm, and McAvoy. At that point, Ullmark's contract would be over while Swayman would still be under team control. So I'd say retain what you have in hand and get a return on something expiring.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Don’t think a team can sign him away. Only thing that might work is offering a young top 6 center. Even that is dependent on what Bergeron and Krejci do.

He is offer sheet eligible

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

If they get real offers they should trade one this summer.

Keeping both will mean losing multiple quality skaters

What’s a real offer though ? 1 st plus good prospect?

 

[I am Bettman]

What’s a real offer though ? 1 st plus good prospect?

Probably along the lines of Swayman and Grzelcyk for a cost controlled top six center or a prospect who projects to be a top six center. A pick would probably be needed also if the player is a prospect.

 

[Mersss]

Habs offer a 1 years 4.2M$ to him
Comp would be a 2nd pick in 2024, and Obv Bruins would match that, but they's need to get rid of a lot of salary and can"t trade Sway for the whole year, meaning he'd have arb right in 2024 and likelly gets a lot more.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

No matter how the playoffs go, Bruins should sign Swayman and deal Ullmark at the peak of his value

 

[VaporTrail]

If any team is really looking for a goalie I could see Swayman getting offer-sheeted...With that 4 million cap penalty coming next year for Boston, I think it would be tough for them to match.

 

[dirtydanglez]

something around pinto

 

[Prairie Habs]

Habs offer a 1 years 4.2M$ to him
Comp would be a 2nd pick in 2024, and Obv Bruins would match that, but they's need to get rid of a lot of salary and can"t trade Sway for the whole year, meaning he'd have arb right in 2024 and likelly gets a lot more.

We don't have our 2024 2nd

 

[McSuper]

Habs offer a 1 years 4.2M$ to him
Comp would be a 2nd pick in 2024, and Obv Bruins would match that, but they's need to get rid of a lot of salary and can"t trade Sway for the whole year, meaning he'd have arb right in 2024 and likelly gets a lot more.

You don't have your 2nd in 2024. Last time you tried an offer sheet it never went very well. I doubt your GM would even do it.

 

[Brodeur]

Seemed like the early impression was that the 2024 Draft was average/below average so perhaps teams might be willing to dangle a first. Something like Colorado giving up a 2012 1st for Semyon Varlamov or San Jose giving up a 2016 1st for Martin Jones.

The offer sheet route would be predicated on whether Swayman was willing to sign which isn't a given. As pointed out, teams need to have their own 2024 picks for compensation.

Missing 2024 1st: Florida*, New Jersey*, NY Rangers*, Ottawa*, Tampa*

Missing 2024 2nd: Colorado, Florida, Montreal, New Jersey, Philadelphia, Tampa Bay, Vancouver, Washington, Winnipeg

Missing 2024 3rd: Colorado, Edmonton, Minnesota, NY Islanders, NY Rangers, Ottawa, Pittsburgh, San Jose, Toronto, Vegas,

The RFA scale for this past season:

$2,100,742 - 4,201,488: 2nd round pick
$4.201,488 - 6,302,230: 1st + 3rd round picks

Most teams already have an entrenched starter (or somebody they're paying like a starter). Ball park duos:

ANA: Gibson | Dostal?
CGY: Markstrom | Vladar | Wolf
EDM: Skinner | Campbell
LAK: Copley | Petersen?
SEA: Grubauer | Driedger
SJS: tbd | Kahkonen
VAN: Demko | Martin
VGK: Lehner* | Thompson | tbd

ARZ: Vejmelka | Ingram | Prosvetov
CHI: Mrazek | tbd
COL: Georgiev | Francouz
DAL: Oettinger | Wedgewood
MIN: Gustavsson | Fleury
NSH: Saros | Lankinen
STL: Binnington | Hofer
WPG: Hellebucyk | tbd

BOS: Ullmark | Swayman
BUF: Levi | Comrie | Luukkonen
DET: Husso | tbd
FLO: Bobrovsky | Knight
MON: Price* | Allen | Montembeault
OTT: tbd | Forsberg
TBL: Vasilevskiy | tbd
TOR: Samsonov | Murray

CAR: tbd | Kochetkov
CLB: Merzlikins | Tarasov
NJD: Vanecek | Schmid | Blackwood
NYI: Sorokin | tbd
NYR: Shesterkin | tbd
PHI: Hart | Sandstrom*
PIT: tbd | DeSmith
WSH: Kuemper | Lindgren

Only a handful of teams will be in the market for a #1 this offseason. LA could re-sign Korpisalo. San Jose and Chicago probably wouldn't want to give up a big asset for a Swayman. Ottawa and Pittsburgh might rather try the UFA scrap heap.

 

[Skolman]

As is the Bruins have about $5 million to sign 5 forwards and Swayman next year.

They will be competing with about a dozen other teams including the Oilers and Leafs to dump their overpaid players on a handful of teams.

Good luck Sweeney.

Who are the overpaid players that the Oilers will be trying to dump?

Campbell obviously, but that's not going to happen as there's 4 years left on that deal.

I don’t believe you can consider any player overpaid that realistically could get moved on that team

 

[HuGort]

Habs offer a 1 years 4.2M$ to him
Comp would be a 2nd pick in 2024, and Obv Bruins would match that, but they's need to get rid of a lot of salary and can"t trade Sway for the whole year, meaning he'd have arb right in 2024 and likelly gets a lot more.

Doubt 4 gets it done. I would offer 6 or so. Koktaniemi type offer. Re-sign long term with us later.

Swayman should be worth the first round pick. We have bunch of extra first so can spare one.

 

[Qwijibo]

Doubt 4 gets it done. I would offer 6 or so. Koktaniemi type offer. Re-sign long term with us later.

Swayman should be worth the first round pick. We have bunch of extra first so can spare one.

It would be Montreal’s own first that would be compensation. Likely a top 10 pick or better. That’s too much for a goalie.

 

[HuGort]

It would be Montreal’s own first that would be compensation. Likely a top 10 pick or better. That’s too much for a goalie.

If Habs move up in lottery or trade for Dubois. They should be mid-league.

 

[majormajor]

I think Boston might trade Swayman to load up for another run next year.

If the Jets sell off Helle and all, then I could see a half retained Dubois going to Boston for Swayman.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

I think Boston might trade Swayman to load up for another run next year.

If the Jets sell off Helle and all, then I could see a half retained Dubois going to Boston for Swayman.

Bruins have no need for another LW with Pastrnak and Debrusk.

Plus no room to take back any salary if Swayman is getting dealt

 

[Qwijibo]

If Habs move up in lottery or trade for Dubois. They should be mid-league.

Those are some massive ifs