Summer 2025: Rantanen or Marner

[BleedWell]

There were 4 big names becoming UFAs next summer. Edmonton and the Rangers already signed their guys.

Two remains: Mikko Rantanen and Mitch Marner.

If you had the cap space next summer which player would you sign for your team?

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[elmaco]

Rantanen ainec

 

[Mulletman]

Marner. He can play elite hockey without being carried by MacKinnon and Makar!

 

[olli]

Rantanen should be an obvious answer for almost every team. His numbers get boosted from playing with Mack but he’s proven to raise his game in the playoffs unlike Marner.

 

[Jixer19]

Marner. He can play elite hockey without being carried by MacKinnon and Makar!

Wait, I thought MacK was carried by Rants and Makar? Or wait, was it Makar is carried by MacK and Rants? Can never keep up with who carries who.

To the question though, Rants (just cause of playoffs), maybe this is the year Marner shows he can excel there also, shall see

 

[Connor McConnor]

Both players have proven they can run the show when the star on the team is injured so this just comes down to the player and Rants is just more suited for playoff success

 

[gritdash60]

A player who has 2 100+ point seasons and great playoff performances, and 3 hatricks this year, vs a dude who has some points.

What a conundrum, i cant vote.

 

[dirtydanglez]

this is going to be rantanen in a landslide.

 

[Hollowmoon]

Rantanen.

 

[HeadLiceHatty]

This is gonna get ugly. Marner is an elite winger though, great stripper of the puck too

 

[missionAvs]

Rants can't skate properly but this is still him clearly IMO.

 

[Fatass]

Marner plays in more situations. Imo he’s Much better defensively, including PK. More a well rounded game.

 

[MoreMogilny]

A player who has 2 100+ point seasons and great playoff performances, and 3 hatricks this year, vs a dude who has some points.

What a conundrum, i cant vote.

Lol what a bizarre way to phrase your preference “3 hat tricks this year” like that has ever been a way people have measured players against each other

“A dude that has some points” is an intentionally misleading way of describing Marner

Marner has seasons of 94, 97, and 99 points.

And his “some points” equals out to 677 points in 604 games. Vs Rantanen’s 659 in 604. Marner averages 92 points/82 games vs Rantanen’s 89 points/82 games. So those “some points” are actually more than Rantanen’s. I’ll give him the edge in hat tricks.

Two superstar wingers. I would give the edge to Rantanen due to his playoff performance as Marner can’t really boast here. Even if the Avs have been loaded, Rantanen has demonstrated on numerous runs that he can produce significantly. If teams were swapped it would be difficult to say Marner could do the same thing.

 

[Voodoo Child]

A player who has 2 100+ point seasons and great playoff performances, and 3 hatricks this year, vs a dude who has some points.

What a conundrum, i cant vote.

Player on .650 team that's had a ton of injuries including to its best player vs. player on .570 team, no injuries and league leading scorer and highest scoring D.

The answer to this is Rantanen but still, buddy...

 

[10YearsHaveGotBehind]

Player on .650 team that's had a ton of injuries including to its best player vs. player on .570 team, no injuries and league leading scorer and highest scoring D.

The answer to this is Rantanen but still, buddy...

Colorado has had plenty of injuries.

 

[Fledgemyhedge]

Player on .650 team that's had a ton of injuries including to its best player vs. player on .570 team, no injuries and league leading scorer and highest scoring D.

The answer to this is Rantanen but still, buddy...

your rebuttal is posting purely team stats?

 

[JoeSakic13]

I expected this to be closer in the vote simply because of how many Leafs fans are on here.

However yes, it is Rantanen by a wide margin.

 

[Connor McConnor]

I expected this to be closer in the vote simply because of how many Leafs fans are on here.

However yes, it is Rantanen by a wide margin.

Most Leaf fans are voting Rants because of their frustrations with Marner's playoff performances. If this was purely a regular season vote, Marner is probably the clear winner.

 

[Hollowmoon]

"If this was purely a regular season vote, Marner is probably the clear winner."

Whaaaat?

Last 2 full regular season:
Rantanen 97G + 112A
Marner 56G + 128A

 

[gritdash60]

Player on .650 team that's had a ton of injuries including to its best player vs. player on .570 team, no injuries and league leading scorer and highest scoring D.

The answer to this is Rantanen but still, buddy...

65% team against a 57% team is the reason for the scoring difference? Is that what you really think?

 

[Voodoo Child]

65% team against a 57% team is the reason for the scoring difference? Is that what you really think?

The season is early, but 65 is 14% more than 57.

Multiple anything - your height, your weight, your income, by 1.14.

It's not a big difference?

 

[ijuka]

Player on .650 team that's had a ton of injuries including to its best player vs. player on .570 team, no injuries and league leading scorer and highest scoring D.

The answer to this is Rantanen but still, buddy...

Avs "no injuries" just missing their captain for the third season.

The season is early, but 65 is 14% more than 57.

Multiple anything - your height, your weight, your income, by 1.14.

Addition and multiplication cannot be applied to percentages directly like this.

Height, weight, income are linear scalars. Percentage is a transformed scalar. Transform it back first before comparing.

 

[LOFIN]

There's one thing going for Marner over Rantanen this summer, and it's that I think his game might end up ageing better. Rantanen is super talented, but I can see the physical drop off affecting him more.

One could argue that Marner plays PK, while Rantanen doesn't. Fair, but I'm of the mind that you can find plenty of good middle/bottom-6 players to do that for you. I'd rather have my superstars more fresh for 5v5 and PP, and not have them do PK. But, this is a very divisive topic in the league. Teams have different philosophies. And if Marner is that much better than all of your other forwards on the PK, you do what you gotta do.

Outside of that, it's not really a close debate. Rantanen scores more goals, he scores more points overall, he has a more physical game with a bit of a mean streak when he happens to be on that mood, and his playoff pedigree speaks for itself.

All of that said, if both players are going to stay with their respective teams, Marner will get paid more once again.

Avs "no injuries" just missing their captain for the third season.

After like the first week of the season, the Avs were missing 6 of their top-9 forwards. Yes, the most important players MacKinnon and Rantanen were healthy, but they basically had to play with 4th liners while the bottom-6 was filled with AHL players. The injury situation with forwards was actually more severe with Colorado than it was with Toronto.

 

[hamzarocks]

Avs "no injuries" just missing their captain for the third season.

Avs have been very injured

Drouin 5 games only played

Lehkonen has missed a bunch

Coke-man missed a lot (that was his fault though)

Colton has only played 12 or so games

Believe Manson/Toews had injuries at periods as well.

Both leafs and Avs have had injuries thsi year

 

[Pete Taylor]

Call me crazy but I'd take Mitch as I think he is going to have a longer period of success. Rantanen's skating is a little scary, and I think a lower- body injury could really derail his career. Reminds me of Cheechoo with way better hands.

I know that the playoff scoring differs, but my team is just trying to get to the dance, and I think Mitch could drive a line a little better, while being more responsible defensively.