Value of: Strome to Pittsburgh

Empoleon8771

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What would it take to get Ryan Strome in Pittsburgh? He seems like a guy who needs to be playing center to be at his maximum effectiveness and the Pens have a hole long term at 3C that he can slide into. Hagelin-Strome-Sprong seems like it would be an extremely effective offensive 3rd line for next year.
 

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Looking at it logically, I don't see how that makes sense for the Islanders with the expansion draft. They'd just lose either Maatta or de Hann to Vegas. I was thinking something around Sprong or Sheary for Strome, but I don't know who would need to add or how much.
 

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Keep Strome, fire Cappy & Snow > keep Strome and Josh Bailey him for the next 6 years > trade Strome for a meh return > trade Strome to a conference rival for a meh return
 

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Pretty much, CodeE. Also, I wouldn't be OPPOSED to Maatta, assuming he's regained his form, because he can take the spot of whoever gets claimed (or he himself gets claimed).

That being said, I'd rather trade Cappy and Snow.
 

Sidney the Kidney

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I don't think Pittsburgh has available what the Isles would want for Strome (ie. a legitimate top six upgrade), and I don't think Strome is proven enough to pay the price the Islanders would likely ask.

He could be a nice replacement for Bonino assuming the Pens let Bones walk or he prices himself out of town, however. It's just a case of having the available (key word available) assets to acquire him.
 

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I don't think Pittsburgh has available what the Isles would want for Strome (ie. a legitimate top six upgrade), and I don't think Strome is proven enough to pay the price the Islanders would likely ask.

He could be a nice replacement for Bonino assuming the Pens let Bones walk or he prices himself out of town, however. It's just a case of having the available (key word available) assets to acquire him.

Well let's see, Strome did 28pts in 71GP last year and has 6pts in 17GP for a pace of 28pts in 71GP.

Now...aside from name and hype and hometown fans higher valuing of their own players, I do believe the Penguins can furnish a player with better stats than that.

Sheary for example: 9pts in 15 GP for a pace of 50pts.

Perhaps a Bonino-Strome swap? Would be risky for the Penguins but if Bonino wants too much for next year, I'd consider a swap.
 

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Well let's see, Strome did 28pts in 71GP last year and has 6pts in 17GP for a pace of 28pts in 71GP.

Now...aside from name and hype and hometown fans higher valuing of their own players, I do believe the Penguins can furnish a player with better stats than that.

Sheary for example: 9pts in 15 GP for a pace of 50pts.

I don't think you can look at it purely by points to determine who is better. Sheary's looked good this year, for certain, but he's also playing every game next to the best player in hockey. Strome hasn't had that luxury.

I also think it's a confidence thing. Strome's numbers are a reflection of his lack of confidence in his game. When Strome's at his best, he's better than Sheary. I think you could see a Kyle Turris-like transformation if he went somewhere else and regained that confidence.

Add to that that Snow probably sees the situation the exact same way as I outlined it above -- he'll want a return that's closer to the 50-point Strome from two years ago, rather than a return that reflects the current 28-point Strome.

Perhaps a Bonino-Strome swap? Would be risky for the Penguins but if Bonino wants too much for next year, I'd consider a swap.

I don't know why the Isles would do that deal.
 

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The division rivalry puts a snag in it. I'd hate to give up on Strome. I think he has a lot of potential but he's being criminally mishandled. He should be playing center and center only. Jack capuono and the isles have managed to destroy such high potential players and it's sad.
 

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Isles should be looking to dump salary in a guy like Kulemin and direct it towards a legit top 6 forward for JT. Not giving up on one of their younger skill guys.

If the Pens can clear salary of their own in MAF or Kunitz, I'd take NK off your hands for a late pick.
 

m302291

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Both Sprong and Sheary have more value than Strome, and I would rather have them any day of the week.

I'm not trying to trash Strome or the Isles, but we have zero need for acquiring Strome.

I wouldn't even want to give up Pouliot.

Unless the Isles are having a fire sale and we can get Strome for a 2nd or if for some reason they want Bonino or Scott Wilson, (another offensive, left handed center converted to wing, with little to offer other than bottom 6 scoring depth)

then I don't pay attention to Strome being on the market.
 

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I would do Bonino for Strome so fast, but no idea why the Isles would.

Imagine the HSK line. :popcorn:
 

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Looking at it logically, I don't see how that makes sense for the Islanders with the expansion draft. They'd just lose either Maatta or de Hann to Vegas. I was thinking something around Sprong or Sheary for Strome, but I don't know who would need to add or how much.

Wut!?

You just said you wanted Strome to center Sprong and Hags.... so you offer Sprong for Strome? **** is wrong with you?
 

seabass45

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Strome isn't getting traded within the division. But we need RWs, so the ask would prob be Strome and a big plus for Hornqvist. Guessing Pens fans say "lol wtf" to that.
 

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Strome isn't getting traded within the division. But we need RWs, so the ask would prob be Strome and a big plus for Hornqvist. Guessing Pens fans say "lol wtf" to that.

That's not even fair to propose. NYI and PITT don't matchup well as trade partners in addition to the fact that they are in the same division.

Maybe at the deadline things change, but I don't see the opportunity for a hockey trade.
 

seabass45

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That's not even fair to propose. NYI and PITT don't matchup well as trade partners in addition to the fact that they are in the same division.

Maybe at the deadline things change, but I don't see the opportunity for a hockey trade.

I know. Problem is we trade Strome to a competent team with a competent manager, we'll end up watching him torch us for the next 8-10 years. So if Garth was thinking about this at all (which he probably isn't), he'd probably ask for the moon.
 

Empoleon8771

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Wut!?

You just said you wanted Strome to center Sprong and Hags.... so you offer Sprong for Strome? **** is wrong with you?

I said I wanted him centering Hagelin and Strome, but it may cost Sprong to get him. If it would, I wouldn't have a problem with Hagelin-Strome-Sheary.
 

Felix Unger

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Personally, I think Strome would do much better on a western conference team that plays hockey much more deliberately. I don't think he'd fit very well on the Penguins. I'm not even concerned with the division rival thing - Islanders aren't a rival to anyone right now.
 

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He would definitely be a great fit if we are to let Bonino go after the season. Not sure though the Isles would be interested in dealing him to a rival.
 

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Well let's see, Strome did 28pts in 71GP last year and has 6pts in 17GP for a pace of 28pts in 71GP.

Now...aside from name and hype and hometown fans higher valuing of their own players, I do believe the Penguins can furnish a player with better stats than that.

Sheary for example: 9pts in 15 GP for a pace of 50pts.

Perhaps a Bonino-Strome swap? Would be risky for the Penguins but if Bonino wants too much for next year, I'd consider a swap.

This post is basically saying: Islanders fans overrate strome and i don't think hes good so I will offer someone the islanders dont want to get him. Once he's on the penguins though... I think he can be good.

Look strome isnt developing well right now and thats not secret but he had 51 points in his first full season in the NHL. Point is NYI wont trade him for bonino
 

seabass45

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This post is basically saying: Islanders fans overrate strome and i don't think hes good so I will offer someone the islanders dont want to get him. Once he's on the penguins though... I think he can be good.

Look strome isnt developing well right now and thats not secret but he had 51 points in his first full season in the NHL. Point is NYI wont trade him for bonino

Right. Like I know that Isles fans are doom and gloom with Strome right now (and rightfully so), but there's a good reason to think that some team out there can buy low on him and he becomes a 50+ point center again, with room to grow. And the thought of him becoming that guy again in PITTSBURGH (as a third line center!) is probably delightful for Pens fans and infuriating for Isles fans. I'm not interested in helping Pitt build a dynasty.
 

Strait2thecup

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Right. Like I know that Isles fans are doom and gloom with Strome right now (and rightfully so), but there's a good reason to think that some team out there can buy low on him and he becomes a 50+ point center again, with room to grow. And the thought of him becoming that guy again in PITTSBURGH (as a third line center!) is probably delightful for Pens fans and infuriating for Isles fans. I'm not interested in helping Pitt build a dynasty.

Just love the HF logic with struggling young players. the whole he isnt good but i want him so heres a third round pick or an older bottom 6 player thing is just annoying every time it comes up.
 

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